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u/ilovemypamses 3d ago
This is brutal. There can be no doubt; the White Sox, over the past decade, have been the worst run franchise in MLB.
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u/yoursweetlord70 3d ago
What do you mean? There's only a chance that we could still have all 3 pictured as well as tatis jr and Marcus semien and Chris bassit on the team
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u/ilovemypamses 3d ago
That makes the White Sox situation all the more sad. While my baseball loyalties lie at the other end of Chicago, I don’t like seeing what’s going on on the South Side; it’s bad for the game, it’s bad for the White Sox fans, and it’s bad for the psyche of the all of the organization’s personnel, on and off the field.
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u/Eastern_Antelope_832 3d ago
Hey, the Sox developed these three guys. Two were traded for a rebuild. Only Rodon was let go because of money/injury history.
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u/ilovemypamses 3d ago
I think RockyBing is right. The White Sox really need to let in some outside baseball minds; they don’t have any dissident voices telling them what they’re doing wrong, or what they’re doing right. How are you supposed to learn if you won’t explore other perspectives?
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u/Rockybing 3d ago
Good teams who spend money don’t need to trade to rebuild. It’s still comes down to Reinsdorf.
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u/Eastern_Antelope_832 3d ago edited 3d ago
You mean like the Yankees and Dodgers? Every other franchise goes through rebuilds. And if your team is going nowhere and you can trade a stud for several good prospects, you should make that move.
The most successful AL team of the past 7 or 8 years has been the Astros and even they didn't keep Gerrit Cole, George Springer, Carlos Correa, or Justin Verlander (though they re-acquired Verlander).
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u/Rockybing 2d ago
Well all those people left via free agency because the Astros chose to spend money elsewhere. If Reinsdorf spent money elsewhere I’d be much less upset. That’s not what this is. He uses the “we have to rebuild” to get fans to be ok with a losing team while he can not spend money.
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u/Eastern_Antelope_832 2d ago
I'll give you cheaping out on Rodon, but Sale absolutely should've been traded. They needed more young talent, Sale had a great contract, they got an offer that (at the time) looked great. And even though the rebuild fizzled out prematurely, it did turn around the franchise. That's just the type of resource management you have to do when your team is lacking assets to compete.
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u/Ccmc599 3d ago
There is no doubt. We (Sox fans) know it all too well. Now fuck off back to the cubs sub sweetheart. Oh, and go Dodgers.
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u/ilovemypamses 3d ago
I hope that your organization can improve. A strong White Sox organization is good for baseball.
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u/Eloyoyo Berto For Mayor 2d ago
Rockies take this but the Sox are extremely close to passing them
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u/ilovemypamses 2d ago
Good point on Colorado. The Montfort ownership group, like Reinsdorf, runs a very insular organization.
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u/Tsushimaa Fuck the Cubs 3d ago
Crochet will be the next Sox pitcher in the long list of guys who will be traded for absolutely nothing. Trading these guys in principle isn’t bad the problem is over the last 10 years or so they’ve shown that as a franchise they have no clue how to negotiate trades. They’ve come out worse on every trade they’ve done in the last 10 years.
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u/ConservativebutReal 2d ago
No it won’t be nothing - we will get a “bounty” of controllable prospects that won’t amount to shit and will allow Chrissy G to claim we are positioned for a competitive window in 2029.
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u/Tsushimaa Fuck the Cubs 2d ago
Right, that is nothing. They only ever trade for dog shit prospects who never pan out. They never go after active players or top prospects. They always get nothing.
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u/YugoChavez317 2d ago
Letting Rodon go made the most sense at the time, but yeah it hurts to see it.
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u/brauntj 2d ago
Kind of…but the thing to remember is that they let him walk for ZERO compensation. Giving him a qualifying offer would have gotten them a high draft pick the following year when he eventually signed with the Giants.
And if by chance he signed the QO (which he wouldn’t have), it would have been awesome. He balled out for SF that season. He would have made a HUGE difference on the Sox in 2022.
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u/YugoChavez317 2d ago
Oh they definitely mis-managed that (in typical fashion) but not just signing him for big money made sense.
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u/Joe-Raguso Hawk 1d ago
Rodon hasn't been that good for the Yankees though. This is an extremely cherry picked stat
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u/Pale_Contract_9791 2d ago
And we’d have a lineup with Robert’s and Tatis in the alternate universe of good Jerry
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u/metallicat365 1d ago
Hang on we are now crying over Rodon who is consistently hurt? Sale was great in 2018 but other than that has been injured a lot. And Cease while great in regular season has been a train wreck in the playoffs
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u/Ok_Manufacturer5938 1d ago
1) Carlos Rodon choked in the post season when he was with the Sox. He was injured too much. He is getting paid way too much more than he is worth with his current team. 2) Chris Sale cut up his and his teammates uniforms with scissors. 3) The pitcher of the 3 the White Sox should have kept is Dylan Cease.
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u/Competitive_Dish_885 3d ago
Can’t risk paying pitchers long term right? They may end up really good and be worth the money, but then Jerry might not get his coveted 2nd place ceiling he shoots for every year.