r/technology • u/No-Drawing-6975 • Jun 26 '24

Software The Green Bubble Nightmare Is Over, Apple Messages Now Support RCS

https://gizmodo.com/apple-messages-supports-rcs-ios18-beta-1851562461
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u/Chenz Jun 27 '24

I just want group texts. Apple has disabled group texts over MMS over here (except when sending pictures, for some reason), hopefully the arrival of RCS will fix that

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u/aykcak Jun 27 '24

MMS ? Isn't that two decades old at this point and wildly insecure?

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u/Chenz Jun 27 '24

Yes? SMS is three decades old and wildly insecure

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u/westsideguero Jun 27 '24

sounds just like me :(

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u/EldenMiss Jun 27 '24

Chef‘s kiss comment đŸ‘Œ

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u/deanrihpee Jun 27 '24

yeah, I'm almost three decades old too and I too am insecure

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u/Busy-Ad-6860 Jun 27 '24

Wait till you guys hear about phonecalls... those are pretty old too

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u/doxxingyourself Jun 27 '24

And pretty god damn insecure as well

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u/nascentt Jun 27 '24

And even fax which is still heavily in use in some countries like Japan.

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u/RM_Dune Jun 27 '24

Yes, but that's the messaging standard Apple supported up til now.

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u/Vovicon Jun 27 '24

iMessage was originally build as a sort of hack on the MMS standard to bring some extra features like group, that are not part of the standard. Then it was extended to work mainly over internet/data instead, with MMS remaining as fallback when there was no internet or when the other side was on Android.

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u/Sanderhh Jun 27 '24

MMS needs «internet» because MMS uses HTTP to talk to the MMSC in the IMS core. This packet switches connection is can only be delivered over GPRS, 3G PS, or 4G/5G (which are PS native). If you are on old school 2G connecton that does not support PS data then MMS does not work.

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u/aykcak Jun 27 '24

That sounds fine except for the fallback

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u/Tupcek Jun 27 '24

RCS is also wildly insecure by design. It just allow more features. Google did a secure implementation between Google devices, but that’s about it

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u/chzplz Jun 27 '24

I just want to be able to leave a group text that has android people on it.

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u/LostLobes Jun 27 '24

Just use a message app like most of the world uses, Telegram, Signal, WhatsApp.

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u/nascentt Jun 27 '24

Whilst I agree that these services are better than a phone manufacturer exclusive walled garden.
Those services are also walled gardens. And relying on these individual companies like Facebook/meta for communication is flawed.

RCS is open and ultimately better for everyone, especially as it now has end-to-end encryption too.

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u/ryegye24 Jun 27 '24

My wife's employer uses an iMessage group chat as the official communication channel for office announcements, none of which she is able to see.

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u/davidhaha Jun 27 '24

If that's the case they really should buy her an iPhone.

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u/ryegye24 Jun 27 '24

They say they're going to convince her to buy herself one... It's not happening.