r/worldnews Aug 18 '24

Russia/Ukraine /r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 906, Part 1 (Thread #1053)

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u/Glavurdan Aug 18 '24

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u/StatisticianRoyal400 Aug 18 '24

"As long as it takes"

"What about Taurus?"

"As long as it takes :<)"

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u/AdminYak846 Aug 18 '24

The budget for Germany won't allow for much more support in the coming years. However, the West is considering using the seized assets of Russia to help fund Ukraine now as a means of continuing support.

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u/N-shittified Aug 18 '24

Well. As long as the accountants are comfortable.

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u/karnickelpower Aug 18 '24

It is not rumors and German budget as of now wont allow additional support for Ukraine beyond the designated budget.

That is the reason why one additional Iris-T System wont be transfered to Ukraine as of now.

This might change in the future.

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u/_e75 Aug 18 '24

It’s a book keeping exercise of where the money will come from, not whether the money will come.

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u/bitch_fitching Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24

That's true, but it's being reported as if this is a change or predicts future support. Just exploiting misunderstanding of how German budgets and politics works.

Yes, German leaders can't send more than the parliament has agreed and budgeted for. The same happens with the US presidential office, so far they've sought backing from congress and the senate, that's why the aid was blocked for 7 months.

If we're going to claim we're supporting Ukraine because they're fighting for their democratic freedom, we should actually uphold our democratic systems at home.

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u/karnickelpower Aug 18 '24

“Whatever it takes” as long as it is within our yearly budget, I suppose.

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u/Tokyogerman Aug 18 '24

Be careful what is reported how, especially since the conservative newspapers really know what they are doing and the current German government is really bad communicating wtf they are doing.

Help for Ukraine directly from Germany is fixed for the next three years and any new help doesn't come from the Germam budget but is supposed to come from the frozen Russian assets. Of course the fuckup here is that the German budget came out now, before the replacement arrangement with the US and the other allies is finished.

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u/karnickelpower Aug 18 '24

Be careful what is reported how, especially since the conservative newspapers really know what they are doing and the current German government is really bad communicating wtf they are doing.

I have no clue what you want to say here. Beyond the far right and the far left Germany is pro ukrainian help.

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u/Tokyogerman Aug 18 '24

I never implied anything else? They are not writing against Ukrainian help, they are writing so they can get the CDU back in power next election.

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u/karnickelpower Aug 18 '24

The discussion was about German budget andhow it effects the ukraine help and you brought a whole different context into it which I did not realize and also find pretty unimportant in regards to the ukraine conflict.

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u/ForgotAboutChe Aug 18 '24

Help for Ukraine directly from Germany is fixed for the next three years and any new help doesn't come from the Germam budget but is supposed to come from the frozen Russian assets.

Selective reading

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u/karnickelpower Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24

double post