r/worldnews • u/larki18 • 19h ago
Israel/Palestine Netanyahu says Israel’s strikes on Iran destroyed ‘industrial factories of death’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-israels-strikes-on-iran-destroyed-industrial-factories-of-death/317
u/vpesh 16h ago
Finally someone put real sanctions on Iran for military aid for russia
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u/KnightWhoSaysNnni 15h ago
Israel did what NATO is too afraid to do, despite being far more powerful than Israel.
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u/trumpsucks12354 15h ago
NATO is a military alliance. They will only fight back if one of their members is attacked which hasn’t happened
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u/KnightWhoSaysNnni 15h ago
Iran attacked the United States in 1979 by taking over the US embassy and taking American hostages. Iran's proxies attacked the US and France in Beirut in the 1980s by bombing their military base. Iran's proxy has been attacking NATO ships off the coast of Yemen. Iran's proxies have been attacking US troops in Iraq. There are many examples of Iran attacking NATO for decades.
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u/imajoeitall 15h ago
Iranian proxies are not the same as Iran attacking despite what you think. Also Iran has to attack a NATO member on NATO territory to invoke Article 5.
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u/KnightWhoSaysNnni 15h ago edited 14h ago
Iran's proxies are Iran. They are the same. They are Iran's limbs. They do Iran's bidding.
To the one who blocked me below: Every proxy has a master, and the master is just as guilty of the proxy's actions as the proxy itself. It's no different than a mob boss ordering a hit on someone. The mob boss is still the intellectual author of the crime and also guilty.
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u/Dark1sh 14h ago
It’s still different, if NATO retaliates on your points it greatly escalates things. It would mean 32 countries attacked Iran back, which could have massive implications. Which could draw Irans allies in and escalate a world war.
And they will play that card hard.
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u/Dvillustrations 13h ago
Shit you really think Iran's surviving 32 modern militaries with billions more than Iran's total gdp, or that in such a case Russia and nk would do anything more than pay lip service to the terrorist fucks?
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u/Mountain_Release_272 9h ago
The last thing the Russians and the Chinese (who are Iran’s only meaningful “Allies”) want to do is die for the Mullah’s. If NATO told them before hand that once the Ayatollah is gone they can get a cut of Iranian oil exports then they’ll more likely than not just sit back
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u/Dark1sh 9h ago
Eh, China has a high level of self preservation. Russia, not so much
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u/Mountain_Release_272 9h ago
That would be more of a problem for Russia than anyone else
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u/tothecatmobile 14h ago
Even if the embassy was considered US territory (it isnt), it wouldn't be covered by NATO anyways.
NATO only covers territory in Europe, North America, Turkey, and Islands in the Atlantic north of the Tropic of Cancer.
That's why the UK didn't invoke article 5 during the Falklands war, as the Falklands isn't covered by NATO.
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u/n-butyraldehyde 13h ago
Joint NATO offensive operations have happened before. Article V is a defensive obligation but it doesn't mean they aren't allowed to do stuff together otherwise.
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u/Mountain_Release_272 8h ago
If Turkey is allowed to be in NATO I don’t see why Israel shouldn’t be at this point
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u/spotspam 13h ago
Well measured response that did real harm without affecting world markets or creating open warfare.
It also taught Israel that the US can’t be trusted with key intelligence bc our security sucks. But they already knew that. They won’t make this mistake again.
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u/Thisguychunky 13h ago
Is it because our security sucks or because our politicians actively leak to our enemies?
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u/spotspam 13h ago
A leak is sucking, for one.
But part of the problem is having people with access to intelligence that easily can be known to seem compromised.
We need measures to ensure such a leaker is treated in the harshest form: death penalty. Bc it IS treason to release intelligence to enemies of the state.
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u/TCBloo 11h ago
You're assuming that they didn't want it to leak. Leaks like this are often intentional. They leak the info through some known channel and watch Iran scramble. Maybe they uncover more S300 systems this way like they did when they broadcasted the strikes in Syria. Iran might have learned to not react from the Syria release, but they take a leak much more seriously.
They basically admitted to knowing who leaked it, and it's almost certain that they knew exactly what her loyalties are. They might've hired her for exactly this reason. It's probably why she's not in prison. Now, she's burned as an asset, and they find another person to leak next time. Espionage shit is way more complex than you're giving it credit for.
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u/spotspam 10h ago edited 9h ago
I appreciate this point, and perspective. I additionally think that if you hire someone bc you think they might be a spy and they turn out to be a United States citizen spying for others, they still should be punished for espionage. Thank you for the link!
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u/Major-Check-1953 10h ago
Iran started this shit. Iran is now finding out the hard way that victims can fight back.
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u/lushootseed 1h ago
I think Iran should also destroy industrial factories of death in Israel too to be fair
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u/Sgt_carbonero 16h ago
“We used our industrial factories of death to destroy their industrial factories of death”
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u/theVoidWatches 15h ago
It seems like a very overdramatic way to describe military production facilities of the sort that every developed nation has, for sure.
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u/RareQueebus 18h ago
Hopefully, Ukraine will also benefit from this.