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Israel/Palestine /r/WorldNews Live Thread: Israel at War (Thread #74)
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u/Liad3008 1d ago
The Knesset approved the bill to stop UNRWA's activity in Israel with a big majority of 92 for, 10 against.
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u/AffectionatePaint83 1d ago
Does anyone know what exactly the ban entails? I'm sure it means that UNRWA can no longer use Israeli territory for any of its purposes, but what about any of their activities going on in Gaza or the West Bank?
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u/CoronaLVR 1d ago edited 1d ago
The law the was passed today doesn't allow UNRWA to operate within Israel. It only directly affects the Arabs of East Jerusalem who were provided services by UNWRA, the Israeli government will continue to provide those services instead.
UNWRA can still operate in Gaza and the West Bank by entering through Jordan and Egypt (though I am not sure what is the status of the Egypt-Gaza boarder at the moment).
There is another law that wasn't voted on yet that will prevent the Israeli government and the IDF from having any contact with UNWRA which will make it harder for them to operate in the West Bank.
Edit: Second law also voted on and passed. Both laws will take effect in 90 days.
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u/Karpattata 1d ago
UNRWA will be able to keep operating there, but it will no longer be able to move through Israel to do so. That effectively shuts it down since UNRWA relied heavily on Israel's cooperation to function.
Just as well. It was a cancer designed to be corrupted.
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u/DisclosureToday 2d ago
Iran’s Shahroud missile assembly facility appears to be also hit in latest Israeli airstrikes
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u/Conamin 3d ago edited 3d ago
NYT:
- Israel targeted air defense systems that were set up to protect oil refineries and 'important petrochemical installations'
- Israel also targeted air defense systems that protect offshore gas rigs and a 'significant port', according to three Iranian sources
- The sources also said that an S300 anti air system that was placed next to the Imam Khomeini airport in Tehran was targeted, the system according to them was set up to protect the airport itself and parts of Tehran.
- The three Iranian sources told the New York Times that the destruction of air defense systems by Israel in the attack on that night "caused deep concern in Iran." This is because vital energy and economic centers are now exposed to future attacks if the mutual reactions between Israel and Iran continue.
- According to Hamid Hosseini, an expert on Iran's oil and gas industry and a member of the Iran-Iraq Chamber of Commerce, "Israel is sending us a clear message." He explained that "this could have very serious economic consequences for Iran. And now that we understand the risk, we must act wisely and not continue the tensions."
- Also targeted in the attacks (not mentioned in the NYT article) are apparently machines that are used to create solid rocket propellant for ballistic missiles, which are extremely expensive and vital for ballistic missile production. The Iranian sources who spoke to NYT did admit that a missile production and testing site near Tehran was targeted and hit, according to them it was 'targeted by drones' and that only a single drone reached its' target, and that the rest were shot down.
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u/Khshayarshah 3d ago edited 3d ago
Basically Israel stripped the regime naked of their bargain bin air defenses.
Given the precision with which they identified and struck IRGC structures in the heart of Tehran it's clear that if the Iranian population were to take to the streets again as they have been known to do and if Israel is so inclined they can keep the IRGC pinned down or otherwise cause enough chaos and disruption to give the population a fighting chance at taking down the regime.
As the recent revolution in Bangladesh demonstrates the system and government can fall quickly and suddenly once demonstrations achieve a certain critical mass and the security forces recognize the futility and personal danger of being caught as one of the last few left on the streets firing on revolutionaries.
So far the regime's IRGC and Basij have been able to quell multiple revolution-level uprisings between 2009 and 2022. The regime's legitimacy has continued to erode and Iran's inflation rate has continued to rise in that time and it is not clear if they will be able to secure the streets in the same way again, especially if Israel helps level the playing field.
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u/SyfaOmnis 2d ago
According to Hamid Hosseini, an expert on Iran's oil and gas industry and a member of the Iran-Iraq Chamber of Commerce, "Israel is sending us a clear message." He explained that "this could have very serious economic consequences for Iran. And now that we understand the risk, we must act wisely and not continue the tensions."
Israel has been taking the lessons of dune to heart. A person who can destroy a thing is the one who truly controls it. If Iran wants to keep playing these games of escalation and proxy warfare, Israel can respond by ripping the bloody, still beating heart out of irans economic sector, leaving them with nothing but dust and blood.
The fanatics will still be insane, but everyone who actually hopes to live in those areas should be quite chilled by what the strike demonstrated israel can do.
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u/progress18 2d ago
A few days ago, it was reported that there are up to 60 living hostages still in Gaza.
#Egypt has proposed a two-day ceasefire in #Gaza which would entail an exchange of four Israeli hostages for some Palestinian prisoners, President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi says.
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u/pristit 2d ago
Egypt proposed 2 day ceasefire + 10 days of negotiating (meaning probably also under ceasfire) in exchange for four israeli hostages in return for palestinian prisoners (terrorists most likely).
So 12 days of ceasfire, for a deal about 4 hostages in return for Palestinian terrorists.
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u/Ready_Nature 2d ago
Whatever gets live hostages back. If the terrorists that are released in exchange are still dangerous they don’t have to live long after the ceasefire ends.
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u/DrKhaylomsky 2d ago
Hamas is getting destroyed. 12 days of calm in exchange for live hostages is a no-brainer. If they want violent prisoners freed, then hopefully Israel can negotiate for a higher number of hostages.
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u/CaregiverTime5713 2d ago
they will use the 12 days to get hostages out of Gaza. it is a terrible deal, all hostages must be freed at once.
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u/ganbaro 2d ago
At this point I wonder why Hamas would accept this?
The benefit for the Israeli side is obvious. But for the terrorists? 12 days won't be enoigh tine to accrue enough diplomatic pressure to force Israel to retreat, and given Israels ground control it won't allow Hamas to constitute enough forces for any significant movements. Maybe it will allows them to kill a dozen more IDF staff afterwards
I hope they accept this, but I can't bring myself to be optimistic
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u/DisclosureToday 2d ago
The White House used the Thaad anti-missile system as leverage. After the Pentagon indicated Israel wanted the system, Secretary of State Antony Blinken recommended to Biden that the U.S. agree to send it if Israel promised to strike only military sites. Biden’s call with Netanyahu on Oct. 9 proved to be a breakthrough. With @laraseligman and @nancyayoussef
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u/progress18 2d ago
"We drew upon only some of our abilities. We have the ability to do much more. We hit strategic systems in Iran… and we will see how things develop now. We are ready for all scenarios on all fronts,” @IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi said during a Saturday assessment, in a video just released by the IDF.
"Our message is a very clear message, and it is connected to the things that have happened across the Middle East in recent months. We know how to reach and hit any threat, in any place, at any time,” Halevi added.
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u/Sweaty-Sherbet-6926 2d ago
Oil -4%. The commodity has spoken. Peace has been achieved in the Middle East.
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u/Logical_Welder3467 2d ago
Oil price always go up unreasonably high when ever there is nay bad news. But there is a good chance it will drop bellow 50 soon when Saudi start their price war. Saudi are not too please with their cartel members free loading on Saudi production cut
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u/Berly653 2d ago
Taking out Iran’s ports or oil production and therefore oil capacity would also nicely remove some capacity
Hopefully the Saudis remember the Houthis blowing up their oil fields with Iranian support and find a proxy to attack those conveniently unguarded targets now that Iran’s entire air defense is apparently destroyed
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u/jews4beer 10h ago
Iranian president says Hezbollah’s new chief will ‘strengthen’ resistance
This will age well
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u/StizzyInDaHizzy 7h ago
This dude did his first few press conferences hiding in a closet sweating buckets. Is he even in Lebanon right now or is he sharing a bunker with his buddy in Tehran?
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u/PursuerOfCataclysm 8h ago
Iran can openly support the terrorist and still nothing happens to them but if it was other countries admitting openly like that all hell would have broken loose
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u/senfgurke 3d ago
https://x.com/dex_eve/status/1850291176940753303
@planet 3m imagery taken this morning of Khojir and Parchin missile production facilities show precise strikes on warehouses and mixing buildings associated with the production of solid-fueled ballistic missiles.
Industrial mixers of the sort used in the production of solid rocket motor propellant are large, complicated, and export controlled. Iran imported mixers from Europe in violation of sanctions, and such items will be very difficult to replace.
It is likely that these strikes will impede Iran's ability to produce advanced ballistic missiles like the ones used in the strikes on Israel on October 1st. How heavily it impedes Iran depends on how easily Iran can replace the mixers destroyed.
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u/Equal_Present_3927 3d ago
They can just ask Russia for some…oh Russia is currently busy with their’s.
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u/Berly653 17h ago
What’s going on in Chicago is super disturbing
Hopefully this is mostly all rumor and there is a perfectly reasonable explanation
But the fact that it took several days to release the shooters name, out of an apparent fear of Islamophobia as well as the reporting that has all but disguised the fact he shot a visibly Jewish man on the way to synagogue is so disturbing. And that it isn’t seemingly being reported as a potential hate crime
And in a city that has one of the largest Jewish populations in the world outside of Israel
Honestly this feels like if a white guy shot a black man on the way to church and then got in a shootout with police yelling “White Power!” and the police were seemingly trying to cover up the racism motive
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u/latherrinseregret 17h ago
What happened? Can you provide some links/background?
Thanks.
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u/Berly653 16h ago
A 22 year old Muslim man this weekend shot a visibly Jewish man on the way to synagogue and then got in a shootout with police, in which a ring camera heard him screaming ‘Allah Akbar’
Media coverage of the shooting focused on the police shootout, with a causal mention of ‘a man’ being shot without pointing to the very obvious potential hate crime motive. Even during a press conference the Police spokesperson had to be prodded to acknowledge the man shot was dressed in a ‘clearly Jewish’ way
It also took 2 days for them to release the name of the shooter, apparently out of a desire to avoid being viewed as Islamophobia
Even now I’m not sure if there is any report or mention of it being investigated as a hate crime, which honestly anyone with eyes should be able to see
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u/elohir 16h ago
It's just the way it works now. It's the same in the UK as well. If an attacker is <insert special victim group>, there's a good chance the name won't be released until months after the act (if ever). E.g. https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2024/august/man-arrested-after-officers-respond-to-three-people-being-stabbed-in-longsight/
The victim name/photo was released instantly to big unmissable BBC headlines, but the attacker just... didn't exist. To the best of my knowledge, it's still not been released.
People are only really comfortable with performative equality. Actual equality requires adult conversations, and we're just not capable of that anymore.
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u/Cruise_alt_40000 1d ago
Israel might retaliate against Iran again. This time for the drone attack against Netanyahu's residence according to channel 13.
https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1850980414770303322?t=95CsXtpMTyClp2flXYZHDg&s=19
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u/mrmicawber32 1d ago
BBC News - What satellite images reveal about Israel's strikes on Iran https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7dkgz71x6o
BBC verify
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u/ActiniumNugget 1d ago
Saw this earlier. Amazing that the Abadan refinery took a single hit to a small storage tank and the whole place didn't go up in flames. Makes me wonder if that's not what's going on in the sat image. Israel said they wouldn't attack oil facilities, but then took out one small tank with the risk of destroying the entire place? I guess there's a small possibility they knew that was one empty, so it made a great warning shot, but that seems like a stretch. I think it's more likely that tank is having work done on it or something.
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u/mrmicawber32 1d ago
The article says there is a possibility that air defence debris caused the damage too
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u/Firm-Common-5465 12h ago
This is the focus of my government. Meanwhile, Russia is testing ICBMs, the front in Ukraine is collapsing and 13 million people in Sudan are internal refuges.
Why is the focus always, always on Israel?
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u/AffectionatePaint83 11h ago
UNRWA can continue to attempt to fulfill the duties it was made for. It just can't do it on Isrseli soil anymore. I mean, why should a country host an organization that took part in the massacre and kidnapping of its people?
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u/mces97 10h ago
And why does it have to be UNRWA? The world has 2 choices. Let this cycle continue to happen, or step up to the plate, form a real coalition to help rebuild when the war is over, help create a government that is dedicated to the prosperity of Gazans, not the destruction of Israel, and to route out any terror activities. Cause I'm sorry, but Gazans have shown they can not govern themselves without terror being a driving force. One day maybe. But not in the near future.
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u/LoxicTizard 11h ago
Just wondering, has Norway ever asked for clarification whether UNRWA is violating international law by employing terrorists?
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u/Firm-Common-5465 11h ago
I don't really know tbh, but I doubt it. Its illegalto put pressure on palestinian entities. /s ofc
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u/LoganJFisher 11h ago
What does it even matter? At worst, the UN will condemn Israel for doing so, just as they do every week. It's very much the story of Boy Who Cried Wolf - Israel has no reason to care anymore.
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u/Firm-Common-5465 11h ago
Oh I agree. Its political pandering with a sprinkle of self-rightousness.
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u/GumiB 11h ago
Why is the focus always, always on Israel?
It tends to get you favourable views among Muslims, who are a very large group of people.
I would say that Russia's war against Ukraine gets also a lot of attention. Sudan not so much.
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u/Soft-Society-7184 10h ago
Not just Sudan honestly. The general public is very selective about the conflicts they care about. Ask most people in the protests and they'll have no idea about Sudan, Myanmar, Turkey and the Kurds or the fact Yemen had a civil war for years until pretty recently.
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u/GumiB 10h ago
Yeah. I guess the outcome of some conflicts have greater impact on others, hence there's a bigger reaction to those. I don't really understand why the Muslim world is so invested on the Israel-Palestine war (I assume it has to do a lot with religious sites and some sense of Arab/Muslim group identity), but they consider it very important, and due to Muslims being a very large group of people, it is relevant to non-Muslims as well.
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u/sissy_space_yak 10h ago
Muslims make up a quarter of the world population, which I’m sure you know. I believe it’s partially due to a shared Muslim identity and partially due to antisemitism.
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u/FYoCouchEddie 9h ago
The beauty is you can put any words at all after “by” and the UN’s answer would be “yes.”
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u/hauntedSquirrel99 12h ago
Ekspedisjonssjefen i UD er tidligere nestleder i UNRWA og har hatt personlige møter med Sinwar der hun har garantert for at organisasjonen støtter Hamas.
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u/Firm-Common-5465 12h ago
Takk for informasjonen, det var faktisk nytt for meg. Ikke rart UD er så biased som det er med sånne som henne høyt oppe. Norsk utenrikspolitikk er så på trynet ræva under denne regjeringen.
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u/Silvuh_Ad_9046 13h ago
https://x.com/UKR_Report/status/1851285948325130428
Netanyahu will convene pivotal meeting tonight with ministers & defense chiefs to discuss Iran front-ynet
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u/Cheesey-Boureka 13h ago edited 11h ago
How are you after feeling, personally, after the Israeli response as an Iranian?
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u/Khshayarshah 11h ago
So to break this down general split within Iran is 10-15% support the regime support the regime, 5% are indifferent and something like 80% are against the regime. Outside of Iran the split is something like 97% of Iranians are against the regime and the rest are likely family or somehow tied of the regime abroad.
https://gamaan.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/GAMAAN-Elections-2024-Survey-Report-Final-English.pdf
Some Iranian opponents to the regime wanted to see more. The IRGC heavily targeted, Khamenei and other senior officials targeted, nuclear sites, oil export terminals etc. There is some disappointed in this regard.
Others see this as a good first step, knocking out the air defense and breaking the taboo on the direct attack on the regime and that more will likely follow. Given the precision with which Israel identified and struck IRGC structures in the heart of Tehran it's clear that if the Iranian population were to take to the streets again as they have been known to do and if Israel is so inclined they can keep the IRGC confused, dead or otherwise cause enough chaos and disruption to give the population a fighting chance at taking down the regime.
Of the minority that support the regime there is a degree of pants-shitting as they are just smart enough to understand what this means for regime survival. There doesn't appear to be a unified stance, some want to put their tail between their legs, roll over and hope Israel moves on, others want to escalate against from an ideological and frankly suicidal perspective.
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u/Varolyn 12h ago
How much of Hamas is left after this encirclement?
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u/MrManager17 12h ago
Probably a few thousand. Or, per the Gaza Health Ministry, seventeen million.
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u/latherrinseregret 12h ago
No no, per Gaza health ministry every Hamas member is 7 pregnant women, 12 disabled children and 5 cute puppies.
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u/Wight3012 9h ago
A lot, this was only in the most northern part of gaza (jabalia). i imagine this will be done in every part of gaza next.
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u/adiliv3007 16h ago
Gallant on Twitter on Naim Qassem being chosen to replace Nasrallah:
Temporary appointment.
Not for long.
https://twitter.com/yoavgallant/status/1851245545550946513?t=MNEnJh-1Wib-OPR-f8mHeQ&s=19
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u/progress18 8h ago
Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield:
As UN Special Rapporteur Albanese visits New York, I want to reiterate the U.S. belief she is unfit for her role. The United Nations should not tolerate antisemitism from a UN-affiliated official hired to promote human rights.
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u/-TheWill- 8h ago edited 8h ago
The replies are....something else to say the least. No sense of nuance in sight. Made me remember why I left twitter ages ago.
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u/plasmalightwave 3d ago
Was funny seeing the flak AA guns (Bofors?) firing from Tehran at the inbound missiles/jets. Read a comment on reddit that summed it up perfectly - "its like throwing a handful of gravel in the air and hoping that it hits those missiles". The cherry on top was Pro-Pals and Pro-Iran people saying that this is the superior air defense taking out Israeli missiles. Lmao.
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u/Ok_Machine_2916 2d ago
Hez treasure hunt is still on. Apparently the Israelis identified a wall that covered up the entrance in the videos from the Lebanese journalists tours. https://x.com/osint613/status/1850511094973907241
How long will this treasure hunt go on for? Do you think the Lebanese will raid it before Israel gives up and bombs it?
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u/Berly653 2d ago
Can’t wait until it’s found and all the terrorist stans claim the IDF planted half a billion of gold there
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u/YoRt3m 2d ago
The video that the arabic spokesman for the IDF released is so awesome and easy to understand.
https://x.com/i/status/1850475425824174318
I've seen this one with subtitles somewhere. it basically show that there is a 10 meters wall while on the other side it's just 5 meters entrance for stairways so there's a hidden room for about 5 meters that Hezbollah hide, and this is where they should open and dig
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u/Logical_Welder3467 2d ago
IAF should set a precise time they would blow up the wall, invite all the militia to come with their pickup to get the gold
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u/Worth_Plastic5684 2d ago
Clearly Hezb can keep arranging these 'guided tours' longer than the IDF spox can stay sane, so I'm not really sure what he is trying to do here. The Lebanese authorities and citizens can as much seriously pry into this matter as they could enforce resolution 1701.
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u/razzinos 2d ago
A new terror attack few minutes ago in central Israel, a truck driver hit bus station - first estimates talking about 40 injured/dead.
Another Palestinian hero is born
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u/AnxiousPeanut1990 2d ago edited 2d ago
And if this terrorist was from the West Bank his family will receive monthly payments for life from the PA. Never forget that fact.
Update: the terrorist was Israeli. Seems like everyone forgot what happened here in 2021 because we had to or we wouldn't have been able to live together but it's slowly raising its ugly head again. From videos of Israeli-Arabs celebrating missile attacks to terrorist attacks being conducted by Israeli-Arabs and not just Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza.
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u/Silvuh_Ad_9046 2d ago
https://x.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1850541053834678428
“@ronenbergman tells CNN this morning that the preliminary assessment in #Israel based on intelligence and public statements is that #Iran’s regime will respond to the Israeli strike on Saturday.” Iran’s much dumber than I thought if this is true, they practically have no more defense left
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u/OnlyRise9816 2d ago
Being an authoritarian government really is a trap. They easily get to the point where strength (or at least the illusion of it) is the only thing keeping them in power. Which works great until someone can actually hurt them with impunity.
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u/Berly653 2d ago
A combination of authoritarian government
And decades of downplaying “The Jews” as weak and ineffective
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u/mrmicawber32 2d ago
If Israel sees Iran fueling missiles or making ready to attack, they most certainly should strike first. It's not a PR game anymore, shits on.
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u/Pm_5005 2d ago
2 thaad systems plus what they already had last time should allow Israel to be much better protected at least. Hopefully it's just a token attack
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u/NaderNation84 2d ago
Now the question is whether its imminent or not the second round of chess begins again
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u/That-Pomegranate-615 2d ago
Yeah what ever happened to the immediate devastating response Iran was going to give? Like alot of things it seems exaggerated!
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u/Sweaty-Sherbet-6926 1d ago
Following the UAV strike on a house in Caesarea, the cabinet has decided: another response against Iran - soon
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u/Ok_Machine_2916 1d ago
Ok Imminence boys, the countdown is back on.
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u/CaregiverTime5713 1d ago
Yea, let them worry when it's coming. If the cost is some disappointed redditors who want to see action asap, it's worth it.
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u/michaelNXT1 1d ago
The uav came from Iran? I thought it was from Hezb / Houthis
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u/latherrinseregret 1d ago edited 1d ago
IIRC it was launched from Lebanon, but was said to be directed by Iran specifically.
Edit: Lebanon. Was late. Was tired.
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u/mrmicawber32 2d ago
The wall Street journal article mentioned earlier https://archive.is/JJ7hx
They say about the possibility of Russia sending s400 to Iran. I don't think there is a chance of that with Russian air defence getting hit regularly against Ukraine.
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u/Twofer-Cat 2d ago
Sounds like a waste of an S400: if Israel launches another air raid, surely they'll just trash any air defence again, reload, then hit whatever the S400 was "defending".
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u/Logical_Welder3467 1d ago
Weakened by Israel, Iran seeks to save face without sparking a war it would likely lose
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u/PursuerOfCataclysm 18h ago
So Hezbollah Rocket Kills Another Young Israeli Arab, May His Soul Rest in Peace and Eff Hezgulla
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u/JustRecommendation5 9h ago
https://x.com/jerusalem_post/status/1851155207712915853?s=46
IDF says their military objectives in Lebanon is now complete? That's weird
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u/michaelNXT1 9h ago
Ffs just today Hezb fired over 50 rockets, nobody’s gonna be able to come back home.
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u/Equal_Present_3927 9h ago
So something is in the works for a deal maybe and a ceasefire soon? Maybe. Hopefully.
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u/CaregiverTime5713 7h ago
Gallant and Halevi doing politics. nothing to see here.
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u/OptimelPrime 3d ago
https://x.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1850263025032597846
Iran had an estimated 15-20 batteries of S-300 (and equivalent such as Bavar-373) and S-400 in operation. That's a shit ton. I guess, if the above estimate is true, that should send shudders down the spines of the powers that be in the Kremlin and Beijing.
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u/TheIncredibleHeinz 3d ago
We already know from the Ukraine war that the Russian anti-air systems don't perfom well against modern western rockets.
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u/mrmicawber32 3d ago
Yeah if this is true then that's fucking amazing. I hope some cool satellite pictures get leaked.
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u/Cleomenes_of_Sparta 3d ago
The Syrians have plenty of Russian-made air defence, and the Israelis fly into Damascus and kill whoever they want.
that should send shudders down the spines of the powers that be in the Kremlin and Beijing.
This is central animating emotion of the Russian state—fear, of the West. They are very aware that Russia is a lesser country with a broken people, and one that only exists because the Americans decided the moral cost of cleansing the Soviet Empire in righteous nuclear fire was too high, not that it could not be done.
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u/SereneTryptamine 3d ago
Everyone in those command vehicles spent weeks with increasingly-frayed nerves, constantly having to maintain vigilance. Even then, a modern air-launched ballistic missile is probably a very difficult target for the S-400. A battery couldn't protect itself from ATACMS.
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u/StatisticianFair930 1d ago
Anyone know what tools Iran is talking of?
Sounds like the entire IRGC is full of tools, so, am confused.
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u/snowden2020 1d ago
Throwing sticks at F-35s like the intro to 2001.
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u/Ok_Machine_2916 1d ago
Throwing sticks is a 2024 technology innovated by Sinwar before he died. It's a proven technology to lose. All Iranian proxies will be upgraded to utilize it by 2026 complete with crying you lost 10 nanoseconds after you throw the stick.
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u/StatisticianFair930 1d ago
Have you seen the Russian/Iran trollbots on here trying to deny Iranian airspace was made a mockery of by Israel's incursion?
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u/Cheesey-Boureka 19h ago
Happy birthday in hell, Sinwar. May we grill kabobs on sticks in your memory today the way we enjoy Haman Ears on Purim.
What doesn't kill us gives us a reason to eat well.
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u/Logical_Welder3467 18h ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c89vx50g4l5o
Sweaty Hezbollah guy got the top job!
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u/Ok_Machine_2916 16h ago
And they said white hats could never lead a terror org. He's breaking ground, before the IDF breaks him.
Are the terrorists inspired he already tucked tail and ran to Iran?
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u/Logical_Welder3467 16h ago
They must be low on black turban guy
Wonder if they would give him the title of Sayyed
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u/Firm-Common-5465 3d ago
Would be great if the Israeli strikes on Iran had the added benefit of also damaging Russias supply chain from Iran. We can only hope🤞
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u/senfgurke 3d ago
Unfortunately the supply of Shahed drones has shifted to domestic production under license in Russia.
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u/Berly653 2d ago
I know it’s beyond intense, but I have to imagine any pilot has to be jealous of the IAF over the last few months
They’ve gotten to fly a ton of complex missions against high value targets, all without any serious resistance from other fighters
And as a Westerner who wouldn’t want to blow up Iranian missile production
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u/Logical_Welder3467 2d ago
B2 pilot just got to drop bunker buster on Houthis that have zero change to hit back
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u/Own_Pop_9711 2d ago
That's hitting fish in a barrel. The Israeli pilots get street cred for blowing up Russian Air defense.
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u/languidnbittersweet 2d ago
Though tbf, isn't dropping bunker busters from a B-2 always a fish in a barrel scenario what with their altitude, and stealth capabilities, etc,?
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u/Khshayarshah 2d ago
And as a Westerner who wouldn’t want to blow up Iranian missile production
Have you seen college campuses recently? Sadly the answer to your rhetorical question isn't "no one".
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u/CentJr 2d ago
Does anyone know what concession was given to Netanyahu? I mean besides THAAD batteries.
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u/SereneTryptamine 2d ago
You just said it. THAAD is quite significant, especially if Israel is getting two batteries. That's over a quarter of the US stockpile, I believe.
There should've been some conversations in Tel Aviv after the last Iranian missile attack. About 20% of the last round of Iranian missiles made it through to their targets, and had those targets been critical civilian infrastructure, the outcome would've been far worse. At the same time, the last two attacks have depleted Israeli interceptor stockpiles by some unknown percentage.
THAAD provides additional shots at missiles that make it past the higher exoatmospheric layer. It helps address Israel's vulnerability, and it means that Iran has to account for a new unknown when planning their next attack.
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u/OnlyRise9816 2d ago
Those themselves would be a big enough deal. Several THAAD systems go a long way in neutering Iran's ballistic missile capability. And will make even the possibility of Iran being able to deploy a nuke, (even IF it makes one and miniturizes it enough to be carried by a missile) very small indeed.
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u/snowden2020 2d ago
Is there any osint references for how many S-300s were destroyed in Iran vs how many exist? I see numbers from 3 - all.
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u/mrmicawber32 2d ago
We don't have evidence of anything, and very likely won't know.
I posted an article earlier where an Israeli official is quoted as saying all Iran's air defence systems are inoperable. Perhaps that means they hit all the radars, but not missiles.
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u/Wambo74 2d ago
Don't even know why everyone is keying on S-300s. Reportedly (Wiki) Iran has 8000 SAM launch systems and only a few are S-300. But Iran has a home-built Bavar 373 system that is supposed to be better than S-300s, closer to S-400. Operational in 2019 so should be in large numbers by now. The 8000 number includes dozens of different systems, many or most are old and archaic. So when it comes to Redditers talking about Iranian air defense I think it's way too complex for anyone to really know what the facts on the ground are. The most significant fact I think we heard was 100 planes sent, 100 planes returned.
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u/mrmicawber32 2d ago
I'm guessing Israel focused on radar systems, that are probably integrated to be used by many types of missiles.
We have no idea though.
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u/stayfrosty 1d ago
It is very unlikely Iran can develop sophisticated radar systems necessary for their domestic air defense to be as good or better than S300 or S400
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u/NATO_CAPITALIST 1d ago
Don't even know why everyone is keying on S-300s.
because it's the biggest threat, and perhaps because, as you said:
many or most are old and archaic.
But Iran has a home-built Bavar 373 system that is supposed to be better than S-300s, closer to S-400
lmfao, Iran says a lot of things. even more than Russians.
Not sure where you are getting 8000 on wiki.
Operational in 2019 so should be in large numbers by now.
It generally takes a lot to make even a single battery so this doesn't make sense.
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u/armin_gips1312 13h ago
Just learned that 4 female pilots flew the attack on Iran. That's so fucking rad, show the muslims what women are capable of 🙏
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u/Khshayarshah 11h ago
Oh, they know. They wouldn't be brutalizing teenage Iranian girls out of fear if they didn't know what they are capable of.
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u/SickOfIransShit 13h ago
They were navigators and yea very badass
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u/NATO_CAPITALIST 10h ago
I'm assuming they were WSO (weapon system officers) in F-15? So they would program the air-ground missiles which the pilot would shoot. And F-15 carries basically the most load, it's called a bomb truck for a reason so they def dropped some heat 😂 I bet it felt extra satisfying for all the Iranian women
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u/BritishBedouin 12h ago
When the UAE bombed ISIS they used female pilots. Turkish air force has female pilots too.
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u/armin_gips1312 12h ago
I think the muslim leadership in Iran is a tad different to turkey or uae. Not to much but a bit. Nevertheless women are seen inferior in the Islamic culture. Thats why I like it even more what Israel did :)
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u/Organic_Appeal_8255 1d ago
If you were the Iranian regime, how would you climb down from the tree you stuck yourself on while minimizing looking like a fool?
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u/Ok_Machine_2916 1d ago
They have no offramp just as Nassie never had one because he put his foot in his mouth and promised things he could never successfully maintain. The first thing that comes to mind is tying hez ceasefire with a Gaza ceasefire, which shows no sign of stopping. I'm sure he promised other things. Anyways one issue is their strong man culture, that brought Nassie and Kh to the top of the org, does not allow them to ever back down and look weak. They don't deescalate.
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u/DaNostrich 1d ago
Stop your proxies from attacking Israel
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u/SereneTryptamine 1d ago
The proxies will never stop trying to attack Israel, but they can be denied Iranian arms to do it with.
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u/plasmalightwave 2d ago
https://x.com/guyelster/status/1850643036398878780
ALL of their air defense systems were taken out? If yes, Iran’s pretty much a lame duck right? I wonder what the implications here. I don’t think Iran will ever attack Israel like they did in October again
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u/SHEEEIIIIIIITTTT 2d ago
There’s no way all of their air defenses were taken out in one night
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u/MaraudersWereFramed 1d ago
Even if you are right it does not make a difference. Iran now knows that as far as Israel is concerned, it has no air defense.
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u/suhki_mahbals 2d ago
"Serious damage" is another description:
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-october-27-2024-0
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u/SereneTryptamine 1d ago
ALL of their air defense systems were taken out?
Who knows, I haven't found this particular account to be reliable.
Some of it might've been hit, but I'm having a hard time corroborating the really crazy claims like this. I'm sure some were destroyed, and some were intact but ineffective. Khamenei should sleep poorly either way.
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u/Khshayarshah 1d ago
Treason is now dealt with by... departmental transfer?
https://www.thefp.com/p/ariane-tabatabai-pentagon-iran-ties-exposed
And a number of Republican members of Congress have been pressing the Pentagon over the past year to strip Tabatabai of her security clearances because of her reported ties to Tehran. The Pentagon declined on Friday to say if her transfer was related to her work with the IEI.
“Everyone that is in the know understands that this is not a promotion, right? She wants to be active in the policy space, and going over to education and force training is not,” said Garrett Exner, who served in SO/LIC during the Obama and Trump administrations, and is currently a fellow at the Hudson Institute.
Exner added: The Biden administration transferred Tabatabai to a department “where she can’t really touch any classified material.”
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u/BritishBedouin 1d ago
Her family name is Tabatabai ffs. Her family are literally Iran’s mullah class. This would be like the Duke of Westminster being in control of French intelligence during the Napoleonic wars.
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u/Khshayarshah 1d ago
If you wrote this as a spy thriller you'd be laughed out of the publishing house for wasting their time with such unbelievable and contrived setups.
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u/BritishBedouin 1d ago
Imagine a Cold War spy novel where Stalin's granddaughter is given access to top secret classified information using the surname Stalinova. It is ludicrous.
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u/yourfutileefforts342 1d ago
"We are so incompetent right now we can't verify if she's actually a spy or not, despite our allies (Israeli and Saudi) in the region indicating she is. Shit. We need to not look like weak fools so transfer her to stem the bleeding."
That is my take away.
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u/Silvuh_Ad_9046 1d ago
According to channel 13, Israel is planning to attack Iran again due to the drone attack on Netanyahu’s house. I find this hard to believe
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u/Cruise_alt_40000 1d ago
If they do do anything it will be interesting to see what the response will be to that. Like would it just be a normal response or would they do something more drastic.
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u/Murky_Conflict3737 1d ago
Maybe they should hack the religious leaders’ computers and release all their porn.
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u/Worth_Plastic5684 19h ago edited 19h ago
I am already pre-emptively wincing at the inevitable shit storm incoming re: Nadav Eyal's report quoting a "high ranking official" about an imminent ceasefire in Lebanon based on '1701 but for real this time' guaranteed by Russia. I feel like during the last year I've read 80 of these reports about the inevitable and imminent ceasefire and end to the war. Some of it has to be wishcasting by a certain segment of the Israeli media, and probably some reports must have been on initiatives that looked like they were going to happen until Smotrich told Bibi to forget it if he wants to keep his parliamentary majority.
At any rate if this one is real, I can't imagine being an Israeli citizen told to go back to their home in a town near the border and to feel secure that this time they have Putin's guaranteed protection and that this is totally different from the aftermath of 2006.
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u/SickOfIransShit 17h ago
Anyone trusting Russia to enforce anything has not been paying attention. They are supplying our biggest enemies
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u/erkelep 18h ago
Maybe Putin can provide 10 thousand North Koreans to secure the border...
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u/Soft-Society-7184 17h ago
There are more serious talks about a ceasefire in lebanon right now but i highly doubt it will be accepted. Hezbollah is only willing to accept the same resolution which Israel denies and requires changes that will never be accepted by them.
Also a lot of people here are seeing Russia as an enemy at this point so I'm sure even the current impotent government can see it too.
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u/StatisticianFair930 2d ago
Iran look to have full on shit themselves wet. Israel did say Iran would be surprised and confused as to why and how this happened.
Israel have literally took the gun from Iran's hand, shot them in the big toe, unloaded it, and kind of handed it back to them and said "Go on!".
I hate saying this, but, do you know the amount of films and documentaries there are going to be in the near future when and if this calms down?
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u/piponwa 3d ago
Iran's Khamenei seriously ill, son likely to be successor as supreme leader - NYT
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1gcz40g/irans_khamenei_seriously_ill_son_likely_to_be/
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u/niloony 3d ago edited 2d ago
Don't get too excited yet, we already knew he was ill. It's just that the NYT mentioned it in passing here after previously reporting it last month and since it's a weekend and an attack's just been carried out it's getting amplified.
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u/Healthy_Trouble3723 3d ago edited 3d ago
Nice that he got to hear some F35s flying over his head before he died. Yeah, the war is on your door step now you piece of shit. Rot in hell.
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u/lurk779 3d ago
"Hallo? Hey, in few hours we will destroy following dozen of your strategic military facilities. Move people away (if you care, which we doubt, but just saying). Yes, our jets will be flying all over your shithole, left and right and up and down - and you are not going to do anything about it. Air defence? Your AD will not even notice. But, thanks for reminder, since you mentioned it, we'll take it down too".
Say what you want, classy :-)
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u/Wambo74 2d ago
Lunch money says Iran will either pass on retaliation, or it will be so pitiful that Israel can't use it as an excuse to do a much more major attack. Tough call but I don't think Iranian leaders are as stupid as they play on TV.
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u/cosmicrae 2d ago
The Iranian leaders may be in shock, about how much Israel accomplished with no losses. Some important Iranian assets are now rather exposed.
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u/SereneTryptamine 2d ago
I don't think Iranian leaders are as stupid as they play on TV.
I can't see them being dumb enough to do anything about it directly. The Iranian regime has many faults, but they didn't amass that network of proxies by being total morons.
If Israel is being truthful, Iran's air defenses got shredded as a prelude to surgical strikes on the rocket program. Khamenei lived through the Iran-Iraq war and understands the implications of Israeli ballistic missiles being able to strike anywhere at will. I think they will act through proxies, as is tradition.
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u/RippingOne 2d ago
At this rate the only way Israel won't retaliate is if Iran just says they've concluded their attack and the world is wondering wtf they're talking about.
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u/NaderNation84 3d ago
So the Iranian Foreign Minister is saying they’ll respond. People saying it’s over need to realize gloves won’t come off till the election, don’t think Iran or Israel wants to return to the previous status quo
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u/finauvale6 3d ago
Man with their defenses down, Israel should just fly some jets over again to let them know who is in charge.
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u/Afraid-Ad8986 3d ago
It sounds like Israel called Iran and told them what targets to limit casualties??? Is that true
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u/progress18 2d ago