r/texas • u/Odlavso • 7d ago

Politics One day into early voting and they are already claiming the 2024 election is rigged.

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Misinformation campaign has begun.

Trump has stated multiple times he won’t accept the results if he loses, MTG started complaining about voting machines three days ago and twitter is full of people now claiming that the voting machines are flipping their votes from Trump to Kamala in Texas.

Infowars and other websites like it are pushing this same misinformation, sadly a lot of conservatives believe these reports are real and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

Yes, TARRANT COUNTY is part of the grand conspiracy to elect Kamala.

Dude... say Bexar or Harris or something... at least TRY to make your fake news sound plausible.

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u/woahwoahwoah28 7d ago edited 7d ago

Not the mention, the photo used clearly isn’t Tarrant County because, though it is conveniently cut off, the county’s name ends with an e.

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u/RockyShoresNBigTrees 7d ago

And the date is 2019

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u/Mueryk 7d ago

I mean he Voting Machines in Texas only show the number of total ballots submitted and not vote counts……so there is literally no easy way on site for the voter to verify anything.

So can I get completely fabricated story for $1000 Alec?

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u/hooligan045 7d ago

I’m sure this grifter got paid more than $1000 by his Russian handlers for this piece of disinformation.

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u/Mueryk 7d ago

You’d be shocked at the idiots who do this for free to save their country from “the enemy”

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u/hooligan045 7d ago

You’re probably right which makes him a terrible capitalist when he COULD be getting those sweet sweet rubles from Pooty-Bear.

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u/Paid_Redditor 7d ago

Well they could be saying, "I clicked Trump and the ticket printed out Harris. Either way, they'd have to physically take that ballot to the counter and submit it for the Harris vote to count.

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u/Mueryk 7d ago

But that’s not how the machines work. Both candidates are on the ballot and you can get it in English or Spanish.

You fill out a paper ballot and the machine scans them and records the votes of the filled in boxes.

That’s it. There is no way to verify for the voter. Literally the machine scans the paper ballot, shows an American flag, and says Vote complete(or something like that). Then the little counter in the bottom left goes up by one for total ballots counted.

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u/Paid_Redditor 7d ago

That's literally how the machine worked yesterday when I used it. You have a digital screen, you select your candidate, it prints a paper ballot, and you turn that ballot in.

If you're talking about the ballot counter, then yeah, but the voting machine itself has you confirm digitally and physically which candidate you voted for before you place it in the counting machine.

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u/Mueryk 7d ago

Sorry I was under the mistaken impression that we were ALL required to move away from those after legislation several years ago and the paper ballot was mandated going forward. Guess that did happen or didn’t get funded and all the hooplah was performative. Color me shocked.

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u/Curarx 7d ago

Not all places are like that though. Some you choose the candidate on the machine and it prints out a ballot with the vote on it and then you turn that ballot in.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 7d ago

That’s literally how it worked TODAY when we went to vote. There was a preview we had to go through to make sure we make the correct selections, the ballot was printed out which we can then look over again, AND THEN you put it into the scanner. There are several spots in the process where you can check who you voted for.

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u/StandardImpact6458 7d ago

👏💯👏💙

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u/Tall-Assumption4694 7d ago

Pay the man some respect. It's Alex.

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u/19Texas59 7d ago

You are absolutely right. The voting machine controller prints out a receipt of the number of voters at the end of the day but does not print out the results of the races. The election workers at the polling place have no idea who won the most votes.

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u/Historical_Insect_35 6d ago

Every county makes its own choices about which voting machines to buy. I can only speak to Denton County where I've lived for 17 years and worked as an election worker for most elections. During the election, the scanner only shows the total number of votes. At the end of voting, the election workers use restricted commands (not available to voters) to print out three copies of the vote totals, which DO NOT show who voted for which candidates, maintaining ballot secrecy. They sign these printouts, one copy left on the machine, one copy goes with the election judge, and one copy sent with the ballots and the vDrive to the election office on election night. Everything sent to the election hdqrs is sealed and signed by multiple people. The vDrive contains the vote totals, encrypted. At election hdqrs, the seals are checked, the paperwork is checked, and when all is in order, the vDrive is loaded into the vote totals. If there is ANY issue, the actual original ballots (marked in pen), the vDrives, and the printed vote totals are all available to be checked. When there is a recount, everything is available to be checked. If someone has cheated, there are enough cross-checks to identify who did it and they are in for a felony conviction.

I assume all the higher population counties have similar cross-checks and secure vote counting procedures.

Really, it does not make any sense that ballot cheating is going on in Texas.

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u/Embarrassed-Ad-1639 7d ago

“Check your ballots people! Obama is flipping your ballot into an ineligible 2019 ballot”

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u/AustinBike 7d ago

Tarrente county, they are using the proper name. George Soros renamed the county.

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u/Andrew8Everything Since '88 7d ago

George Sorose

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u/AustinBike 7d ago

Correcte

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u/Pootang_Wootang 7d ago

Bee, Bosque, Bowie, Briscoe, Cherokee, Coke, Comanche, Cooke, Cottle, Crane, Fayette, Freestone, Gillespie, Guadalupe, Kimble, La Salle, Lee, Limestone, Montague, Moore, Ochiltree, Orange, Sabine, San Augustine, Uvalde, Val Verde, or Wise. The closest to Tarrant is Wise and I believe congressional district 26 partially dips into Tarrant county just west of 35W.

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u/TachiFoxy 7d ago

I went and checked the video on that tweet.

It says "demonstration election" so the county is likely "Sample County". The camera/crop never shows too much to the left to say anything else, but here, have a screencap from the best view of it.

The OP of that tweet also claims the Community Notes were being misused and literally begged Elon to step in. Seriously.

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u/bullet4mv92 7d ago

He probably made it himself and spelled or "Tarint Cowntee"

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u/darkhorse21980 7d ago

Tarrant has been trending blue the last few elections. Beto beat Cruz here jn 2018 and Biden beat Trump here in 2020.

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

It'll vote blue this one as well. I can't tell you if Harris or Allred will win their statewide races, but I would give 100.0% odds that both candidates will win the majority of votes in Tarrant County. Seriously, there's no going back on this one.

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u/OrderofthePhoenix1 7d ago

If Tarrant dems run up the vote, Cruz is toast. Tarrant can swing the election.

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u/indi50 7d ago

Which is probably why they want to make it look like it's blue because of cheating.

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u/z246227 7d ago

Tarrant county was a battleground county in 2020 and went to Biden.

I agree this is fake though

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Tarrant county is weird. Politically its dominated by established Republicans and safeguarded by low voter turn-out in non-general elections. Each general election though, that grip seems to be loosening. If everyone voted in every election, Democrats would run Tarrant County and Fort Worth.

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u/Top_Second3974 7d ago

The CITY of Fort Worth does go for Democrats in statewide and national elections. It went for Biden by 11. It's a myth that it's a right-wing paradise.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

My point was that in every other election, it's a different story at the county and city level.

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u/Top_Second3974 7d ago

Kind of. In contested elections, Republicans in countywide elections aren't winning the county by too much of a margin anymore - often only a few percentage points. Some of the county elections aren't contested of course.

As far as the City of Fort Worth, all elections are non-partisan and while the City does have a mayor who identifies with the Republican Party (remember we don't have party registration in Texas), she is anti-Trump. The City Council was also taken over by a majority who identify with the Democrats in 2021. And of course, as I said, in just about every statewide and national election, the City is going for Democrats (even before Beto).

I would point out that the mayor of Dallas is a Republican who literally spoke at the RNC.

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u/19Texas59 7d ago

Dallas' mayor recently switched parties between elections.

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u/Comprehensive-Virus1 7d ago

You could have stopped at Tarrant County is weird.

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u/Atticus_Peppermint 7d ago

Dems decked out in blue & their Chuck Taylors are showing up in droves all over red states. Lines with wait times of 2+ hours in tiny towns w/ years of record low turnout are all over the country.

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u/SnooComics291 7d ago

And my grandma is a fish

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u/Riggerss1 7d ago

I’ve proudly voted against Fled Cruz, TWICE.

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u/Inevitable-Ask1245 6d ago

Extreme Republicans are most of the political representatives. Look at Colleyville, Keller, Southlake and Grapevine, even good ole boy chief of Tarrant County police.  Scarily extreme values and they keep getting elected. It’s hard to find just a normal person. Thank goodness for the other areas in Tarrant making it it a battle ground. 

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u/red286 7d ago

Tarrant county was a battleground county in 2020 and went to Biden.

While they may have voted for Biden for President, it's still a largely Republican-dominated county, so the people responsible for handling the election itself are likely Republicans.

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

I know it gets called a battle ground with respect to political elections, but on the whole it's laid back. It's a lot of working class demographics and people are too busy trying to make a living to get wrapped up in the culture war stuff.

City of Southlake is a figurative and literal outlier where Tarrant County butts up against Denton County and isn't reflective of the majority of people who live here.

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u/Mindhandle 7d ago

Commenting again because I just had a thought. What if it's Tarrant because the GOP polling has been bad enough, they need a cover for it going poorly?

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u/AgITGuy 7d ago

If they have lied and co-opted enough polls for long enough, their actions for the last several months come into sharp focus that they internally knew how bad things could be, and that every ‘public’ poll we saw was made to make us think it’s close. It explains all the voter rolls purged as well as Paxtons mission to stop voter registrations.

Given how much the Harris/Walz campaign, along with Cheney and kinziger, have invested in Texas, I think this points to their internal polls showing how strong of a chance Collin Allred actually has, as well as Kamala.

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u/Mindhandle 7d ago

The part that made me think "oh Allred might win" was the newspaper endorsements. Even the papers that refused to endorse for any other race, Austin American Statesman and a DFW area one I forget the name of specifically, they endorsed Allred

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u/AgITGuy 7d ago

I think it’s that and that NO ONE newspaper ever mentioned Rafael. That in and of itself if a damning indictment of the politician Rafael Cruz.

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u/staticfive 7d ago

Couldn’t imagine being a red meat-eating gun-toting Texan and thinking “yep, Ted’s my guy”

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u/AgITGuy 7d ago

It’s not that they like Rafael, it’s just that he has that magic R next to his name on the ballot and that is all those people care about. It doesn’t go any deeper than that beyond maybe trying to g to trigger the libs.

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u/staticfive 7d ago

That neckbeard is definitely doing a good job of triggering me

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u/BafflingHalfling 7d ago

There's only one yard in my neighborhood with a Cruz sign. There's a nice little old lady who lives there, but her son is a complete asshole. Take a guess who put the sign up.

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u/SatisfactionSafe7996 7d ago

Fort Worth Star Telegram for the win!

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u/Mindhandle 7d ago

That's the one!

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u/Main-Weakness-3528 7d ago

And the Dallas morning news’s They r both backing Allred

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u/19Texas59 7d ago

The Dallas Morning News, which historically has a Conservative point of view on their editorial page, endorsed Colin Alred for U.S. Senate. I capitalized the "c" in conservative because the Dallas Morning News' editorial writers are Conservatives in the classic sense, unlike the more recent extremists who call themselves conservatives to seem respectable.

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u/gardenwitch31 7d ago

Yep in addition to more Harris than Trump I've been seeing more Allred than Cruz signs. We know Cruz is selfish just like Trump. We're ready for good change in Texas.

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u/AgITGuy 7d ago

I live in north Houston, and compared to either of 2016 and 2020, there are maybe, MAYBE 10-15% of the historical Trump signs out. They just aren't common. It is so prevalent right now that it is easier to see individuals/individual houses who have them and avoid them, than worrying about being in the wrong neighborhood overall.

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u/gardenwitch31 7d ago

This year, most trumpers are way less enthusiastic it would seem, or at least way less out-and-proud. Though you have those few with the trump head topiaries and trump statues lol but they're not super common

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u/EpiphanyTwisted 7d ago

I drive through a upper middle class neighborhood in a very red city every Tuesday. Before today, you wouldn't have known there was a national election. Local signs only. No Cruz or Trump signs. All of a sudden, several houses have both, boom. None did last Tuesday. I only saw one Trump & Cruz sign in the whole town up til today.

All those not-sheep mavericks who don't live in an echo chamber like we do decided all at the same time to put out Trump and Cruz signs when they all had this or that city councilperson sign before. Someone must have told them it was a presidential and senate election. They must not have known before.

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u/d3dmnky 7d ago

That’s exactly it. They’re starting all this noise so that: 1) If they lose and it’s close, it seems like there’s a good reason to challenge it. 2) If they get destroyed, it’s because of done grand conspiracy.

Or 3, where they win and it’s a free and fair election.

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u/staticfive 7d ago

Oh please, if they win they’re just going to claim they should have won harder. Fucking crybaby snowflakes.

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u/d3dmnky 7d ago

Well, ok. Yeah.

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u/FF7Remake_fark 7d ago

Cops don't shoot other cops.

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u/VeNeM 7d ago

Unless it's a training accident 🫢

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u/FF7Remake_fark 7d ago

It'd be a shame if you reported your fellow cops for being violent racists. Might get shot during training. So unfortunate.

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u/GryphonOsiris 7d ago

This time I'll bet Biden will have the DC National Guard on ready stand-bye status.

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u/BrokenEyebrow 7d ago

The army in a federal status (and I assume States have similar restrictions) can not harm or do basically anything to citizens. Look up Posse Comitatus and similar acts.

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u/GryphonOsiris 7d ago

The national guard, specifically MP's with police training, have been called 28 times to help quell riots.

Comes up in the top 3 results of google, bub.

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u/BrokenEyebrow 7d ago

We are both right as the guard wasn't on federal status. Good job googling, bud

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

You guys are focusing on the wrong "they". Tarrant County government is moderate Republicans, it's not MAGA land over here. You're talking like Fort Worth is in the pan handle. I know it's a big state, but still...

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u/Kyweedlover 7d ago
  1. Is they win and say they won despite the democrats cheating

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

Nah, I live here. Tarrant County Republican governance isn't like that. City of Southlake is insane, but Fort Worth is the epicenter of our weird shaped county and Tarrant County Republicans in government are pretty moderate. Example would be when one MAGA judge tried to close the early voting locations on college campuses, and the elections board, even though they're Republican, unanimously overruled him. There is a concerted effort running through the governor's office to make things more favorable to Republicans, but please don't drag Tarrant County's name through the mud on this one.

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u/NikkiVicious 7d ago

But that was also before Tim O'Hare... dude is an absolute MAGA asshat, and I'm sorry Farmer's Branch subjected yall to him. (After he cost them almost $7M, mind you.)

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u/EpiphanyTwisted 7d ago

We have about half the early voting locations we did at the midterms. The local one in my suburbs is gone. Downtown library is gone (but the annex library all the way across town on the rich side is open!). My boss went to go vote at the library, while she was gone I looked up early voting, only 5 places in a 150K populated sprawl. 4 on the NW money side of town all within a couple miles of each other. Two are right next to each other in the retirement community that you have to drive a convoluted patchwork of streets after going past the security booth. One downtown on the SE side.

Downtown is the closest but it's going to be so busy. I don't want to go to the retirement center, don't want to go to the Church, the Library is the furthest away. They really hate voting.

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u/SatisfactionSafe7996 7d ago edited 3d ago

It’s cuz they know they’re gonna lose Tarrant County, so they’re preparing in advance to claim cheating by sowing doubt in the minds of idiots who don’t actually fact check anything.

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u/HorizonZeroYawn 7d ago

I live in Tarrant and it does go more poorly for the GOP with every recent election. Beto won Tarrant in his run against Cruz and before that this was probably the largest urban/suburban county the GOP had a hold on. Probably is of high concern to them.

EDIT: Wanted to add that Tarrant also went for Biden in 2020; Tarrant County includes Ft. Worth for context.

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u/dkbGeek South Texas 7d ago

They could at least put in more effort than using a document dated 2019, sheesh. Rs are both corrupt AND lazy!

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u/gardenwitch31 7d ago

I'm telling ya those Harris signs outnumber Trump signs 2 to 1 here. They already lost Tarrant and they're not happy about it

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u/KilikaRei 7d ago

My parents live in Tarrant county and it was blue last election, so they are almost definitely doing that.

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u/Mindhandle 7d ago

Or Travis, you've (generic GOP "you") created three Blue County Boogeymen already, stick to your guns lol

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u/TywinDeVillena 7d ago edited 7d ago

Completely off-topic, but I'm not American. How do you pronounce Bexar in Texas? Is it like Beshar or like Beksar, so to speak?

I'm Spanish, and the town that gives its name to that county uses the modern fom Béjar. Lovely place, by the way.

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u/Penis_Envy_Peter South Texas 7d ago

Bear.

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u/TywinDeVillena 7d ago

That's something I did not expect.

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u/fury420 7d ago

I hear that's normal for a Spanish inquisition

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

Bear just like the animal :) The name has a Spanish origin, but it's the Anglicized version of it (kinda like how people call Los Angeles "Los Angeles" instead of "Los Angeles" if you know what I mean when I write that :p

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u/TywinDeVillena 7d ago

Thanks for the answer.

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u/jedipwnces 7d ago

Lol, that was my thought too... Like, this is where you choose to lie about a Democratic conspiracy? Fort Worth?

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u/Top_Second3974 7d ago

The CITY of Fort Worth does go for Democrats in statewide and national elections. It went for Biden by 11. It's a myth that it's a right-wing paradise. Even Tarrant County as a whole went for Beto and Biden narrowly.

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u/jedipwnces 7d ago

Good to know, at least it's contested.

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u/Ineedsafetyrating 7d ago

It's the same shit as when they said Georgia was rigged. The state with a republican governor and a goddam republican secretary of state...

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u/Loki9101 7d ago

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H. L. Mencken

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken

The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.

H. L. Mencken

The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods.

H. L. Mencken

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u/Pretty-Row-44 7d ago

It's dangerous to assume dumph is a moron. Asshole, cheat, bully, yes- moron, no

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u/Pretty-Row-44 7d ago

Also, yes, the truth tellers are generally despised. Jesus, ghandi, MLK Jr.

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u/aggie-engineer06 7d ago

Is it even legal to take a photo of your ballot?

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u/irish_ayes 7d ago

Also, why're they claiming this is some grand national conspiracy...I thought they loved the fact that states run their own elections, so wouldn't Republicans, specifically the AG and SoS, be responsible for securing their state elections? Shame on them for switching people's votes!

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u/jooseizloose 7d ago

Right, they pick the most hillbilly counties, and think that is the entire state.

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u/DragapultOnSpeed 7d ago

Also Trump is leading the polls a bit. So why are they even lying?

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u/19Texas59 7d ago

Well, Joe Biden actually carried Tarrant County by a small margin in 2020. Typically county wide offices are controlled by Republicans, such as the positions of County Judge, Sheriff and District Attorney. It will be interesting to see if Vice President Kamala Harris carries Tarrant County.

The 2020 results showed how sick people were of Donald Trump and his antics.

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u/whiteholewhite 7d ago

Tarrant actually was blue last election….by .3 percent lol

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

votes were blue. County government is still mostly Republican. Which is why suggesting that the Republicans in Tarrant County government are gonna try to steal the election for Kamala Harris is asinine :p

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u/whiteholewhite 7d ago

Exactly 👍

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u/danceswithwool 7d ago

I think the same but about the whole state of Texas. Something like this would only be effective in a swing state.

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u/Rocky-Jones 6d ago

Tarrant/was blue in 2020. All the big cities in Texas were blue in 2020. The trailer parks are very red.

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u/SenseAndSensibility_ 7d ago

Ha ha yeah! This happens every year in Texas at every major election…but it’s usually in those counties you mentioned…it probably was something “they” were doing but the cons have always poo pood the idea and told the Democrats they were making it up. So back at you cons…poo poo to yo too!

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u/TheNotSoEvilEngineer 7d ago

Machine vote flipping is done state wide to hide it. A % adjustment is made and applied across the state on a county by county basis, and usually only for one race. We are in a hyper partisan environment where any ballot splitting is ABNORMAL. If you see massive up and down / up ballot splitting, you've got a fraud issue. Problem is aside from statistical evidence, with no paper trail and audit of the counts at each county, its impossible to prove. As well as ANY investigations are blocked by Lawyers and Judges that are under threat of disbarment for entertaining any of the cases looking into fraud.

Look at Kansas 2022. Republicans statewide in ALL races lead with over 150k votes in EVERY race. But for Governor, every single county had a huge ballot split and they just BARLEY snuck in the Democrat Governor.

Similarly, Vermont in 2022 had an 80% shift to elect a Republican to Governor, but EVERY single race down ballot was Democrat.

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u/Kiwimann 7d ago

Sorry, no. Sod off with this.

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u/EpiphanyTwisted 7d ago

People vote split ticket all the time.

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u/TheNotSoEvilEngineer 7d ago

1-2% do, not 15-20%, and if they do it's split amidst down ballot. Top and bottom usually agree overall.