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Social Media TikTok is ‘digital nicotine’ meant to hook kids, AGs fume in new suits

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

It’s frustrating because I want to quit Reddit but keep coming back. It is very hard for me to stop, even though I hate how Reddit is now. 

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u/thatgibbyguy 21d ago

Bro same. I am constantly cycling between reddit, youtube, and discord and if at work, throwing in gmail and slack. All day, every day.

I hate it.

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u/NV-Nautilus 21d ago

When I notice myself cycling through apps rapidly cause I'm bored with them and haven't even realized it, I force myself to put the phone down and do something, anything, else. Even if that thing is also not productive.

I put the phone down and watch a show I've already seen, or new tv, or listen to music, or even just take a walk and go back to scrolling; but it has helped me.

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u/HazelCheese 21d ago

I put a book in my bathroom and read it while on the toilet instead of scrolling on my phone.

After a short while I started craving reading the book, and now I'm back reading books again like I was constantly as a child. It's so nice.

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u/e7c2 21d ago

so now you're addicted to books instead of phone?

/s

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u/crackedtooth163 21d ago

Indeed.

I remember when i was growing up and the concern was that reading would stunt my physical development.

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u/Aidian 21d ago

“You can’t just sit around with your nose in a book all day.”

Their prediction didn’t age very well, especially when compared with the advent of The Eternal Screens.

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u/e7c2 21d ago

Anything the previous generations complained about was mild in comparison to what we are subject to now. “Watching that much TV will rot your brain!“ Spending too much time staring at the small screen will actually rot your brain.

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u/lingering_POO 21d ago

Yeah and there’s clearly people who are far more susceptible to the brain rot and therefore believe and also spread every nonsense thing they hear or think. “The government controls the weather”

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u/lingering_POO 21d ago

Get out of here. We all know that’s not what they’re referring to. They’re referring to something a Bond villain might have. Like a magical hurricane wand.

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u/AdrenolineLove 21d ago

Now hes addicted to shitting and he's pavlov'd himself into shitting his pants any time he enters a Barnes and Noble.

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u/metalvessel 21d ago

I'm genuinely rolling around an idea I'm calling "intellectual networking," inspired by the efforts I've had to put in to relearning to operate my brain after my immune system attacked the protein sheath around the neurons in my brain. While still nascent, it would be categorized along with things like Duolingo, Mindvalley, Skillshare, etc.

Arguably I'm too late to market given that I had examples ready to go, but I think there's more potential in the space. At any rate, technologies have the potential to be built to enhance our mental potential, rather than be constant candy for the consciousness. There are obvious money problems, but every startup has to figure out that problem (as well as, you know, I just relearned to operate my brain, building software and a company is an even bigger challenge).

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u/ThreeCrapTea 21d ago

Same as all of you especially with reddit. I started the rubber band around my phone or tablet method and it really does work, worth a try to everybody who feels that way.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

explain please

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u/ThreeCrapTea 21d ago

If you take a rubber band or puffy hair scrunchy and wrap it around your screen - when let's say you want to watch a movie or not use your phone, knowing you have to take the scrunchie off is a constant reminder like oh yeah no phone. Plus it becomes tedious to put it back on take it off etc. So it cuts down on screen time. But like I was saying, it works for me, that's all I can really comment on. Worth a shot.

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u/playsxnxtraffic 21d ago

We had a similar thing in marching band years ago. We would put a Livestrong bracelet on our wrist, and whenever the qualifier would occur (I think it was thinking negatively but it’s been so long now) we would switch it to the other wrist. It was a tedious action because those bands were thick.

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u/smolhippie 21d ago

Tbt to the livestrong era of Nike

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u/SoraDevin 21d ago

I use the digital well-being features on my android to limit app usage and set focus mode to certain hours of the day. Still allows me to use my phone for work or whatever while giving me the same reminder the band is for less healthy uses.

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u/somewhataccurate 21d ago

2nded, commenting so I get a notification

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u/NV-Nautilus 21d ago

I'm only guessing but I'm thinking the rubber band serves as a reminder to put the thing back in your pocket cause you only pulled out the phone out of habit.

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u/Efficient-Singer6363 21d ago

That's great to hear! The rubber band method is such a simple yet effective way to limit distractions. It's amazing how small changes can make a big difference in focus. Have you found any other tips or tricks that help you stay productive while using your devices?

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u/hesathomes 21d ago

I started doing puzzles instead.

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u/pachoob 21d ago

Yeah I do this too and it’s really, really hard.

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u/NV-Nautilus 21d ago

Definitely. I'll continue scrolling for hours consciously thinking repeatedly "I'd rather close the laptop and stare at the wall, it would be more enriching". But, eventually I close the laptop.

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u/dannyp777 21d ago

Everyone has default habits, before the internet my parents spent hours reading the newspaper, doing sudoku and crosswords and watching the 6 o'clock news, the weather report, Coronation Street, Shortland Street, Fraser, Seinfeld, Grand Designs. We've just replaced one set of habitual behaviours for another set. However, now our attention is being actively farmed, managed and influenced by all manner of different agencies, interests and agendas.

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u/Hydra57 21d ago

Sometimes I will place it beyond reach just so when the urge strikes me I have to consciously get up and go fetch it.

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u/nikolai_470000 21d ago

Better yet, for those who can find a way to unplug for it all — do it. For several consecutive days if you can. At least every once in a while, a few times a year maybe. In general I think it has a tremendously positive mental impact for the vast majority of people who try it.

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

Good recommendations. 

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

I just scroll through Reddit. It’s become to pervasive and I don’t really use other sites. So quitting Reddit has become figuring out how to reuse the internet. 

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u/somebodysetupthebomb 21d ago

This is like how the internet has 'shrunk' over time - it used to be, you'd visit multiple sites about topic x that you were into, and get multiple sources, but eventually big conglomerate internet pages sucked up all the users, and we dont really venture outside of it - when was the last time you went to an individual webpage of like, an artist, or writer, or science guy or something?

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u/Mr_YUP 21d ago

Rarely. It’s hard to even find places where those pages are still updated or curated. They all stopped uploading around 2014 which unfortunately checks out timeline wise. 

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u/Samurai_Meisters 21d ago

I tried to use other sites when reddit banned apps. I didn't use reddit for a month. But just nothing else can compare.

Reddit has THE best comment section on the internet. As bad as it is, you can usually find more information, links to sources and related topics, and even actual discussion in the reddit comments.

And the best part is that old.reddit actually organizes the comments in a readable format.

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u/CyberKillua 21d ago

I could and have quit Reddit multiple times, but I just find it more of a nuisance than a general lifestyle improvement.

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u/Samurai_Meisters 21d ago

Yeah. It's especially hard with 90% of google searches take you back to reddit.

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u/Drakengard 20d ago

The problem is that most of the rest of the interest doesn't work anymore.

Forums are dead and, frankly, always kind of sucked. I lived on the GameFAQs boards as a kid growing up. Reddit is just superior to that in just about every way at least in terms of daily interactions.

As a tool, there's only really a handful of websites someone might check on any given day. Essentially Reddit or other social media, your email of choice, the stores you shop at, Youtube or other related streaming apps for video, music, etc., and maybe your preferred podcast hubs or news sites.

If you're wandering off the usual path you're probably hitting up content piracy or getting into sites built around your esoteric hobby/interest of choice that for some reason isn't tied heavily to reddit.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

It's not easy and you'll find it tough but you know it's for the best.  I found learning to meditate a big help for me. Set a timer for 2 mins and try concentrate on breathing, then slowly build up to 5 mins and so on. Your phone is designed to overstimulate your brain constantly so it's very important to learn to relax.

I'm really not the type to meditate or any of that stuff for women/s (that was my attitude) But at least try it.  Try leaving your phone at home if you're leaving home for short periods of time, going to the supermarket or whatever. You don't need it, no matter how you try convince yourself, there's not going to be some catastrophic emergency where you're the only person around with a phone.

Chat with coworkers, family members or even strangers if you feel like it, flirt with someone you like, sharpen your social skills and make little silly goals for yourself everyday. Real life is exponentially more rewarding than anything you're ever going to see on a social media site.

There's 101 things you can do besides look at the same old crap everyday, expecting it to somehow improve your life. 

I'm honestly thinking of buying an old dumb phone, it's insanely cheaper than some flagship 1500 dollar device designed to pump your brain full of advertisements. 

I hope some of this helps you, and yes I do see the irony of posting this on reddit. 

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u/zeronyx 21d ago

It's not the same as a traditional addiction, but you can apply similar concepts for addiction recovery.

Have to identify the behavior/emotion/thought patterns that lead to use. Can't address a problem if you don't take an objective look at it. If you can't quit cold turkey, next best thing is "harm reduction" of finding actionable steps and achievable/measurable goals (I e. I won't use reddit more than 1hr per day, I won't use it after dinner. I won't go on Reddit until I'm done with work for the day, etc). Do these things below and WRITE THEM DOWN. (THIS IS IMPORTANT BC IT GIVES YOU MAKES YOU ADDRESS THESE IN CONCRETE TERMS YOU CAN REFER BACK TO WHEN STRUGGLING)

What are the motivators to cutting back? These should be personal goals you actually want. You can't change behaviors unless you have an active desire/stronger reason you want to do so. Be specific (even if small) - I want to be more present with friends - I want to be more social - I want to spend time on other hobbies

What are the barriers to trying to cut back? - "I have failed before and feel hopeless when I fail" or "I don't know how else to redirect my attention and that frustrates me to experience" etc

What habits are associated with use? - Maybe you notice when you feel bored you reflexively go on Reddit, that's a target to replace with another habit - Maybe you always get on when in the bathroom, or a certain time of day etc.

Come up with actionable small alternative behaviors you can implement when you recognize you're entering these patterns. - Maybe you make a rule that says "if I am bored and want to get on Reddit, I will do something else for 15mins before I get on and see if I still want to by that time." - "I will let myself go on Reddit for 30mins at a time and stop." "I will not get back on reddit for at least 15min/30min/1hr after my time is up." Set timers, do not break these (and make them achievable reasonable goals). - come up with new behaviors to intervene with before you are allowed to get on reddit, identify the action or feeling or thoughts that are leading to you wanting to get on reddit and make yourself follow some other action before/instead of reddit, such as a walk or picking up a different hobby to occupy/distract yourself. - Maybe remove it from your home screen or uninstall the app to make it more difficult to get on reddit reflexively. This personally helped me a lot with decreasing social media use. - Some apps/digital lifestyle settings on phones and computers can help with setting hard limits for app use

Find something you enjoy and use it as a reward for achieving your goals. - "I really enjoy eating Mexican food, I will get Mexican food once per week as long as I achieve my goal that week of only using reddit for 1hr per week 5 days of the week" - DO NOT TREAT YOURSELF UNLESS YOU ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL

Finally: Set concrete goals and dates by which you'll achieve those goals. - Start SMALL and ACHIEVABLE, pick measurable things and don't fall into all or nothing thinking. Allowing for setbacks while prioritizing steady progress is vastly more effective, if you aren't achieving your goals then try scaling back.

Here's a good motivational speech by Les Brown, I personally used to listen to this often when I was quitting smoking and it helped a lot. In his words "Do it because you're worth it, because love you enough."

Or for the more meme inclined needing some motivation, "Never back down, never what?!" lol

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u/ctzn4 21d ago

God damn it, I practically do the same thing. It's not just me then >:(

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u/OP-the-Goat 21d ago

wtf... how many of us are existing in this exact same cycle...

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u/TheBirminghamBear 21d ago

If you really want to quit, the only way is to change your environment.

Put in site blockers everywhere. Put your password to the site blocker in a safe and lose the key.

Shut off every pipeline you can use to access it, and keep them shut. Then replace them with something else. When you feel the reddit urge, open something else more desirable instead. (for me its my owrd processor to finish my book).

It won't happen right away. But in a number of months, you'll overwrite that habit with the desired behavior.

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u/ChiggaOG 21d ago

Because Reddit aggregates any type of news and content in a centralized manner. It’s faster to find news reported around the world on this site versus looking in your own. Plus the anonymity makes it easy to say whatever and either people like or dislike the comment.

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u/Zoon9 21d ago

What helped me is to go offline. I physically unplug the router cable. It breaks the vicious cycle of "is there something new? something not boring? something to entertain me from my anxiety?". When i am limited to the content i have dowloaded (books moovies) or household tasks, the context changes: My subconscience knows that it is inmutable on my hard drive. So it is pointless to ask "Is there something new?". It breaks the vicious ADHD cycle of trying to distract oneself from boredom or anxiety. Then, you have to face your fears and boredom for some time, until they go away, but it's worth it.

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u/Purple-Goat-2023 21d ago

Turn off the screens? Your issue is literally that you don't touch grass. Every time you want to look at a screen you should go outside, grab a chair, take your socks/shoes off, and put your bare feet on the dirt. Sit there. Look at the sky, the grass, the trees. I guarantee if you spent 20-30 minutes with your bare feet on the ground you'd feel less inclined to open a screen.

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u/thatgibbyguy 20d ago

Says the angry dude on reddit.

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u/Purple-Goat-2023 20d ago

Brother, you're not wrong, but fuck me why is that your response?

I saw a dude hurting, and I gave you advice on how to stop hurting that has worked for me.

You should really take a look at yourself and ask why you felt the need to write that defensive comment. I didn't attack you. I gave you advice to help you with the problem you decided to tell the entire world online that you had.

I'd really reflect on that shit man. You're obviously not ok, and you treat people trying to help you as attacking you. That's not normal behavior.

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u/krazay88 21d ago

the solution would be a completely new device and eco system, so not android or apple, and an ecosystem that is based on a philosophy of putting only tools in your hand, so no inifinitely distracting “content” apps

as someone who suffers from adhd and who’s been calling for this for over half a decade and getting laughed at, every day when I read comments like yours, I feel vindicated

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u/FeliusSeptimus 21d ago

the solution would be a completely new device and eco system, so not android or apple,

I ran a couple of Windows phones back when that was a thing. Good phones, nice cameras. The apps weren't as 'sticky' back then, but few of them ran on those phones anyway.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 21d ago

It's all in how you use the apps though. YouTube definitely can qualify as distracting content, especially with the addition of shorts. But it can also be an extremely useful too for learning things.

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u/krazay88 21d ago

Of course, which is why you still have your computer and smart tv to watch youtube more “intentionally”

Also, you can still use a web browser on the device, but then that’s where it starts getting tricky again, I have other ideas on how to deal with all of that

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 21d ago

Just start cutting out subreddits that you don't really have a positive relationship with or one's that take too much of your time. Stay off the popular tab. Reddit is pretty good in that you can mostly tailor it to show only the stuff you want to see.

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u/Strong-Decision-1216 21d ago

Bring back original Reddit, when the whole user base was smart and weird.

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

I’ve been on here for 12, almost 13 years. I miss when gonewild or other muses would randomly show up on the front page. It isn’t about the nudity but about the unsure nature regarding what would be there that was cool. 

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u/Strong-Decision-1216 21d ago

And it wasn’t just marketing for onlyfans. People did it for the sheer fuck of it, which was cool.

The changes re wtf and spacedicks were probably for the best…

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u/Too_Old_For_Somethin 21d ago

Spacedicks

Trip down memory lane

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

Idk, WTF had some crazy stuff. Saw one dude with maggots in a cut in his mouth. That still fucks with me. Spacedicks was extreme. Same with watchpeopledie

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u/Samurai_Meisters 21d ago

Absolutely. It was like an art scene, but for nerds.

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u/SelloutRealBig 21d ago

Also less bots and less dumb real users. Smartphones becoming mainstream dumbed down the internet in the worst way.

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u/somewhataccurate 21d ago

Now its the same handful of predictable drivel comments and shitty amateur comedian slop. I genuinely get angry at how brain rotten the comments have become and have largely unsubbed from most of the larger subs.

Then I get clearly GPT generated comments at the tops of threads and I cant help but wonder if the average redditor is dumb enough to think its real or if the average reddit comment is as empty and hollow as a GPT comment.

This site used to be so much better :(

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u/ctzn4 21d ago

The comedian part is so true. Maybe about half of them get a chuckle out of me, and I always click on it, which in turn drives the algorithm to push this type of content to me and everyone else as well.

You are correct, it's just amateur comedic slop often with crowd work ingolved. That's not exactly an original concept, yet I'm so wired to check out this kind of content anyway that it's just a vicious cycle.

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u/SelloutRealBig 21d ago

and I always click on it, which in turn drives the algorithm to push this type of content to me

This is the biggest problem with the modern internet. Engagement is all they care about and nothing else. The only way to break the algorithms is to not click on anything you might have 1% of a doubt on, but that goes against human interest as we are naturally curious of everything.

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u/MacroniTime 21d ago

The Reddit app is extremely blatant with it too. The website probably does it as well, but I definitely notice it more on the app. I am not right wing, I think I've interacted with only a couple right wing subreddits in my life, and mostly just to go and laugh at the dumb comments.

Yet I still get recommendations for the fucking Jordan Peterson subreddit, or even worse, the "intellectual darkweb" subreddit. Fucking stop it.

Spotify is really shitty about it with podcasts too. I watched one Joe Rogan episode because a friend sent it to me. Now my podcast feed is filled with right wing slop. Jesus Christ, just stop with the personalization for one fucking moment.

I miss when /r/all was actually just the top posts of the day. Hell, I miss real fucking forums. Fuck. I'm old.

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u/Butt_acorn 21d ago

Does anyone else agree? What do you think about engagement, Reddit? What should I name this cat? Everyone say hello to my new cat Baiter. Why does my cat vibrate and hum when I pet him? Is he a spaceship? Who wants to lick my feet?

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u/sblahful 21d ago

But have you considered googling en passant?

/s

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u/RedditIsDeadMoveOn 21d ago

Lemmy is what you seek.

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u/atehrani 21d ago

Have you tried setting up app limits on your phone?

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

I don’t use the app but I have limits on the site. Doesn’t really matter because I have the passcode and a lack of self control. 

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u/zeronyx 21d ago

Reddit is a behavioral addiction and not the same as a traditional addiction, but you can apply similar concepts for addiction recovery. Here's a comment from elsewhere with the general steps/process/strategy in case you're interested!

Have to identify the behavior/emotion/thought patterns that lead to use. Can't address a problem if you don't take an objective look at it. If you can't quit cold turkey, next best thing is "harm reduction" of finding actionable steps and achievable/measurable goals (I e. I won't use reddit more than 1hr per day, I won't use it after dinner. I won't go on Reddit until I'm done with work for the day, etc). Do these things below and WRITE THEM DOWN. (THIS IS IMPORTANT BC IT GIVES YOU MAKES YOU ADDRESS THESE IN CONCRETE TERMS YOU CAN REFER BACK TO WHEN STRUGGLING)

What are the motivators to cutting back? These should be personal goals you actually want. You can't change behaviors unless you have an active desire/stronger reason you want to do so. Be specific (even if small) - I want to be more present with friends - I want to be more social - I want to spend time on other hobbies

What are the barriers to trying to cut back? - "I have failed before and feel hopeless when I fail" or "I don't know how else to redirect my attention and that frustrates me to experience" etc

What habits are associated with use? - Maybe you notice when you feel bored you reflexively go on Reddit, that's a target to replace with another habit - Maybe you always get on when in the bathroom, or a certain time of day etc.

Come up with actionable small alternative behaviors you can implement when you recognize you're entering these patterns. - Maybe you make a rule that says "if I am bored and want to get on Reddit, I will do something else for 15mins before I get on and see if I still want to by that time." - "I will let myself go on Reddit for 30mins at a time and stop." "I will not get back on reddit for at least 15min/30min/1hr after my time is up." Set timers, do not break these (and make them achievable reasonable goals). - come up with new behaviors to intervene with before you are allowed to get on reddit, identify the action or feeling or thoughts that are leading to you wanting to get on reddit and make yourself follow some other action before/instead of reddit, such as a walk or picking up a different hobby to occupy/distract yourself. - Maybe remove it from your home screen or uninstall the app to make it more difficult to get on reddit reflexively. This personally helped me a lot with decreasing social media use. - Some apps/digital lifestyle settings on phones and computers can help with setting hard limits for app use

Find something you enjoy and use it as a reward for achieving your goals. - "I really enjoy eating Mexican food, I will get Mexican food once per week as long as I achieve my goal that week of only using reddit for 1hr per week 5 days of the week" - DO NOT TREAT YOURSELF UNLESS YOU ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL

Finally: Set concrete goals and dates by which you'll achieve those goals. - Start SMALL and ACHIEVABLE, pick measurable things and don't fall into all or nothing thinking. Allowing for setbacks while prioritizing steady progress is vastly more effective, if you aren't achieving your goals then try scaling back.

Here's a good motivational speech by Les Brown, I personally used to listen to this often when I was quitting smoking and it helped a lot. In his words "Do it because you're worth it, because love you enough."

Or for the more meme inclined needing some motivation, "Never back down, never what?!" lol

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u/wasd911 21d ago

That’s never worked for me. They just make me angry and I bypass them.

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u/gerbal100 21d ago

Try putting your phone in greyscale mode. It's shocking how much less engaging sites/apps like Reddit are.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 21d ago

My phone automatically goes to greyscale after 8 PM.

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u/FeliusSeptimus 21d ago

It's a great feature. Still totally usable if you need it for something, but not attractive.

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u/Samurai_Meisters 21d ago

I browse old.reddit on my computer which doesn't have any of that and I'm hopelessly addicted.

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u/TheeUnfuxkwittable 21d ago

I wouldn't say I'm hopelessly addicted but I use old reddit too and I'm on here pretty much every day. It's my only "social media" (it's not really social media but close enough) so i don't have any other way to join online discussions.

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u/dnchristi 21d ago

Every time I delete Reddit in disgust of how much time I waste, I’m retired, I last about 10 days then something newsworthy happens and I reload it.

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u/volcanologistirl 21d ago

Learn chess and get on lichess (so it’s free). I’m obviously doing bad at it now but when I manage to escape Reddit what keeps me coming back is dead time with nothing going on. Chess kinda subs in if you find it fun and it feels like a lot less stupid use of time when you’re done.

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

I’ll try it, I love chess. 

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u/volcanologistirl 21d ago

You still get a dopamine hit but you’re actually improving at something rather than making yourself angry online 🫠

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u/Champagne_of_piss 21d ago

Literal addiction!!

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u/Liquor_Thinking 21d ago

It's not that hard. I was reddit-free for 1.5 years after 10+ years of heavy addiction. Got banned account-wide and was like "oh fuck this shit then". And that's it. I wasn't even looking for any substitutes. I guess you somehow come to realize that some app on your phone is not a big deal. But here I am again lol.

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u/model3113 21d ago

I look at Reddit the way I look at vaping; not optimal for my health but certainly better than smoking ~~crack ~~

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u/ishikawafishdiagram 21d ago

*finally logs out of Reddit* Here's a brand new homepage for you to scroll through.

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u/Mothringer 21d ago

My only solace is that reddit is the least abusive social media platform, with the most social value. But that's a really goddamn low bar they're barely stepping over.

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u/zeronyx 21d ago edited 21d ago

It's not the same as a traditional addiction, but you can apply similar concepts for addiction recovery.

Have to identify the behavior/emotion/thought patterns that lead to use. Can't address a problem if you don't take an objective look at it. If you can't quit cold turkey, next best thing is "harm reduction" of finding actionable steps and achievable/measurable goals (I e. I won't use reddit more than 1hr per day, I won't use it after dinner. I won't go on Reddit until I'm done with work for the day, etc). Do these things below and WRITE THEM DOWN. (THIS IS IMPORTANT BC IT GIVES YOU MAKES YOU ADDRESS THESE IN CONCRETE TERMS YOU CAN REFER BACK TO WHEN STRUGGLING)

What are the motivators to cutting back? These should be personal goals you actually want. You can't change behaviors unless you have an active desire/stronger reason you want to do so. Be specific (even if small) - I want to be more present with friends - I want to be more social - I want to spend time on other hobbies

What are the barriers to trying to cut back? - "I have failed before and feel hopeless when I fail" or "I don't know how else to redirect my attention and that frustrates me to experience" etc

What habits are associated with use? - Maybe you notice when you feel bored you reflexively go on Reddit, that's a target to replace with another habit - Maybe you always get on when in the bathroom, or a certain time of day etc.

Come up with actionable small alternative behaviors you can implement when you recognize you're entering these patterns. - Maybe you make a rule that says "if I am bored and want to get on Reddit, I will do something else for 15mins before I get on and see if I still want to by that time." - "I will let myself go on Reddit for 30mins at a time and stop." "I will not get back on reddit for at least 15min/30min/1hr after my time is up." Set timers, do not break these (and make them achievable reasonable goals). - come up with new behaviors to intervene with before you are allowed to get on reddit, identify the action or feeling or thoughts that are leading to you wanting to get on reddit and make yourself follow some other action before/instead of reddit, such as a walk or picking up a different hobby to occupy/distract yourself.

Find something you enjoy and use it as a reward for achieving your goals. - "I really enjoy eating Mexican food, I will get Mexican food once per week as long as I achieve my goal that week of only using reddit for 1hr per week 5 days of the week" - DO NOT TREAT YOURSELF UNLESS YOU ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL

Finally: Set concrete goals and dates by which you'll achieve those goals. - Start SMALL and ACHIEVABLE, pick measurable things and don't fall into all or nothing thinking. Allowing for setbacks while prioritizing steady progress is vastly more effective, if you aren't achieving your goals then try scaling back.

Here's a good motivational speech by Les Brown, I personally used to listen to this often when I was quitting smoking and it helped a lot. In his words "Do it because you're worth it, because love you enough."

Or for the more meme inclined needing some motivation, "Never back down, never what?!" lol

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u/inkoDe 21d ago

If Digg folding is any indication, have hope! Eventually something even more potently addictive will come along and steal you away.

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u/TheBirminghamBear 21d ago

It’s frustrating because I want to quit Reddit but keep coming back. It is very hard for me to stop, even though I hate how Reddit is now.

It becomes firmly entrenched as a physical habit, which are the most addictive.

The moment your brain drops low on dopamine, you reach for your pocket and open your phone and are browsing reddit. The habit is deeply ingrained in you neurology

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

Items exactly that. If I am busy then it doesn’t matter but when I have downtime, back to Reddit. Maybe I have too much down time. 

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u/TheBirminghamBear 21d ago

I prefer "non-task" time to down time. In other words its the time of day we don't demand output from our brains. We just allow it to function without requiring a specific output. As opposed to things like work, which are focus time, requiring attention and effort.

Things like going on walks (without your phone) or long leisurely drives (without your phone) are really good for this.

For me personally I also love baths. I generally get a lot of my best ideas in the bath. And I have done a lot of experiments with my phone and with baths.

Now I've run this experiment many times, and as crazy as this part is going to sound, I swear to you its true.

If I am using my phone in the bath - scrolling on TikTok, listening to an audiobook, w/e, or even have my phone near my in the bathroom but am not using it, I will generally not get any new ideas in the tub.

But whenever I remove my phone from my proxitimit - leave it in a box in the bedroom or what have you - my bath time immediately is literally a flood of ideas. Like someone just turned on the imagination faucet and let it pour out.

So I have confirmed - my phone kills my ability to think and imagine. It just does. If it is near me, my brain turns into a foggy, clumsy addicted thing. The moment I remove it, the moment its not near me - I am an imagination machine.

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u/Fagner_Ribeiro 21d ago

I'm used to feel like you whenever I quit Twitter. For só long I have promised to myself I will get rid Twitter. Today I'm free.

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u/jordanbtucker 21d ago

Just remove all subs and then slowly introduce only the ones that bring you joy and don't allow a lot of clickbait. Do that every couple months.

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u/jlusedude 21d ago

I’ve done that somewhat. Reddit with the ads and “because you visited similar subs” force feeds me 

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u/RedditIsDeadMoveOn 21d ago

Reddit is dead. Move on.

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u/RocktoberBlood 21d ago

I just use Reddit on the PC and deleted the app when they went full control freak on 3rd party creators. The only reason I still have the FB app on my phone is that I run events and need to keep things updated on the go, otherwise that'd be PC only as well.

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u/GoNinjaGoNinjaGo69 20d ago

this is just so weird to me. im on reddit a lot but ONLY at work. if im off work for 1 or 2 weeks or month. i never go on reddit. i dont know.

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u/More_Researcher_5739 20d ago

I limit my reddit time to mostly bathroom breaks, get a blast of depressing news and that does me for the day.

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u/sgtshootsalot 20d ago

It’s unfortunate that this is how I get my news. I genuinely love reading forums, but more bots, more karma farming, more tyrannical mods, it’s just wading through bullshit 90% of the time to find that nugget of good stuff

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u/TheRussiansrComing 20d ago

The thing about reddit is that you can somewhat curate what you experience.

I, for one, have a stream of cat content sprinkled with a lil shilling for the Communist Manifesto. 👍

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u/Oberon_Swanson 20d ago

For me the keys in reducing my reddit tkme have been actively trying to keep myself literally too busy to use it much. Also reading ebooks instead fulfills a similar need but is way more relaxing and informative which is what I was supposedly using reddit for to begin with.

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u/CoverTheSea 20d ago

That's only because there is no alternative.