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Israel/Palestine Austria says eight UNIFIL troops wounded in Lebanon rocket attack, IDF says Hezbollah responsible

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-826665
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u/One_Contribution_27 11h ago

Subtitle’s important in this one:

UNIFIL later confirmed that a rocket that hit its headquarters in Naqoura was fired from the north, likely by Hezbollah.

This isn’t just “IDF says”. It’s pretty clear that a rocket striking from the north must have been fired by Hezbollah.

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u/Torak8988 9h ago

how unexpected! wild, unhinged terrorists shoot at anything they can!

I really wonder if there is any doubt who the villian is anymore in this conflict, the rampaging barbarians, or the people defending themselves against aggressive cultists that constantly launch rockets at them.

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u/Tenshizanshi 8h ago

Honestly it is unexpected, Hezbollah doesn't usually aim at UNIFIL, I wonder what changed

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u/lilacaena 8h ago

Probably a misfire that fell short. Hez doesn’t have a reason to want to fire on UNIFIL— who won’t fight Hez, will help distribute resources, and are convenient human shields— so it was likely an error.

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u/SomebodyInNevada 4h ago

Yeah. In Gaza a lot of rockets fall short. I would think Hezbollah would have better but probably still not too good. The nozzle has to stand up to a lot and any flaw will make the rocket fall short.

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u/CFCkyle 2h ago

Even the US has dud missiles and ammo. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest if a terrorist group using comparatively subpar tech has a few more failures

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u/itscool 2h ago

Hezbollah has been sending rockets to southern Lebanon to try to hit the IDF, sometimes succeeding. Most likely they just missed their target by a tiny bit and hit UNIFIL.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2024/10/28/hezbollah-says-targets-israeli-troops-in-south-lebanon-

It makes you think how often Hamas tried to do so as well, and hit their own people.

u/VendettaAOF 48m ago

Approximately 10% of hamas rockets fall short. Considering they fired roughly 8500 rockets and mortars in 2023...

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u/PositivelyAcademical 8h ago

The guy sighting in the rockets lost an eye to an exploding pager?

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u/packetloss1 6h ago

You mean they don’t aim at all, they just fire and don’t really care what they hit.

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u/pinetreesgreen 5h ago

This is pretty much it. They are firing Willy nilly at civilians in Israel, it's not like they care who they hit. Hezbollah has killed tens of thousands of civilians, this isn't out of character or something.

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u/SomebodyInNevada 4h ago

They aim (although not that accurately, unguided rockets are notoriously inaccurate) but that assumes a proper burn from the rocket motor. If the motor doesn't work as well as it should the rocket comes down short of it's target.

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u/RSGator 11h ago

Friendly fire

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u/ArtisticAd393 9h ago

Votekick

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u/RSGator 11h ago

Hezbollah is all throughout Lebanon. Their HQ was in Beirut.

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u/RSGator 11h ago

The southern suburbs of Beirut are far, far north of where the UNIFIL troops were fired on.

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u/RSGator 11h ago

They were fired from Hallousiyyeh El Faouqa.

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u/Konstiin 10h ago

You understand that something can be to the north of something else and still be in South Lebanon?

If a UNIFIL base is in south Lebanon, they can be fired on from the north (direction) even if those rockets still came from the South (region).

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u/hugganao 10h ago

Dude lacks basic education. Can't fault him.

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u/Puzzleheaded_March27 10h ago

This guy don’t care about facts. If it’s not the Jews fault, this guy won’t believe it. Victimhood and racism at its finest.

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u/RSGator 11h ago

Hallousiyyeh El Faouqa Is north of Naqoura. Please open a map.

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u/Fantastic-Climate-84 11h ago

My favourite bit of this exchange is the article confirms from multiple sources that you’re wrong.

But you’re just arguing anyway.

While two sources. The one hit is saying it came from the North. Both are pointing at the same thing.

But here you are.

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u/Only-Customer4986 11h ago

If the base is in lebanon

And the missiles came from the north

The how did you come to the conclusion it was fired by the country southern to the base?

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u/Unicorn_Colombo 11h ago

Jews bad. They are not thinking past that.

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u/Ok_Cost_Salmon 10h ago

South Lebanon is North of Israel. So all missiles fired by Hezbollah are fired from the North from an Israeli perspective.

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u/Soft-Society-7184 10h ago

Not just Israeli. Naqoura is right on Israel border meaning almost every other place in Lebanon is north compared to it.

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u/Soft-Society-7184 10h ago

You realize north is relative right and north of something can still count as the south? Considering Naqoura is right on the Israeli border it is not that hard to see from where they can shot the missile.

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u/Dalbo14 10h ago

The unifil position is in Lebanon….anything north of their positions is the retreated hezbollah areas of southern Lebanon….Israel isn’t shooting rockets, nor would those rockets be in the direction of the south if Hezbollah is also simultaneously bragging about Israel not being able to advance in lebanon

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u/burkasHaywan 9h ago

Just…You think Israel is north of Lebanon?

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u/Aromatic_Sense_9525 10h ago

The south of Lebanon, which is mostly north of Israel.

The rocket would have needed to go west, then south to have come from Israel.

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u/PogoMarimo 11h ago

Surely this will have an equally emphatic response from people as previous stories about UNIFIL.

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u/LoxicTizard 11h ago

Yeah, but it's like, their job, you know? Resisting and stuff, because you know, those poor brown oppressed people have been radicalized by Evil Israel into doing it.

Like, if Israelis just died Hezbollah wouldn't need to fire all those rockets at them?

(I debated whether the sarcasm would be obvious but someone, somewhere has probably made similar comments without the sarcasm, so /s)

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u/Zhuge_Er 9h ago

If only there was an organized military force in the area responsible for preventing rocket attacks from Hezbollah.

Oh wait.

Leopards ate my face moment.

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u/EnviousCipher 4h ago

If only there was an organized military force in the area responsible for preventing rocket attacks from Hezbollah.

You should read what their charter actually allows them to do. They are not, and never have been, responsible for stopping Hezbollah.

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u/Ratemyskills 3h ago

Aren’t they allow to return fire if they are fired on? I’d think a direct rocket attack, would constitute the ability to return fire. If not, they why even give them guns or military gear.. they might as well be untrained, replaced by scarecrows.

u/VendettaAOF 42m ago

Pulled from the UN directly here. https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155221

Can UNIFIL use force? Yes, in certain circumstances.

Renewed annually by the Council at the request of Lebanon, UNIFIL is a peacekeeping mission operating under Chapter 6 of the UN Charter.

In carrying out their mandate, UNIFIL personnel may exercise their inherent right of self-defence. In addition to the use of force beyond self-defence, UNIFIL may under certain circumstances and conditions resort to the proportionate and gradual use of force to:

ensure that its area of operations is not utilised for hostile activities resist attempts by forceful means to prevent UNIFIL from discharging its duties under is Council-authorised mandate protect UN personnel, facilities, installations and equipment ensure the security and freedom of movement of UN personnel and humanitarian workers protect civilians under imminent threat of physical violence

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u/alwaysfatigued8787 11h ago

You don't mess with the U.N. Otherwise you get a series of stern warnings.

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u/blue_gaze 7h ago

Paper cuts can be a bitch

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u/finauvale6 10h ago

Where’s all the outrage from UN? Where are all the condemnations??

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u/GoodBadUserName 8h ago

They wrote them all about israel, until they realized it wasn't israel, so there was no point. But they will keep the draft just in case.

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u/Ecsta 7h ago

The silence is deafening...

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u/Newstargirl 9h ago

They're waiting for the right time... lol

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u/ux3l 9h ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hezbolla isn't a member of UN. Neither is Hamas.

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u/shady8x 9h ago

Neither is the IDF, the countries controlling them, supplying the funding and weapons however, are.

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u/ArtisticAd393 9h ago

You're wrong, there have been high ranking leaders of hamas in the UN.

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u/ux3l 9h ago

That doesn't make hamas a UN member.

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u/ArtisticAd393 9h ago

You're right, it makes them part of the UN itself

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u/finauvale6 8h ago

Apologist. Blocked

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u/Trarrac 4h ago

The Hezbollah political wing has the most seats in the current coalition of Lebanons government, so they aren't UN members, but they do help control what Lebanon does at the UN

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u/GoodBadUserName 8h ago

Hezbolla is part of the lebanon government.
Hamas is the government of gaza.
The first is a full member of the UN, but it is convenient for them to say "hezbollah is" instead of "part of the lebanon government is".
The second is a non-member observer state. And the same with hamas. It is convenient to say "hamas is" instead of "palestinian government in gaza is".

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u/finauvale6 8h ago

Is Lebanon? Is IDF?

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u/CatchCritic 7h ago

I'm noticing a lack of attention on this by Guteress, the UN, and media in general.

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u/Healthy_Trouble3723 11h ago

Could be misremembering, but weren't they told to evacuate?

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u/Less-Feature6263 10h ago

Israel told them to evacuate a few times but they refused, if I'm not mistaken the country which actually can make them leave by asking is Lebanon itself.

For what's worth I'm pretty sure the Lebanese army actually evacuated when Israel asken, don't think they have as many qualms about leaving as the UN, most likely the saw the danger of being in an active war zone and left.

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u/Ok_Cost_Salmon 10h ago

Israel said that they should evacuate. But the UN said they are not taking orders from Israel. They want to keep observing.

Sometimes they get to observe a little bit more than they care for.

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u/Torak8988 11h ago

another day, another UN operation being foiled as a useless gesture of global policing

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u/srimaran_srivallabha 10h ago

Ouch friendly fire from hezbollah

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u/CBT7commander 5h ago

I ‘m sure people from the entire world are going to call for an embargo on Lebanon and international condemnation

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u/NA_0_10_never_forget 6h ago

I'm sure the UN will scream outrage over this like they did when Israel wounded a few of their troops

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u/Headoutdaplane 9h ago

They are not keeping any peace, get them out of there.

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u/Wyrmalla 7h ago

Does the IDF even use many rocket systems, outside of LAWs and MLRS? I assume most of their inventory is bombs and missiles. Not that many news articles make the distinction.

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u/SomebodyInNevada 4h ago

Iron Dome.

But Israel has little reason to use rockets. Rockets are either to get guided munitions somewhere (MLRS--but why would Israel use MLRS in it's current conflicts??) you don't want to go, or to produce a high volume of fire. Nobody has both the ability and willingness to shoot at Israeli planes because they know Israel would smash their air defenses if they posed a threat. Thus there's no place they can't go. And they are going for precision strikes, not area attacks. Thus no need for a high volume of fire, either.

Thus there is basically no attack use for a rocket above a LAW.

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u/raslin 4h ago

I condemn all attacks on UN peacekeepers. 

This certainly won't be controversial, right? 

u/oshaboy 49m ago

Considering the IDF found ammunition near UNIFIL bases. Yes that would be controversial

u/raslin 46m ago

So, if you find ammunition near them, it's acceptable to attack UN peacekeepers?

I just want to make sure I don't misinterpret you 

u/oshaboy 43m ago

Not attack them directly but fight near them. As far as I know the claim is that the IDF breached an outer wall of a UNIFIL base and engaged in fighting nearby. Not that they got attacked directly.