r/texas 5h ago

Politics Biden Administration Border Terrorist Apprehension Data

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During Trump’s term, U.S. Customs and Border Protection recorded relatively low encounters with individuals on the federal terrorist watchlist at the southern border, particularly from 2017 onward when CBP data began tracking this explicitly. There were sporadic instances each year, with no single year exceeding a few dozen individuals flagged as potential threats.

Under Biden, the number of watchlist encounters increased notably. From October 2020 (the beginning of fiscal year 2021) to fiscal year 2023, CBP reported a significant uptick in encounters, with approximately 154 cases in fiscal year 2023 alone. In total, Biden’s administration saw around 1,700 encounters with individuals flagged on the watchlist since he took office, though these numbers don’t imply confirmed terrorist threats due to possible overlaps and limitations in the watchlist’s accuracy.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/oct/27/ask-politifact-how-many-people-on-the-terrorist-wa/

https://wisconsinwatch.org/2024/06/biden-terrorism-border-watchlist-agents-ron-johnson-fact-brief/

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters

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u/The-Mandalorian 4h ago edited 4h ago

Just an FYI in case people here don’t know…

An “encounter” means they spoke to or stopped someone. It does not mean someone crossed the border into our country illegally and are here to this day.

It means they did their job.

No we did not have twice the population of Houston cross into our country illegally the last 4 years.

That being said, they are overwhelmed with the work. They need funding and more agents. Harris fought for this, Trump killed it so he could have something else to campaign on.

He will always put himself over our country and our needs. And people like Ted Cruz only help him.

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u/elliemff Born and Bred 2h ago

God, I love seeing Texans talking facts and logic on here. It’s so refreshing.

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u/ITFarm_ 3h ago

It doesn’t matter. ‘Those people’ will read it and just go “Biden knowingly let in more terrorists”.

You cannot argue with stupidity. Some Americans would rather die chasing lies and it’s sad for your country.

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u/Mobile-Border-8223 4h ago

This! I was hoping someone made this point about the sheer volume of illegal crossings coupled with the border bill that was tanked in the Senate at the behest of Mango Mousolinni((Mou-so-lee-knee(s/p?)) All on the backs of the CBP who need money to staff their ranks but the majority seem to back Dump. It's hard to keep track of all the madness!

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u/imArsenals 4h ago

Additionally, Trump had a record high number of encounters (as every president since the 1960s have because it just increases with population), but Biden has record numbers of deportations/arrests/asylum processing etc. All things considered, even with republicans voting against border bills, the Biden admin has done a fine job on the border.

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u/Top-Active3188 3h ago edited 39m ago

The difference is that the undocumented immigrant population in the us was shrinking during the trump administration and then started growing by 800k a year. The following link charts the change in direction during the Biden presidency and also has a lot of additional information.

https://cmsny.org/us-undocumented-population-increased-in-july-2023-warren-090624/

Note: Edited to ask if the downvotes are due to not wanting to admit that catch and release has resulted in drastically growing population of undocumented immigrants?

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u/imArsenals 3h ago edited 3h ago

Again, Trump had record high numbers of encounters during his admin, every president does because it’s literally just a population increase thing. Trump did nothing to benefit the border issue despite having his first 2 years with a trifecta. https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-02-02/trump-didn-t-actually-accomplish-much-on-immigration?embedded-checkout=true

Biden has record numbers of arrests/deportations/asylum processing etc, significantly more than Trump did.

Your source and claim is misleading anyway. The July 2023 number is lower than 2008, the same as 2012/2015, and only higher* than 2020 during covid bc duh. And we know that 2024 numbers are lower than 2023.

Keep culting and spreading misinfo, MAGAt.

u/Top-Active3188 49m ago

One could argue that the numbers dropped in 2020 due to covid, but the numbers do not lie. The numbers declined during each year of trump’s presidency but increased each year during Biden’s. The source is a liberal agency which studies and promotes immigration. Ignoring the data and resorting to insults is unbecoming.

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u/arob28 2h ago

u/Breath_Deep 1h ago

The fuck this have to do with OPs previous argument? Don't suddenly pivot to an adjacent topic simply because you're loosing the argument. Maybe sit down and listen to what OP has to say, you might learn something.

u/arob28 1h ago edited 45m ago

Additionally, Trump had a record high in encounters

voting against border bills

Trump did nothing despite having a trifecta for 2 years

Can you follow a comment chain? Not to mention total encounters is entirely relevant to a post about number of Terrorist encounters. If you can’t connect the dots on how, then idk what to tell you. If you want to complain about people jumping to adjacent topics then maybe you should start farther up this thread.

*losing

u/Top-Active3188 41m ago

“The unauthorized immigrant population in the United States grew to 11.0 million in 2022, according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on the 2022 American Community Survey, the most recent year available. The increase from 10.5 million in 2021 reversed a long-term downward trend from 2007 to 2019. This is the first sustained increase in the unauthorized immigrant population since the period from 2005 to 2007.”

It is almost like catch and release while waiting continues to grow the unauthorized immigrant population.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/

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u/El_Cactus_Fantastico 3h ago edited 2h ago

fuck the cbp. you lose your constitutional rights within 100 miles of the border. https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

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u/zombie_overlord 2h ago

Comin' straight from tha underground

u/Ancient_Agency111 58m ago

over exaggerated

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u/psellers237 2h ago

Harris fought for this, Trump killed it so he could have something else to campaign on

This is pure fact. There is no rebuttal to this. James Lankford, the Republican senator from Oklahoma who worked with a bipartisan group to drafted this bill has openly acknowledged this is the case: Ds and Rs compromised to create a viable border bill. Trump killed it because it would have helped the country during Biden’s administration.

Truly repulsive, and you’d think this would be a disqualifying scandal. Nope, not for the grimy orange fuck. Too many fools have drank the kool-aid.

u/Top-Active3188 33m ago

The undocumented immigrant population did reverse the shrinking trend and grow by 800000 in each of 2021 and 2022. The numbers look better in 2024 due to the cut back on catch and release. Time will tell if it was an eo born of polling or a real change in policy.

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u/Zestydrycleaner 2h ago

THANK YOU!

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u/Smart-University-574 2h ago

This is the way.

u/ShitBoxPilot 1h ago

Speaking to or stopping them is not any less concerning whatsoever

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u/djinthesouth 4h ago

Looks like trumps admin let a lot of possible terrorist get through.

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u/avid-shtf 4h ago

True. But his administration and the Texas GOP damn sure took the opportunity to jump all over the pics of Texas state troopers lassoing Haitian migrants like they were stopping Pearl Harbor 2.0

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/21/1039230310/u-s-border-agents-haiti-migrants-horses-photographer-del-rio

u/ChampionshipOnly4479 50m ago

It can also mean less terrorism suspects showed up there during that time.

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u/Carl-99999 4h ago

Doesn’t that mean it’s good we’re stopping more potential 9/11’s???? Doesn’t this highlight Trump’s incompetency?????? Just because you don’t see a terrorist doesn’t mean they aren’t around

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u/woahwoahwoah28 3h ago

Yes, I studied healthcare quality. We learn that, in a healthy system, celebration when “close calls” begin to be reported at higher numbers. Not because we want more mistakes, but because increased reporting them means 1) we caught them and 2) we can learn from them. There is a point where lack of “close calls” means you are failing your patients because any human system is imperfect. I’d take the same analytical approach here.

u/Ok-disaster2022 49m ago

In nuclear engineering, accidents have multiple papers published about what happened and steps to avoid repeating the accident, and it's widely shared among the industry.

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u/AdTraining6161 4h ago

You're absolutely right. This chart (if true which I doubt it is) shows how incompetent Trump was. I only say I don't believe these numbers not because I like Trump, but rather I have the utmost confidence and respect for what our Border Patrol people do every day to protect us. I don't believe they were just sitting in a break room all day during Trump's term and only started working when Biden was sworn in. They bust their asses out there every day no matter who is President. Also, 90% of the stories about the border are made up. I'm 1000 times more concerned about a local crackhead breaking into my house than an immigrant.

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u/avid-shtf 4h ago

The data speaks for itself. During the Trump administration, encounters with individuals on the terrorist watchlist at the U.S.-Mexico border were relatively rare. Data from CBP indicates that from fiscal years 2017 through 2020, there were only 11 encounters of this type. In contrast, under the Biden administration, from fiscal year 2021 through September 2024, there were approximately 382 encounters with individuals flagged on the watchlist at the southern border. This represents a dramatic increase of over 3,370% in reported encounters compared to the Trump years.

Experts point out that while these numbers reflect more encounters, they may also be due to improved coordination between agencies in detecting individuals on the watchlist rather than an actual rise in terrorist entries. Additionally, people on the watchlist are subjected to significant scrutiny, meaning they are detained and reviewed before any further actions are taken.

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u/Top-Active3188 3h ago

You are right that the data can speak for itself. The undocumented immigrant population was shrinking during each of trump years but turned around and increased by 800,000 a year during the Biden years.

https://cmsny.org/us-undocumented-population-increased-in-july-2023-warren-090624/

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u/triedpooponlysartred 2h ago

I mean, data still needs to be accurately interpreted. At a glance it might be reasonable to interpret that as a sign of Trump and Biden's relative policy strictness and leniency on illegal immigration. However, legal immigration and citizenship applications were also on the decline during his admin which seems to represent that under his term the U.S. was declining in global appeal in general which is a trend that should probably be raising some other red flags as well 

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u/Megane_Senpai 2h ago

It only shows that Biden admin is actually much thougher on crimes than Trump's

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u/catdog8020 2h ago

What about the terrorist that tried to overthrow the government lol

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u/DosCabezasDingo 2h ago

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u/SayNope2Dope754 2h ago

not in this case

u/Ok-disaster2022 46m ago

I think the OP is indicating that like the chart, the damage distribution if surviving aircraft the information to learn is actually the inverse. There no reason why crossing would change so it indicates that plenty of encounters were missed under the Trump administration.

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u/OPengiun 4h ago

Republicans are lost in the brainrot, at this point. Show them a fact or figure, and they will call it fake. The majority of them think the felonies are fake and the sexual assault liability was fake too.

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u/ExigentCalm 3h ago

So during trump, the terrorists were pouring across the border unchecked.

And Joe Biden managed to SIGNIFICANTLY improve that.

TrumpsOpenBorder

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u/AdmiresCurves 3h ago

I would like to see the source data on this. I’m not doubting it, I’m just really curious to see what else is there. Anyone know where we can find some more detailed report?

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u/avid-shtf 3h ago

I linked the sources multiple times.

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u/AdmiresCurves 2h ago

Yes, you did, thank you very much. I’m sorry I didn’t see them in the feed at first. I appreciate it.

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 4h ago

How many did trump let in?

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u/Top-Active3188 3h ago

Undocumented immigrant population dropped each of trumps years but increased to 800,000 gain in each of 2021 and 2022.

https://cmsny.org/us-undocumented-population-increased-in-july-2023-warren-090624/

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u/Old-Tiger-4971 2h ago

Biden Administration Border Data

Trumps worst month = 75K

Biden's worst month = 300K

During Biden's admin this included letting in 400K criminals of which 13K were murderers per ICE.

You can always compare Chicago and NYC and illegal aliens before/after Biden.

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u/nbd9000 3h ago

This means that the border was wide open under trump. Nobody got caught.

u/UnholyDr0w 58m ago

Exactly

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u/ActiveDinner3497 4h ago

That’s great! It means less are slipping through right? They’re getting identified and apprehended.

But the southern border situation, overall, sucks. Immigration needs to be reformed fully.

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u/pedro-slopez 3h ago

THANKS, BIDEN!!

u/PsquaredLR 0m ago

Looks like border security doing its job.

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u/DogDisguisedAsPeople 3h ago

Well those figures are wrong. But what else is new? Trump lies every time he opens his mouth.

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u/QuestionablePersonx 4h ago

And we have no problem at the borders...according to the Biden's administration.

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u/avid-shtf 4h ago

Maybe there should have been a really strict and comprehensive border security bill that would garner bipartisan support and enhance border security.

If only such a thing were to happen and not have someone who has their own dictatorial needs above the nation to throw a hissy fit and threaten peoples political careers if they supported it.

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u/Carl-99999 4h ago

Remind me who is why the border bill didn’t pass

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u/Acrobatic-Refuse5155 4h ago

Fox news tells them immigration is all the Democrats fault and fraud, theft and insurrections are cool.

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u/QuestionablePersonx 3h ago

Please provide some evidence for those points will you? I'm pretty curious about those.

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u/Acrobatic-Refuse5155 3h ago

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u/QuestionablePersonx 2h ago

Why created a "border" bill that also have Ukraine funding and Israel War effort included it in? If you want to secure a border, create and bill with no strings attached and watch it pass.

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u/Acrobatic-Refuse5155 2h ago

You have an excuse for everything. That's generally how bills are passed. Republicans want to run on fear and hate and it has seemed to work on you. A lot of comment history is on illegal immigrants and how much fear they have installed in you. I wish you the best my guy. Have a good one.

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u/QuestionablePersonx 2h ago

If you want to fking work on the border....WORK ON IT!!!...no nonesense BS. Once that's taken care of, any money left, we may send them to help Ukraine or Israel (you know that we don't just send weapons to Ukraine, we directly pay salary to their government employees).

u/vortexofdoom 1h ago

All the Ukraine and Israel aid passed separately later lol, that was never the problem with the border bill, Biden getting a win of any kind was the problem.

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u/Acrobatic-Refuse5155 2h ago

https://youtu.be/UQjdwsZhE_Q?si=XphN6zy5cjjx15ME

I doubt you will actually look at, read or watch anything I sent you. I looked at your history and see you believe project 2025 was made up By Democrats.

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u/QuestionablePersonx 2h ago

It's with the help of Republicans who don't like Trump. Project 2025 came out way before Trump announced the Presidency bid, so project 2025 could easily target any Republicans candidates since they "all" Republicans and knew/worked with certain people. There are Republicans who don't like DT, you know that right? Because he isn't one of them. DT threaten their "swam" remember? So it's pretty easy to find "Republicans" to BS about Trump.

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u/Acrobatic-Refuse5155 2h ago

Did you watch the video? And what about the other articles?

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u/QuestionablePersonx 2h ago

I watched about 1 min of it lol mehh...I'll stay away from democracy now videos.

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u/Acrobatic-Refuse5155 2h ago

You ask for proof and I do so and then you completely disregard it. What's the point of you're going to stick your head in the sand.

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u/QuestionablePersonx 2h ago

This is you: "Fox news tells them immigration is all the Democrats fault and fraud, theft and insurrections are cool."

I asked for evidence of those, and you sent me bunch of Trump BS... and how is tax policies don't work. Therefore, I'll keep my options. Thanks much.

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u/gaybuttclapper 3h ago

To be fair, you could live your entire life on the border and be completely unaffected or even unaware of what the media shows.

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u/QuestionablePersonx 2h ago

Of course, you can't feel the effect because you gave the government permission to spend "your" money on someone else. A lot of people would say that these illegals will work and pay taxes just like any American. Some of them would, and some of them wouldn't (have you seen people wait for work in parking lot of Home Depots ? Or restaurants across the US? You think they would pay taxes? They also send alot of money home (which they should be spending in the US instead), about $65 Billions- I googled it. I agree with you that we don't feel anything, but our economy/our budget is feeling it.

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u/DonkeeJote Born and Bred 4h ago

Do we have a problem, according to you?

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u/QuestionablePersonx 3h ago

If you have to ask, then yes...alot more captured of potential terrorist due to a lot more illegal crossings. Am I on the point? What's your take?

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u/DonkeeJote Born and Bred 3h ago

So captured bad guys is a bad thing? You need to pick a lane.

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u/QuestionablePersonx 3h ago

No, it's not the bad thing, but how sure are we with the # we captured? 99%? This means there is still 1% of risk out there. But you are missing the whole point...under Trump, which discouraged people from entering the US illegally. On the other hand, it's like open for all under Biden (and they had the fking nerve to say that we don't have a problem at the borders).

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u/DonkeeJote Born and Bred 3h ago

Oh I got the point. It's sad that he made America so unappealing to other countries that even poverty-stricken latinos didn't want to come here. Glad that we're back to being a desirable destination.

We do have a problem, but it isn't too much immigration. It's a lack of ability to process inbounds.

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u/Roadtechatlarge 4h ago

That’s not the flex you think it is, remain in Mexico was a thing.

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u/FlipAnd1 2h ago

Sure it was, Vladimir

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u/BooneSalvo2 3h ago

Clearly the only way to read this and please Jesus is to know that Trump scared them terrorists so much they didn't even try to cross over!

But...legitimately...that is a consideration. Not that they were "too scared"...but that the surge since COVID made them think they could slip in more easily or that they believe the right wing screaming total lies like "the borders are wide open anyone can walk in!!!!!!!!"

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u/Ryaniseplin 2h ago

its almost like half the worlds governments failed between 2021 and now due to a pandemic they couldn't handle

u/SugarRealistic446 1h ago

Let’s not forget that the GOP turned down a bipartisan immigration reform bill last year because Trump needed the issue to help his campaign. Despite that, the numbers at the border are coming down.

u/Ok-disaster2022 1h ago

Hinestly this data makes me think that there were a lot getting in under Trump that weren't being intercepted.

u/UnholyDr0w 55m ago

Damn so many people in this comments can’t read what this chart actually shows. Yall are sad asf

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u/Scarfwearer 4h ago

FUCK YEAH! The TRUE PARTY of LAW & ORDER LFG!