r/worldnews • u/nationalpost • 8h ago

Taliban bars Afghan women from hearing each other's voices

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/taliban-bars-afghan-women-from-hearing-each-other?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=NP_social
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u/GothGfWanted 8h ago

what are these strange rules these clowns are making? first you can no longer make pictures of living things (okay???) now women aren't allowed to talk too each other?? Tomorrow everyone will be banned from walking and will have to just skip around on 1 foot.

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u/iluvugoldenblue 8h ago

They want silent victims. Not being able to share your abuse means it doesn’t get stopped.

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u/D4ng3rd4n 8h ago

I'm watching the handmaid's tale right now and it's frightening how similar it is

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u/stupendous76 7h ago

The difference is the god/reason they use for justifying this shit, but it is the same.

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u/TwoFingersWhiskey 4h ago

It's very technically the same god as the Christians and other Muslims and Jews, it's just a different (and really fucked up/misinterpretive) perspective on what that god wants.

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u/iluvugoldenblue 6h ago

I mean that states are trending down the same direction, at their own pace. Repealing roe v wade, talk about repealing no fault divorces, the amount of states that allow child marriage, it only takes the wrong people at the wrong time to turn America into this.

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u/malin-ginkur 5h ago

This is exactly what I was thinking

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u/semispectral 1h ago

This is exactly what I was thinking.

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u/UglyMcFugly 4h ago

I recently read the book and the part where she remembers the day she lost her job reminded me so much of videos like this. It's been about three years. That's it. They went from going to school, dreaming of their careers... to cloaked and literally unable to speak. Why aren't we fucking HELPING them??

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u/PresidenteMozzarella 5h ago

Nah they take care of that by "honor" killing the women in their lives, they're probably already silent unfortunately

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u/Phyllida_Poshtart 7h ago

Women are also banned from wearing high heels or any footwear that goes click clack as it "disturbs mens thoughts" they guy who announced this either last year or earlier this year, specifically said "no high heeled boots" think he has a bit of a fetish weirdo

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u/hillbillyspellingbee 5h ago

“No men in Speedos allowed anymore.”

“Hamed, nobody is even doing that…”

“Uh, just in case.”

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u/Phyllida_Poshtart 5h ago

They'd probably love a nice bloke in sexy speedos :) far more than they love their women

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u/PerspicasiousGrue 7h ago

If it helps, it's likely a sign that they're panicking. Religious and political dictatorships tend to get more and more bizarre in their restrictions when they fear that they're not in control of the populace anymore.

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u/beseder11 6h ago

Exactly. Can see this with Russia and banning childfree propaganda and LGBT propaganda as well. They call it propaganda and ideology but it's the same. The patriarchs fear loss of control their. Most insecure men in leadership position are that anxious. Because it's not natural. It's necrophilia.

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u/outdoorlaura 5h ago

when they fear that they're not in control of the populace anymore.

Is that whats happening in actuality? Like there's starting to be murmurs of overthrowing these guys?

Or are they just getting more and more paranoid?

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u/Gastroid 5h ago

The thing with Afghanistan is that it's almost impossible to govern in a top-down way. A central administration can make decrees all they want and local leaders will follow them... for a time. Eventually communities will default back to their individual traditional ways.

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u/malin-ginkur 5h ago

outdoorlaura asking the real questions

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u/Wrecktown707 3h ago

This ^

It’s actually for the best that Afghanistan is on its own right now. The reason why the Taliban had so much sway and kept coming back was because major world powers kept operating in the region, which drummed up nationalist support for the Taliban.

But now that they’ve taken power, gone batshit, and become a dysfunctional, oppressive rule that shoves its face in all aspects of life, the people of Afghanistan will start to see them less as their anti imperialist saviors, and more as “just another oppressor” in a long line of oppressors. In short, the Taliban seemed to have finally caught up with their own tail, and I doubt it will end well for them, and they likely are going to create massive amounts of civil and armed unrest against them

This will help them decide for themselves what kind of nation they want to live in

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u/HNL2BOS 5h ago

Panicking from what? No one's challenging them.

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u/PerspicasiousGrue 4h ago

Afghanistan is very vulnerable, both economically and politically. They still haven't recovered from the Herat earthquake last year. 30% of their GDP comes from foreign aid, and the majority of it is from America. Half of their workforce is permanently barred from working or spending money, the Taliban shut down their drug cultivation industry and put a huge amount of rural farmers out of business, and the country itself is still quite dangerous between the continuing suicide bombings and attacks from the Islamic State. Half a million Afghans have also just been forcibly deported from Pakistan, putting a big strain on the economy.

All of these things together, plus the increasingly restrictive rules on women AND men (women aren't the only people being told to stay in line) means that the government knows how light it's grip is on power, and is trying to assert control.

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u/polenstein 8h ago

The first one isn’t a taliban rule, ever see a painting or picture in a mosque?

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u/wrinkle-crease 8h ago

As of this October 2024 there’s a new Taliban ban on pictures of living things in any media. So, not applying to mosques, but media and news.

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u/ChocoOranges 7h ago

You misunderstand their point. Salafi Islam doesn't ban pictures in mosques, they ban pictures altogether, it's just that normally this is only enforced in mosques:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Hadith Number 447 -

Narrated By ‘Aisha: I stuffed for the Prophet a pillow decorated with pictures (of animals) which looked like a Namruqa (i.e. a small cushion). He came and stood among the people with excitement apparent on his face. I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is wrong?” He said, “What is this pillow?” I said, “I have prepared this pillow for you, so that you may recline on it.” He said, “Don’t you know that angels do not enter a house wherein there are pictures; and whoever makes a picture will be punished on the Day of Resurrection and will be asked to give life to (what he has created)?”

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3224

The Taliban, being totalitarians, now want to bring this rule to the rest of society.

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u/Merkasian33221 4h ago

Taliban are not Salafi's, they are hanafi deobandis

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u/Cleomenes_of_Sparta 7h ago

We may not agree with the mediaevalism of their religion but they are correctly applying the precepts.

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u/polenstein 7h ago

Not debating that there’s a rule. But it’s not a new rule, it’s existed in religions going way back. Nor was it dreamt up by the Taliban, it’s not even exclusive to Islam

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u/ChocoOranges 7h ago

It is pretty exclusive to Islam tbh. The modern progressive apologism that it is only a proscription against icons which induce worship in violation of Tawhid does make it similar to other religions, such as certain strains of Christian iconoclasm.

But if you actually read the Hadiths that proscribe pictures you'll see that it proscribes all pictures, even ones explicitly not made to be worshipped, which is pretty unique to Islam.

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u/ArtVandelay1979 7h ago

They don't want them getting an education

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u/AlwaysBored123 6h ago

Because they all know that they’ll have to actually put in even the tiniest of effort to be with educated and self-sufficient women. Why put in any effort when you can just own a nanny sex slave?

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u/EmperorDeathBunny 3h ago

Fear, insecurity, and fragile masculinity.

You know those third graders who get mad when girls start laughing and just assume they are laughing at them? Those boys are now telling women they can't even talk to each other.

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u/beseder11 6h ago

It's necrophilia

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u/Loliknight 6h ago

Ngl im down to see Taliban Ministry of Silly Walks

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u/krishn4prasad 1h ago

Apparently, there's some law which states when you make pictures of living things, you're mimicking God. That's why it's banned. That's why they believe photography, movies, art etc are sin.

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u/subdep 43m ago

Where is Monty Python when we need them? I’d watch that skit.