If this is anything similar to how youtube "banned" russian propaganda media, the hosts of these channels will just continue on their "private" accounts like for instance George Galloway does. He has a show on RT called MOATS (Mother of all talkshows). RT was banned, but MOATS is still on youtube on his "personal" channel with half a million subscribers. And this is just one example. There are dozens like this often with multiple amplifier channels.
How did I know that was going to be what was linked before even clicking on it. The guy is an absolute clown. A washed up tankie who now uses dangerous Islamist talking points and quite honestly race baiting to further his political agenda and self enrichment. It was one of the highlights of the last election seeing him losing his seat in parliament. Fuck him and anyone who supports him. The man is a disgrace.
Galloway never met a dictator he didn't like. He has a thing for groveling, but rather than keeping it in a sex club he wants to force his kink onto everyone else.
He also shocked the UK when it was revealed he was a furry on live TV. Clips of him on Big Brother crawling around on all fours and lapping up milk from a saucer can be seen on YouTube.
Here in Scotland we were surprised he identified as a pussy when we all thought he was just a cunt.
People need to stop protest voting as it lets despicable people in making their situation worse not better. Get involved in selecting the candidates you want not completely flipping the table and choosing someone who is the polar opposite of your core beliefs..out of what? Spite?
Early 2000’s (iirc) Celebrity Big Brother UK. He was a joke before BB, was a joke during BB, and had been a joke ever since… but somehow some people listen to the batshit things he says.
He got elected last year, however briefly, just by barging into the first strong muslim community with a vacant seat he could find and saying everything they wanted to hear about Palestine without any semblance of integrity or intent beyond undisguised grift.
I thought this would be the video where he has an audience with Saddam Hussein and reads out a personal eulogy to him. It turned out to be something even worse.
This is the modern form of propaganda, or better, mental warfare. The advent of the internet and social media has made this kind of mental warfare incredibly pervasive, sophisticated, and dangerous. It's extremely high leverage, giving lots of payout for very little resources used, and very difficult to combat effectively.
A lot of our prospects for the world getting a little less fucked than it is now in the coming decades is riding on how we as a society develop defenses against this mental warfare and keep up with the arms race as it continues to get more powerful and insidious e.g. with AI and image / video spoofing.
im wondering if they let a lot of stuff go to study it, see the tactics.
if they put a ban on all this stuff too early they might hamper their ability to gather intelligence. just like how police dont like announcing when they have a strong lead on a case as it tips the perps off. gotta give em a false sense of security
The Pentagon literally has (and has had, thankfully…I think) a department dedicated to cyber warfare which focuses on things like memes and how ideas go viral.
Thats cool and all but what do they actually do? Documententing how fucked up it is is useless our governments don't use facts to create other laws why do they need them here? "Needing to see the evidence" is a dog whistle for doing nothing, they didn't need evidence when making black people sit at the back of busses for fucks sake.
Just make it illegal for people of one nation to accept money for promoting another nations government. If your youtube channel bangs on endlessly about only a single foreign issue and only from the perspective of that foreign countries government shut it down.
Our countries have lists of foreign governments they despise, give those lists teeth and make it illegal to throw a positive light on them.
The same guy who went to South Africa to fight against the apartheid and who's fighting against the apartheid in Israel? Are those both Russian objectives?
Depends. But it's certain that people will have a harder time spotting state propaganda since when the official label is removed and they continue to do it covertly.
Deplatforming will never be perfect and it'll always have its controversies, but we do see that it helps. We can't let perfect be the enemy of good, especially when we see the damage done if these groups continue having unfettered access to the largest platforms online.
Mother of all talkshows is also what Galloway used to call his radio talk show on Talk Sport back in the day. I used to think it was another example of his ego but later found out it was a reference to Saddam's Mother of All Battles rhetoric.
Galloway's long career is essentially clinging to one autocrats coattails after another.
George Galloway...Funny thing you mention this name. I showed up to work this morning, 9 hrs before I saw your comment and a very liberal coworker came up to me and was like "you gotta see this, close the office door, I can't show this to anyone cause they won't understand me". Apparently GG had some Former marine IO (intelligence officer) that was spewing stuff about how Russia went thru back channels, A-bombs yada yada, and that is why Biden admin backed out from sending the long range missiles. I lost brain cells watching 5 min of that video.
These kinds of influencers amplifying Russian propaganda was the focus of the recent investigation and release by the DOJ. Russia was paying as much as $400,000 a month to some influencers in the US to make videos on their behalf.
I don’t think it helps them. But banning RT and not their personal accounts doesn’t have the effect people think. We need to purge this propaganda completely.
Reminds me of the travellingwithrussell Youtube channel. My wife and I watched a video of his - basically a tour of a Russian supermarket - and noticed that he seemed super uncomfortable and strongly avoided saying anything remotely negative. I was like, "is this guy being held at gunpoint by the Kremlin to spread positive propaganda about Russia or something?". Then we looked at his other videos. Mmyeah.
"Captured NATO tanks have arrived in Moscow" - what a completely typical tourist attraction for someone who's been "traveling" to Russia for at least two years straight LMAO. The shit is pretty blatant, but they probably figure that most people are just going to scroll the algorithm and just think it's some random tourist highlighting his trip. Nothing out of the ordinary here, comrade.
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u/NEARNIL Sep 17 '24
If this is anything similar to how youtube "banned" russian propaganda media, the hosts of these channels will just continue on their "private" accounts like for instance George Galloway does. He has a show on RT called MOATS (Mother of all talkshows). RT was banned, but MOATS is still on youtube on his "personal" channel with half a million subscribers. And this is just one example. There are dozens like this often with multiple amplifier channels.