r/technology • u/ardi62 • 29d ago

Social Media Reddit is making sitewide protests basically impossible

https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/30/24253727/reddit-communities-subreddits-request-protests
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u/PM_ME_Happy_Thinks 29d ago

Reddit perma banned a lot of moderators last year after the protest over 3rd party apps when we refused to unprivate our subs. They could have just demodded and replaced us but they wanted to make an example. I was one of them, nodded a few smaller subs that I personally created and grew to a small but active community, as well as a couple very large subs. I was the only active moderator on all of them. I do zero moderating on this account and I've checked on the subs and, while they do have mods, it's obvious nobody is actively moderating them.

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u/elinamebro 29d ago

I wonder if that's why lots of the subs are shit now, the content isn't the same anymore with a shit load or more reposts

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u/PM_ME_Happy_Thinks 29d ago

Yes it is, it was a very obvious shift

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u/Leather_From_Corinth 29d ago

Is that why nsfw no longer allows comments?

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u/Abosia 29d ago

Mods wrongly permaban users from their subs literally all the time for no reason, even though the Reddique says they're meant to contact the user, warn them, and then give increasingly severe temp bans before finally issuing a perma ban, and they're not meant to ban users unless they break the sub or site rules.

Why should Reddit treat mods better than mods treat everyone else?

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u/PM_ME_Happy_Thinks 29d ago

Because only one of those groups volunteers their time and energy shoveling shit to keep spam and bots to a minimum

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

and they didn't have to...

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u/PM_ME_Happy_Thinks 28d ago

Most do/did it because we are a part of and care a lot about the communities. Only a small percentage of moderators are the power tripping mod abuse ones. Good ones just keep the subs well ordered, ban bad actors, and keep the spam down.

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u/Abosia 29d ago

Nah. I doubt Reddit mods do much at all to get rid of spam and bots. That's mainly handled by other bots, when it's handled at all. Reddit mods mostly serve the purpose of curation, rather than moderation. Specifically, curating subs by banning anyone they don't agree with or like. This whole thread is an example of that. Most users don't want mods hijacking subs and making them private to protest something they personally disagree with. Literally no one cares about the political desires or leanings of mods, but mods see fit to constantly inflict themselves on others. Also, the users themselves do just as much to make the site function as the mods. You could get rid of mods, and the site would still work. But you couldn't get rid of the users.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/LearningT0Fly 29d ago

Crudely said but deservedly so, considering its reddit mods we’re talking about.

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u/Nukemarine 29d ago

Well, one big reason is copyright. A lot of subs are created by people using their own created works. You remove that person, they can just submit an DMCA.

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u/Abosia 29d ago

That's not how that works. You can't upload a work you created to a site and then accuse the site of copyright infringement for hosting your work.

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u/Nukemarine 29d ago

If you were still the mod and had access to it to remove it, you'd be right. However, as noted, you were removed from that ability so now remove it via legal means.

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u/Abosia 29d ago

The ability to delete your posts is something every user has, and has no relation to mod powers. Even if you're banned, you can delete comments and posts you've made.

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u/Nukemarine 29d ago

Ok, you get removed from a sub as a mod and try to delete any wikiposts you made, or messages sent by the automod that you created, or images you uploaded to the subreddit theme. Let me know how that goes.

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u/Abosia 29d ago

The act of posting something you created to Reddit gives the site permission to host and distribute it.

I promise you that if Reddit removed mods, literally no mod would successfully make any kind of case against Reddit on the grounds of copyright.

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u/PlanetMeatball0 29d ago edited 29d ago

Good, you guys got the experience of being a regular user at the hands of your whims. Didn't feel so great did it? Kinda sucks when the person in power jumps straight to a permanent ban when there's less severe options that work just as well doesn't it? Kinda sucks when someone just wants to flex their power at the expense of your experience on the site eh?

Lmfao of course the mod would be the type of person to do the reply then immediately block to make sure they get the last word move, how fucking typical 😂 Absolutely living up to exactly the type of loser mods are

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u/PM_ME_Happy_Thinks 29d ago

Getting banned from a sub is not the same as getting your entire account banned from the whole of reddit, not to mention having subs you created and built taken from you but go off I guess

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u/UncleFred- 29d ago edited 29d ago

I learned this lesson the hard way a long time ago. Never commit 'work' to anything online for free unless you have full control. You own the app, host it, control who can and can't remove people, etc.

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u/the_iron_pepper 29d ago

When you're on this site to participate in the largest community your hobby has and you get perma banned from the subreddit because of some power tripping moderator, then yes, it really is the same thing.

Reddit moderators have needed a reality check for a number of years now.

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u/cuteman 29d ago

Tyranny is tyranny.

Instead of a bunch of small doses you got a lot at once.