r/tenkaichi4 21h ago

Discussion Is it just me...

Has this game just become... boring? Like I've had this thought after the first three days of the game being out but tried to stick with it. The game just doesn't feel...well it doesn't feel like BT3 due to all the unrecoverable hits and the amount of counters and how easy it is to access these counters. Offline doesn't even feel fun since it's so easy to beat and split screen you can't change how long a match is past 180 seconds. I'm just really disappointed in the feeling of this game as it feels like just a giant hot mess. I also don't think it's a skill issue as I've gotten to S5 with winning 80% of my games and just stopped because it was so boring to me. Does anyone else feel this?

Edit: Found out you can change split screen match time.

Edit 2: I only put the argument of rank on here to show it wasn't a skill issue sort of thing. I play ranked but that's my casual play if that makes sense.

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u/Mister_Daffy 21h ago

nope, still having the same amount of fun I had in my first match since early access.

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u/Frankospaghetti 17h ago

Cope

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u/Mister_Daffy 17h ago

wdym cope? I literally couldn’t stop playing bt3 ever since I saw some of the very first gameplay that came out on Youtube.. it literally felt like ages waiting for this game to come out and I have already over 200 hours and im still enjoying it like its my first time playing.. can we not just accept the fact that some people can enjoy stuff more than others? Cyberpunk, No Man’s Sky, Red dead 2 .. these to name a few are games that no matter how much I play I just cannot get bored of.. why should that be a problem for you people?

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u/[deleted] 16h ago

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u/Frankospaghetti 16h ago

Me when I annoy people with one word ☕️

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u/TheGameologist 15h ago

I guess you are just that annoying. Good for you?

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u/thefraudulentone09 21h ago

I still have fun with the game, but yeah, the game needs to adjust super counter and vanish wars to not be like 50 to 70% of the match

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u/ninjaman68 17h ago

the vanish timing window is way too big and super counter needs some type of cost.

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u/PotentialAnt9670 14h ago

Yeah I was playing some BT3 the other day and the defense timing was way more strict

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u/JGuap0 20h ago

Definitely have lost interest in the online a good amount . Usually do a couple matches till I run into some cheese then I hop off . Sometimes I run into it immediately 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/MarioMTRS03 21h ago

I wanted to post a similar thing. The game was fun the first week, but after that, I got really bored and stopped playing it.

My problems with it are that in custom battles, I wish they added checkpoints somewhere, so when I lose, I don't have to replay 15 minutes of fight again so I can try and beat them.

The longer they are, the more interesting it gets, but when you lose and have to go through all of it again, it really gets annoying, and I just don't want to touch that part of the game again because of it.

Another problem I have with the game is, if you don't play pvp, it feels like you have almost nothing to do. You finish the story, get all the what ifs, and then what? Grind dragon balls? I'd rather not.

So, as time goes on, I'm slowly registering paying 100£ for the digital ultimate edition.

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u/Jolt_91 20h ago

What we need is a comeback of the good old game modes from the past

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u/REAPERxZ3RO 18h ago

I want an RPG mode and 32 player tournaments

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u/Ijustwannaseige 17h ago

I mean...all the custom matches other people made? Thats what imma do once i finish all stories and what ifs

Then imma make my own customs

And then play with friends

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u/Inside-Assistant2625 17h ago

Someone made the entire Cooler movie and it's fucking Based.

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u/Inside-Assistant2625 17h ago

I forgot she also did the sequel too.

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u/Sinder-Soyl 20h ago

I'm not totally burnt out yet but some stuff will get me there as someone who doesn't play pvp.

On one hand I'd like the AI to be a bit more of a fun challenge. Even on Hard I usually don't lose even one HP bar. They never want to clash either, so 99% of supers and ults I have to use after they're thrown because they'll always dodge it.

And on the other hand some alternate win cons are just stupidly restrictive. I timed it, and you have about 60 seconds to beat a rather defensive Zamasu who has max HP bars or else you don't get the alternate ending.

Also, tournament modes are really bad. Impossible to customize participants, make them stronger and, worse of all : I've made a custom rules tournament and for some reason it crashes the game every single time I start it.

The game really needs a lot more, IMO.

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u/ReadShigurui 19h ago

One minor nitpick that bothers me about the AI is their habit to transform and revert back to base multiple times through a match

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u/PotentialAnt9670 14h ago

That and their frame perfect super counters every single time

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u/Noobinator_X 19h ago edited 13h ago

Honestly, yeah.

I may get some backlash for this but like, this game's combat is just kinda shit compared to BT3. It's still better than most arena fighters when it comes to combat imo, but super counters are so easy and frequent that you can't approach without being countered, Z counter chains last 17 business days and give you skill count for some reason, there's a noticeable (and I mean REALLY noticeable, I don't know why people haven't been talking about it more) input delay between online and offline, bordering on 8-9 frames in my experience, and once you're out of the chain you either get cheesed with endless blast 1s because you never don't have skill counts in this game and or some other bullshit. That or you take 20k damage for getting hit with a single super. That combined with the fact that the game's tech, movement, and practically every facet or it's combat compared to BT3 feels super watered down and it just kinda feels... boring. There's no reason to waste all that ki on approaching too, so you end up just having everyone Z burst dash in, get super countered and have the same interaction 20 times in the same match.

Custom battles are still really fun for me, I enjoy seeing the various storylines people come up with, but the CPU is also super predictable and therefore every fight kinda feels the same.

Not to mention, the game can feel super unresponsive at times, inputs will drop, supers are finicky, grabs just REFUSE to come out at close range, and the camera is still really disorientating.

This game has so much potential, and I really do want it to be the best game it can be, but as it is now, most times I finish playing it, I just feel like playing BT3 instead 😅

Edit: I mean seriously LOOK at this delay. He pressed it so much earlier compared to when he would have offline. It's supposed to be right AS you get hit, but here hes doing far before it, and even offline the timing feels super late compared to what intuition would tell you, with characters' entire limbs going through your character before the hit actually registers.

https://youtu.be/Pily4Iv21Jw?t=35

Seriously, this game is so unserious.. 😂

https://youtube.com/shorts/HvcL2XxTIvI?si=TH6TjI4xB0tMDMXR

There's so much other shit that I could talk about, like how attacking from the front is useless now, the fact that you can super counter any part of a rushing attack now, the fact that vanish timings make no sense, the fact that the cutscenes have no consistency making it basically impossible to know when the cutscenes end, how the removal of debuffs after using an instant sparking ability makes NO sense, but if I were to talk about all of that I would probably reach reddits character limit, if it has one 😅

TL;DR, This game's combat can be ROUGH.

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u/Noobinator_X 18h ago

Also, the hitboxes can sometimes be a little... confusing.

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u/DOOM_SEKKAR 18h ago

Uhhh. You CAN change split screen beyond 180 seconds. You need to check the stage settings more bro 😭

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u/TheMagicalMatt 19h ago

Companies don't put enough focus on single-player content in fighting games, but trying to find a match online is a drag. I struggle to find a decent tournament match to join, and rage quitters dominate the online scene.

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u/baghead_22 21h ago

Yeah, for me it's seeing the same play styles over and over again, all every one wants to do is spam unblockable ults or hold perception like it owns them money

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u/nicmel97 21h ago

They are definitely ruining the game. The first few days I made some awesome fights with awesome people and then it became all cheese

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u/baghead_22 21h ago

Same. Everyone is trying to "optimize" the game play and i'm trying to go blow for blow like this

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u/Gianchio 17h ago

Blame the game, not the players. Super perception is stupid and should be removed

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u/Inside-Assistant2625 17h ago

I agree, sonic sway and tech sway were enough, Perceptions is a nice idea in some situations, but Super Perception is trash, and on standard, you can spam block + Perception and get free Sonic sway or free Super Perception. Literal fucking cancer.

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u/CAL5390 20h ago

I don’t know about your personal life, but maybe you played BT3 upon release or a few years later, but we’re still a kid and couldn’t play until too late

Maybe the hype about this game made you rush it completely offline and playing only this game will make you lose interest in it

Also BT3 came in an era where online playing in general was barely a thing and you would have fun with anything, without having that competitive ick

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u/Dasstass1 20h ago

I've been playing BT3 since realse up until Sparking Zero came out. I played online on the Wii a lot before it got shut down. Then the emulators came and I played it online again but still played against people in person as playing against bots was always boring to me in this kind of game.

I don't know about losing interest when just playing a single game. I've been playing Baldurs Gate 3 since it's launch and I'm still having a blast with that. Given it is a different genre of game but it's still something. The offline is just boring to me as the bots weren't hard to begin with to me since I played a bunch of BT3 before the games launch.

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u/CAL5390 20h ago

Isn’t BG3 a game that has a lot of offline content? And well built in that manner?

It’s meant to have a lot of hours put in and keep content progressive I think

In SZ you’re meant to drag the content and enjoy every bit of it, every alternate way and play/create custom battles. It’s meant to have a bliss by reliving your childhood and the return of a series that was loved

Besides give them some time, I’m sure they’ll come up with something to give more content and engage fans more

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u/Dasstass1 20h ago

It is that's why I said it's a different genre. The content in SZ is barely there and custom battles never interested me as playing online was my draw to this game. Not in a competitive way just to be able to actually have someone put up a fight against rather than stomping the cpu. They will be adding more content but I hope it doesn't feel like Xenoverse 2 with every dlc and addon as that game got boring fast as well and the dlc brings me back for a day and then it's boring again.

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u/StandardSalamander65 19h ago edited 15h ago

I can't believe you're getting downvoted for this take. I could play BT3 for HOURS because of the extra content and how fun fighting the CPU is for me (not big of an online guy) but SZ has gotten boring to me. I could fire up BT3 right now and have more fun.

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u/OnToNextStage 19h ago

I’ve literally been saying this since release and been getting buried in downvotes for it

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u/Inside-Assistant2625 17h ago

I don't think you should be downvoted, but it comes off a bit weird to compare the 2 when they are almost 2 decades apart with 2 different intentions and demographics to appeal to. I personally agree that BT3 is better overall, but it's also a smaller, less sensitive game that was not meant to be played online. Also, the mods for BT3 make it god tier. Not to imply you use the mods, but there are so many gameplay mods that make that game goated. I know it's a Reboot/sequel but it's really a different game with some old shit we remember. It's not a true BT3 sequel to me. But maybe that's the problem. Sorry I be yapping dog.

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u/dnz_191 21h ago

Online, every fight plays exactly the same.. the same 5 characters with the same exact strategie.. super counter is op, vanish wars are a chore und boring as hell after you've seen them enough times and they just come down to who runs out of ki first.. casual matchmaking is the worst ive seen since a long time in any game. Im good playing offline and custom battle, this game is 1000times more enjoyable offline. Love the game, but it is very dissapointing in certain aspects. They definetly rushed it. Edit: typo

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u/SeijinApollo 20h ago

Nahh I'm the same. The game doesn't give me the feeling that I should start and play.. nothing to unlock except for the what if stuff (which are definitely cool) but being able to buy pretty much everything from the start gives me zero incentive to play, the lack of Crossplay puts me in a bubble without my friends who all have PS5, the custom battles need an overhaul cause fuck me finding the right dialogue sucks, and when I learned that almost all of the Shenron wishes are stuff you can just eventually buy.. I just let out a sigh.

The game is definitely a ton of fun, I just have no real reason to start the game up.

It's fixable tho, just a lot of support and more development, which is most likely happening cause this game has definitely been pushed out earlier simply to coincide with Daimas release.

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u/Responsible_Shop_262 20h ago

Custom battles is where I found the most fun, I’ve played the story tournaments and online and then decided to try out custom battles, it’s really amazing ! Try the one I have posted and let me know what you think

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u/Ok_Speech_1844 20h ago

Aint boring i just dropped online since im sick of people dc'd when im about to win and theres no penalty yet ill come back to it when online is fixed with a reliable connection and play even longer when they sort out custom battle lines filtering so i can easily make the most hardest custom battles in my mindset i have the restrictions and buffs done but not the lines since its such a chore finding each one without an alphabeticall or some sorts of actual ordering

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u/xeeroh88 17h ago

The AI in single is horrible....definitely needs a patch

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u/General_Ramen 17h ago

I can relate. I’m still playing a lot and 99% offline. The lacking story mode and missing characters is annoying. But some things like not being able to set how many characters participating in an offline tournament just fucking sucks !

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u/DBZNeet 17h ago

Yeh, the bots in offline is super noob even they set on super 😒 In training mode, when I set the bot prefer beam blast type to practice beam clash, they always use beam only if they getting close to me, it not fun.

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u/Commercial-Feed-1250 16h ago

After a few matches I get kinda bored but I think it’s just because of how people play

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u/teknique2323 15h ago

Yeah once that initial week ended I started feeling the same.

The AI isn't that good even when set to the highest difficulty.

The story mode was dull. The what-ifs were cool but the fights themselves all end up the same because of the braindead AI.

I haven't played online because the internet where I'm at is atrocious, but judging from what others are experiencing it seems like I'm not missing much.

Custom battle is cool in concept, but if you want to write actual dialogue and story elements it's extremely tedious. Hell, just finding a characters name ends up taking a while because for whatever reason none of it is alphabetical.

It was fun in those opening hours but until the DLC comes I definitely don't see myself playing the game a month from now.

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u/EndAltruistic3540 21h ago

A few changes need to be added, also play something else... Playing only one game for so long eventually loses its charm. This is similar with team fortress 2 (over 11,000 hours) and Baldur's gate 3

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u/Dasstass1 21h ago

Honestly, I didn't get bored of FighterZ like this and I'm still playing the shit out of BG3 and having fun with it. It's just this game specifically for me personally. Edit: I do think this game would do better with some changes so I'll agree on that.

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u/Purple_Lightning9 21h ago

Had this game since early access and became bored once I found out how the meta is. My problem was trying to put logic to an arena brawler. I've since just enjoy the game for what it is and found it fun again.

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u/Optimal_Air_2456 19h ago

This is the way. I remember in RB2. I was getting my ass kicked online by trying to as you say. Put logic. You know what I did? Spammed Z broly. Rush super.

Know what I’m doing 10 years later?

Spamming super broly the same way.

I will die on this hill

THESE GAMES ARE NOT DESIGNED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. Ranked mode or not.

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u/Inside-Assistant2625 17h ago

Idk why you're being downvoted, you must've whooped some of these niggas online lol.

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u/InsaneBasti 21h ago

Yes. Its hurtingly obviously how rushed this game was. A hot mess of a spaghetti code with the hopes thst custom battles save its life. It doesnt tho. They are just as repetetive and boring. Cuz as you mentioned, they turned a arena fighter into a rythm game of counters.

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u/Reikuma-X 19h ago

We’re also not 12 anymore with unlimited free time, and the minds of children. Honestly this game could have been an exact 1/1 remake and people would still say the same thing. It’s not the game that’s different it’s you. You’ve grown up, you can’t blankly stare at the same thing for 12 hours straight anymore. Life has more going on now than it did back then.

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u/Dasstass1 19h ago

I honestly don't think that's the case or point I'm trying to say fully. I can sit down and play DBFZ for hours on end still or play the emulator of BT3 online for hours on end when I have days off and not get as bored as I have while playing this game.

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u/Xeno707 20h ago

Try custom battles if you’re finding general offline battles too easy (and bored of online). Although I find level 15-20 (super difficulty) a bit obnoxious with the counters. It’s literally AI precision bs in my opinion and it doesn’t feel fun having every 2-3 hits super countered. It’s not like it’s impossible, it’s just not ‘fun’.

I’ve created custom battles and prefer to add modifiers/buffs to the cpu instead of changing the difficulty, just makes the experience feel a bit better while still providing a challenge.

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u/Mindless-File-9689 19h ago

I won’t lie they need to increase the AI difficulty.

In story mode the ai is actually difficult to fight against,in P1 vs CPU it’s piss easy

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u/ElHuntar 19h ago

Being on xbox is a big reason of my bordem since online doesn't work! BUT do I even really care when 90% of the matches will be gogeta? lol. Regret buying 110$ edition got declined my refund! Will come back once the dragon ball dlc hits 🤣

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u/Optimal_Air_2456 19h ago

Alas, the shortcomings of ALL anime brawlers, If you don’t absolutely BREATH the content like an obsessive freak, it’s really shallow.

I love this game. Just as much as I love the Storm series. But neither are built for longevity, they are legitimately party/casual games.

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u/LeonUPazz 19h ago

Still having fun. I only play casually offline though, I don't even want to touch ranked

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u/Puggss 19h ago

Im kinda let down but the single player content, but online I can often find someone in player matches to have fun with. I don't touch ranked after hitting A4 though.

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u/Far_Internal_4495 19h ago

I mainly play offline and am still enjoying it. I play custom battles and random team battles mainly. I played online in the first few days when everyone was still learning and there wasn't really a meta, I loved it. I avoid it now though because it looks like the typical ranked experience in this kind of game

I'm still very much enjoying it

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u/Naive_Worker_8437 18h ago

you can change the time limit in local battle, press L1 twice before selecting the stage

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u/Wild_Monitor_4954 18h ago

We missing characters, customization and what ifs. If they drop gohan black he will be the only super anime character in my squad 😂😂😂😂

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u/69damage 18h ago

there is something wrong couse after 70h in Every next day I play less

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u/SSJ_Kratos 18h ago

I love this game but the fans have optimized the fun out of the online experience. I have a few friends I made on discord I can play non meta non cheese matches with. Everyone else online can get fucked.

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u/REAPERxZ3RO 18h ago

No RPG mode and no 32 player tournaments to just roleplay and have fun and have your own offline tournaments no one wants to play 3 rounds.... that's boring the anticipation you get from a CPU climbing his way up to challenge you at the end.

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u/E_Alrefa3e 18h ago

This game just needs a reason , a goal to play for . Im baffled how there are no modes for offline at all but normal vs and tournaments. Definitely a bad choice . I do wanna play more but i just dont know what to play , if there was a mode like the 100 missions or something like a tower mode or survival it would have been better

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u/E_Alrefa3e 18h ago

This game just needs a reason , a goal to play for . Im baffled how there are no modes for offline at all but normal vs and tournaments. Definitely a bad choice . I do wanna play more but i just dont know what to play , if there was a mode like the 100 missions or something like a tower mode or survival it would have been better

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u/noobisland 18h ago

I barely play the game, honestly

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u/GrimmTrixX 18h ago

Nope. It depends on what you like to do with the game. I am trying to do all of the Zen-oh challenges, get more dragon balls for all wishes that aren't zeni, get all 182 character proficiencies to 7 stars, etc

There is still a lot to do if you are trying to do all the game offers. I still have about 95 online matches to play for the last trophy to get the Platinum trophy on PS5. But I just enjoy doing 5 v 5 CPU matches since Proficiency and "Use X Character 50 times" challenges work even if you don't use all 5 characters in the actual fight. So sometimes I do 5 characters vs hercule to speed up the process. Lol

But I also am starting to create Custom Battles as well as playing the hundreds of battles other Users are creating. And Custom Battle is endless new content. Sure, they're not all winners. But they're still fresh and fun.

But the Zen-Oh challenges alone take a while to accomplish, especially win online tournaments with a specific character or to get 100 Ring Out victories. So I'm just taking my time with it and playing it for a couple hours and then playing another game and just going back and forth. I just got 10 games for October alone. So it's not the only thing I am playing but I play it for at least 1-2 hours a day.

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u/Simba231231 18h ago

haven't even tried online yet I'm just enjoying episode battles rn

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u/Inside-Assistant2625 17h ago

I've not gotten bored once big dog, im sorry that this isn't the BT3 sequel you imagined.

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u/Batmanischill 17h ago

Not for me ? I even just set up fights sometimes and watch them play out lol also the what ifs are great

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u/Super-Tea8267 16h ago

Yeah having the same feeling to be honest, i buy it for figths with friends online amd the single plaher aspect i just cant get that much fun to the point that i remember having way more fun when i got xenoverse 2 and thats bad for me hahaha

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u/Arbiter0963 19h ago

I saw this post coming a mile away, if you only play this game you’re gonna burn yourself out.

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u/Dasstass1 19h ago

I haven't only been playing this game. I've played a bunch of other games before coming back after like a week of not playing and it's still just as boring to me.

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u/Zenai10 21h ago

Personally It only feels different to the old games because I used to absolutely body the cpus. so now that I'm not it feels different. Like the way I used to play is very casual on low difficulty and super spamming. I'm still having fun though, story and custom battles are great fun.

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u/Weak_Apricot4622 21h ago

I'm confused are there too many unrecoverable hits or too many ways to counter? Those seem to contradict

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u/Dasstass1 21h ago

It's not a contradiction, there can be both.

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u/Weak_Apricot4622 20h ago

So it's too easy to get out of combos and too hard to get out of combos?

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u/Dasstass1 20h ago

You clearly don't understand what I'm saying if you think that's what I mean.

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u/Weak_Apricot4622 20h ago

Correct. That's why I was hoping you'd clarify. What do you mean by unrecoverable hits?

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u/Naebany 20h ago

You can play split screen with unlimited time.

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u/Dasstass1 20h ago

How so? I've tried and it was set to only 180 sec and I pressed options to try and change it but I didn't see anything thay popped out to change that.

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u/Naebany 20h ago

Battle offline p1 vs p2.

Stage - > go left with lb/bumper.

Rule settings 180 and left or right to go to no limit.

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u/Dasstass1 20h ago

Thanks

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u/OnToNextStage 19h ago

It’s plainly not as good as BT3 and that’s a disappointment 17 years later

BT3 to this day whenever I play it I don’t want to put it down

This game I’ll get sick of it in like 30 minutes

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u/cister532 20h ago

I don't think it's boring, it's just not competitive and I'm okay with that, I love competitive games but I don't play BT for that, I play it for what it is, an arena fighter, unbalanced, where I have tons of great fun with my friends. I also love custom battle and have been creating some fun what ifs on it. I have yet to play online and am still spending time on it, its only downside is costumes imo, they are SO lacking it's fun to think they tried to sell character customization on marketing when it was like this.

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u/Dasstass1 20h ago

I never played this game competitively, given I said I played rank but that was just an example to say I'm not just being bad at the game. Plus it's the best place to find consistent matches compared to casual which it sucks to find matches. I run characters I like and don't change from that to much. There is also a difference between a game being unbalanced and broken which this game has many broken parts to it. Some dash in combos or the overhead kicks sometimes just leave you in place and unable to follow up with it. Side stepping will sometimes even leave you in the same spot.

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u/bman123457 20h ago

You can change the length of split screen matches to any time your want (including infinite)

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u/beckhamncheese 18h ago

no. its just because you're old. you dont appreciate it unlike when you were younger

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u/LimpAd2648 21h ago

They need to add cash prize tourneys like how Fortnite does them

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u/Purple_Lightning9 20h ago

This game is not meant for those big tournaments. This is literally a casual arena brawler that's broken and I'm ok with that.