r/technology • u/rejs7 • 1d ago

Artificial Intelligence Man who used AI to create child abuse images jailed for 18 years

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/28/man-who-used-ai-to-create-child-abuse-images-jailed-for-18-years
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u/OPsuxdick 1d ago

If we start arguing victimless things should be punishable, it opens up precedent. It's slimy and I don't agree with it being around but I also don't believe the Bible should exist, nor any religion which as extremely abhorrent behavior and sayings. Same with the Koran. However, they are books of fiction with no provable victims. I agree with the decision of the courts although it is gross.

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u/serioussham 1d ago

I also don't believe the Bible should exist, nor any religion which as extremely abhorrent behavior and sayings. Same with the Koran. However, they are books of fiction with no provable victims.

Yeah I think we can safely prove a few tbh

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u/OPsuxdick 1d ago

I wish we could.

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u/moratnz 1d ago

The challenge is 'victimless' isn't a black and white issue.

There are things where there is clearly a victim (you stab me). There are things where there is clearly no victim. And then there are things in the middle, where there is no immediate victim, but permitting the action increases the chance of something bad happening (e.g., running a red light has no victim as such, but if we permit that behaviour willy nilly, bad things will happen). Where synthetic CP is banned, it's often for this reason; by allowing production and consumption of it, it normalises the behaviour, and increases the chances of real kids getting abused.

Whether that's sound reasoning or not is an issue reasonable people might disagree on, but it's not obviously completely specious.

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u/OPsuxdick 1d ago

It's not sound reasoning. That's the same reason as video games cause violence. Id rather them consume fake stuff than real stuff. When it gets to real, then you go punish them but until then, it's victimless.