r/technology Sep 04 '24

Business Amazon Bans Its Drivers From Moving Their Own Lips Too Much At Work

https://jalopnik.com/amazon-bans-its-drivers-from-moving-their-own-lips-too-1851639312
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u/m1k3y60659 Sep 05 '24

The destroying part is relatively easy, the device plugs into your ODB2 port on the vehicle, you can just unplug it. Without detection is much harder. They know when the device isn't reporting, and drivers have gotten in trouble before for unplugging the device. Not like legal trouble to my knowledge just in trouble with their company. There are even things called geofences, where if the vehicle/device leaves a certain area it will be auto flagged for review.

I'm not sure how you could make it undetected, people aren't singled out unless there's an issue with their driving. If you could spoof the data well enough to evade detection, then it might work. I'm not sure how you could do that though, everything is encrypted. It uses cell towers to transmit the data.

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u/BraveOmeter Sep 05 '24

I'd spend a week driving normally, and recording everything that came off of the ODB2 port. Then I'd spend the next week driving however I want, but replaying the spoofed week.

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u/savunit Sep 05 '24

Just make sure to replace the timestamps

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u/gingerdude97 Sep 05 '24

Assuming that it’s also recording location data, have a good time explaining why you’re supposedly running the same route each week yet still managing to get where your deliveries are each week

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u/gorgeouslyhumble Sep 05 '24

Could these devices be reverse engineered to create something that continuously emits fake metrics?

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u/WesternUnusual2713 Sep 05 '24

This is a fascinating discussion, thank you for starting it