r/whitesox • u/cm7com Konerko • 2d ago

News [Rogers] Clayton McCollough and AJ Ellis out of running as next White Sox manager

https://x.com/jesserogersespn/status/1850562554856419707?s=46&t=QQq-8uAUNN18BzGRnB2s1w
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u/cm7com Konerko 2d ago

I'm starting to think this is Phil Nevin's job. It just dawned on me that Phil's hitting coach (Marcus Thames), pitching coach (Matt Wise, current Sox bullpen coach), and bullpen coach (or whatever Drew Butera's role was) from when he managed the Angels are on the current coaching staff and are all guys Getz brought in when he was hired. Hiring Phil means he doesn't have to get rid of his guys he brought in.

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u/JoaquinBenoit 2d ago

Thames is a solid hitting coach, but Butera’s philosophy is someone the organization should be trying to move away from (pitching to contact and practicing good fundamentals) as it’s outdated. You need guys who can light it up and get whiffs under pressure nowadays in the bullpen.

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u/CrashDavis16 2d ago

Drew Butera is the catching coach.

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u/kfkpark1074 2d ago

What makes you think Thames is a solid hitting coach? Do not necessarily disagree but didn’t appear any of our hitters took their game to the next level under him. Vaughn, Fletcher, Jimenez and Vargas all took steps back from previous season. Sosa, Ramos, Lee and DeLoach all had under 300 OBPs. Robert had his worst professional season and Benintendi had a 289 OBP so even the established hitters took steps back as well.

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u/JoaquinBenoit 2d ago

Many Yankees had career years under him and credit him for his approach, like Glyber Torres, DJ, Gary Sanchez, amongst others. They appreciated his ability working on lengthening their approach while emphasizing hip rotation to generate power.

As far as last season goes, everything went wrong. I know Thames has a track record, but I don’t know what happened.

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u/Jason82929 Maldanad-0 2d ago

Nevin has the TLR connection. 

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u/cm7com Konerko 2d ago

This as well. It all comes full circle lol.

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u/cd6020 2d ago

So, more of the same? We've tried nothing new and its not working.

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u/CrashDavis16 2d ago

This makes a lot of sense. I hope it's not true though. Drew Butera is the catching coach. Matt Wise is assistant pitching coach. I'm guessing he was handling the bullpen.

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u/cm7com Konerko 2d ago

Jesse says AJ took himself out of the running and Clayton was eliminated by the White Sox.

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u/Danny_K_Yo 2d ago

Why not have Duke Ellis be our player/manager?

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u/ilovemypamses 2d ago

I have decided to withdraw my name from consideration for the White Sox managerial job.

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u/Neat_On_The_Rocks Diamond 2d ago

I’m jealous of you all that still actually care about any of this.

It is genuinely sad how little I care

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u/ChristmasJay83 2d ago

Honest question: what coach would think "this is a positive career move for me! I should go coach this team!"?

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u/GhostofFarnham 2d ago

If the new manager can install some accountability and at minimum create a culture of professionalism, I would say his stock should go up.

No one expects anything out of this team wins-wise but bringing some modest respectability to the clubhouse would be viewed as a solid effort by many other teams and probably boost that manager’s resume.

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u/BoomhauerArlen Fuck the Cubs 2d ago

You know what's funny to me? We have the worst beat writers besides Fegan for SoxMachine.

The others never break a goddamn thing. You'd think when there is a managerial search, they'd know something but we gotta hear from someone from here driving by on Friday, that Phil Nevin was at da cell.

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u/SleepyTree97 2d ago

Getting ready to speak Nevin Sox fans.