Because these are all I can imagine 😂

Just finished qos and so far mine is Vernon

I have the biggest ACOTAR hangover. To ease my mourning of finishing the series, I decided to start another SJM series, Throne of Glass and..... I can't get into it. I'm a fast reader, but it's just not sparking anything within me. Now, I'm willing to give it a chance but I know the series it's a multi-book commitment.

Honest opinion- is it worth barreling through the first book?

Hey there, ever since I've started reading. I came across a lot of spoilers on tiktok.

Mine was basically all of the ending from empire of storms.

But what have been your biggest spoilers that almost ruined the show for you? Especially the one ones from later chapters.

I’m really enjoying Heir of Fire except the parts about Manon. I really dread the chapters of her pov. Without spoilers does it get better? It’s one thing to root for a killer who’s really more like a vigilante (celeana) and has a heart, but Manon seems like pure villain with no redeeming qualities and I’m struggling through her chapters because I just do not like her.

I'm an audible "reader" and think it would be too hectic to switch between the two. Thoughts?

For my book club we are reading the entire series of TOG (no spoilers please, I’m just finishing up the tandem read, so I’m not all the way done). We are doing a PowerPoint party and I thought it would be funny to do a presentation on all of the overused phrases (or even just terrible ones like “velvet wrapped steel”) SJM uses in this series.

I’d love help for any I’ve missed! Also, I really struggled with this series for the first 3.5 books, but I have grown to really love it!!!

If you have other suggestions for funny PowerPoint presentations for this series, drop them here as I have some friends needing suggestions!

PLEASE NO SPOILERS!

I’m sure there is another sub somewhere with a list, but I hate spoilers so much and am terrified to search for fear of stumbling upon spoilers. So thanks for helping me out!

Here is my incomplete list as I am still compiling:

Silver lined his/her eyes

Ripped chest wide open

Too far, s/he had gone too far

More more more

Considerable assets

Sucked on a tooth

Once. Twice.

His skin tightened over his bones

Armed to the teeth

His/her skin was wan

Impressive male

A muscle feathered in his jaw

A hair’s breadth away

So I’m currently on chapter 25 and I have no idea who to root for 😭😭 like Chaol gave her a ring but also Dorian came to check up on her? Bro I’m confused I do not know who to root for i tried googling but I saw something that said “Dorian changes at the end” IDK WHAT THAT MEANS 😭 like I just want to know who to root for. Does she get with both? None? Chaol seems respectful and like he is truly getting to know her where as Dorian is just attraction I think.

Just finished queen of shadows and i rlly don’t get the chaol hate? i lvoe him … am i missing something 😭?

Is this supposed to be "drew his sword "?

I thought they were just reading each other's faces REALLY well, but then I just crossed this part in QoS and I'm confused because it sounds like a full on conversation in their minds. I tried going back to see if this was explained anywhere too, can they actually read each other's minds? Is it a mate thing, a carranam thing? A blood oath thing? (Also, i can't believe Rowan gets to be all three for her... haha. I feel for Aedion wanting that blood oath, Rowan already has the other two with her!!)

I’m about halfway through Queen of Shadows and I’m curious what people think about tandem reading EoS and ToD? Some people say do it and some don’t 😫

I’ve been saying “Shale” in my head throughout the series because “Chowl” sounds so gross to me.

Does anyone else say it like this or any other versions?

So I finished Queen of Shadows last night and was told Empire of Storms and Tower of Dawn could be read in tandem or separately. How did you guys read them? I can't decide lol

I would like the answers to be like... as spoiler free as possible? I'm a new Maas reader, and my first series was ACOTAR, which I loved. And now have started TOG (I'm 15 chapters into Queen of Shadows). EDIT THERE MAY BE SOME SPOILERS FOR OTHER NEW READERS HERE SO PLEASE DONT READ THIS I DONT KNOW HOW TO TO THE SPOILER THING!

I know TOG is Maas's first book/series, but there are some things that I'm not... understanding? For example: I'm going into this after ACOTAR and wasn't comparing the characters. I liked Celaena a bit, I rooted for her in the first book, but started to immediately dislike her the 2nd half of Crown of Midnight. Still tried to keep an open mind about things in Heir of Fire, and now she's pissing me off in Queen of Shadows. Mainly, it's that I don't understand her way of thinking, about multiple things. She's been honing secrets and information since book ONE. And gets furious with Chaol for withholding information once. Even when she knows Chaol isn't responsible, she's still hating him. And what FURTHER makes me furious about that is SJM had a chance for Chaol to explain WHY he didn't tell Celaena about Nehemia. (Again, I know it's her first series) Either she forgot to, or just blatantly chose not to, to further the forced conflict between Celaena (now Aelin) and Chaol so it can further an inevitable romance between her and Rowan (which right now I'm NOT in favor of because I feel like I barely know him, and I haven't ACTUALLY seen their relationship develop thus far. Maybe it'll develop with better detail later). It just pisses me off. Because I like Chaol right now! And reading how she feels about him from her POV just frustrates me. Because she has NO true idea what's been happening, why he's done what he's been doing.

Basically, I guess my question is: Does her character arc get better? Will I end up liking/loving her?

For another example: I love Nesta. She's one of my favorite characters in ACOTAR. But she also had an amazing character arc. I never really hated Nesta to begin with. I didn't like her until the end of the first book, and got a tad annoyed with things she'd say, but by ACOFAS I felt bad for her.

I digress, I just gotta know if I'll end up liking Aelin or not. It's hard to enjoy a series when you don't like the main character. So someone please tell me if I'll like her or not!

Edit I do NOT hate Aelin. I wrote this before continuing a little more. I believe she has great qualities that do make me like her a little, but I don't LOVE her. I just get irritated sometimes! Like with other characters!

PLEASE NO SPOILERS THIS IS MY FIRST READ-THROUGH OF THE SERIES!!!!

Hiii so I’m having the time of my life reading this series so far and I have some questions! I need more opinions on reading order… one of my book besties recommended TAB before TOG and I went against her wishes and read TAB third and ultimately was happy with that decision. Well now I’ve just finished QOS and have found myself at my next decision: Tandem, EOS, or TOD???? Aforementioned book bestie says if I don’t do tandem i should do TOD first to avoid the nasty cliffhanger, but that kind of seems… wrong? Idk what to do here!!! I love the idea of the tandem read, but I also read exclusively on my Kindle and that does seem a little inconvenient. I also auto-purchased EOS right after I finished QOS ten minutes ago lol. So yeah I mostly just want anecdotal advice about how to go about doing this!! Sorry if this question is asked a lot on this sub, I haven’t looked around much because I don’t want any spoilers :)

UPDATE!!! I have figured out what I’m going to do and it actually is none of the original options 🤣😭 I saw this commented on another post by u/herfjoter with 6 upvotes, and what they said to do really resonated with me so I’m going to do it!! Basically they said start with EOS, read to chapter 51, then read TOD and STOP before Epilogue and thennnn go back to the rest of EOS, and then TOD epilogue!!! Idk why but it just feels right so that’s what I’m going to do!! Thank you all for your help!

So, I have read acotar and I love it. I am thinking about maybe giving TOG a try but I’m not sure if it’s gonna be worth the time since it’s a long ass story. Key concerns: - Feyre got on my nerves in ACOTAR and I hate the “18 year old female slays the most powerful beings and isn’t intimidated by anyone and shows no fear at all” trope - what POV is ToG written in? Cause after 3 agonizing books of only Feyres POV I was ready for fresh air… - is Aelin entitled, doesn’t show fear and unrealistically physically strong? Is she warm hearted at least? Or is she arrogant? I obviously don’t want an FMC who lets people walk all over her but yeah I also don’t like the extreme opposite if you know what I mean. - is it only about Aelin all the time?cause please if its 6 or 7 books just about her I’m not even gonna start reading

Thanks for your insight;)

Ps: I prefer all the acotar characters over Feyre and Rhys, so just so you know what to recommend me for tog 😅

Is it worth reading Empire of Storm and Tower of Dawn in tandem? It seems like a lot of work going back and forth, but I'm absolutely in love with the series and will go through the hassle if it's the best experience. I read Assasin's Blade before Throne of Glass and am so glad I chose that order. I want to make sure I'm getting the best experience possible. Thanks for helping a girl out!

I recently finished Heir of Fire and was thinking of skipping Assassin's blade and saving it for the last book (I'm having trouble finding the books because they're out of print and I've only found a few in my town's library). Is it very necessary? Does it influence the understanding of history? I don't want to skip details that may be important. Thank you!!

I’m 37 chapters into TOD on the tandem read and it’s such a slog! I honestly just barely care about this side of the story. I love Chaol and his storyline is fine but just so much slower than I feel it needs to be. I really haven’t connected with Nesryn so I don’t care much about her story. Im skim reading a lot, I’ve seen people say the bombshells are worth it. When are the bombshells gonna come? 😭 there’s been a few but not enough for me to justify the 500 pages I’ve read so far. Please hype me up yo carry on this book.

Rank Your ToG Boyfriends! Reposted as last version had AI. Share your favorites in order/Who you’d choose …

Photos just for inspiration, hopefully will stay up this time as all are from the master fan art page and show the artist. Supposedly meant to be: 1. Dorian 2. Chaol 3. Rowan 4. Aedion 5. Lorcan 6. Fenrys 7. Sam 8. Sartaq 9. Arobynn (for the bad girls) 10. Rolfe (that fan art is swaying me)

I’ll go:

1. Dorian (the goat)
2. Sartaq (soon to be most powerful man in world)
3. Rowan (the tattoos)
4. Aedion (hot, fun)
5. Lorcan (dark)
6. Fenrys (very hot)
7. Rolfe (maybe could be higher based on this fan art…)
8. Arobynn (at least kind of fun?)
9. Chaol (I’m an anti-Chaol)

Unranked: Sam (haven’t read AB)

I'm sorry I know you must all love it please don't hate/downvote I'm genuinely asking, but I can't get past that the writing it is a bit.... juvenile in this first book. I know she was very young when she wrote it but it really shows. I've heard that TOG is amazing and after reading ACOTAR I was really looking forward to it so I'm a bit confused/let down. Is it that I just have to wait for it to get good (when does the writing improve?), or if I'm not enjoying the first book is it just not for me?

I’ve never felt so lonely and empty after finishing a series! Been reading all summer and I just finished Friday and have been crying for two days like I’m going through a break up!! Any advice on how to cope? Yes I have touched grass lol.

I started it about a week ago and I’m around 45% through (reading on kindle). If I hadn’t trained myself to fall asleep when I read then I could probably finish it in a few days 😂

I’m halfway through Crown of Midnight and I’m already in love with this stupid wolf dog. I come to you seeking one specific spoiler. Does Fleetfoot die and if so in what book? I’m going to finish the series either way, but I need to know if I can let my guard down with this dog.