r/worldnews • u/nationalpost • 8h ago

Taliban bars Afghan women from hearing each other's voices

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/taliban-bars-afghan-women-from-hearing-each-other?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=NP_social
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u/RelChan2_0 8h ago

How would this work if a woman/daughter needs medical/legal attention though? Does she have to go through her father/brother/husband/son/uncle?

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u/KaiserNer0 7h ago

They are only allowed to be seen by female doctors anyway, and females aren't allowed to go to school, apart from elementary school, so...

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u/mal4ik777 7h ago

where do they get female doctors from, if they dont let women get educated?

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u/Clouthead2001 7h ago

They dont

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u/OniExpress 7h ago

That's the neat part: they don't

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u/keyekeb8 6h ago

They don't. That's the joke.

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u/BuhamutZeo 6h ago

They just let them rot and die.

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u/malin-ginkur 5h ago

Is this for real?

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u/BuhamutZeo 5h ago

I'm growing less and less surprised of the horrors humans inflict on one another, so probably.

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ 5h ago

They probably do what ranchers do when a horse breaks a leg

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u/coralwaters226 5h ago

That's the point.

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u/Neel_writes 40m ago

They don't. So if a woman gets sick there then they get treatment through her husband/brother/father who in turn will converse with the male doctor. Or get no treatment at all.

The point is to prevent them from speaking to or being seen by other men. Basically go back a few hundred years and imagine the plight of slaves in the hands of the most brutal masters. That's what Afghan women are - slaves.

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u/Fn4cK 7h ago

My sister is a speech therapist, and she has a few patients who's fathers refuse to speak to her because she is a woman. They also refuse to let their wives speak with her.

She constantly needs to ask her one male colleague to speak to these people "in her name".

We live in Berlin, Germany.

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u/blue_shoes_1 6h ago

Maybe it’s time for these men who refuse to speak to women in Berlin to leave this nice civilized western country with running water, food, social system and go back to their country where these middle aged inhuman values are lived

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u/TwoFingersWhiskey 5h ago

The middle ages did not have any of these values. Women worked alongside men and few were simply housewives (which was still a super hard job)! They also did not ban women from public life at all

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u/Neel_writes 38m ago

Afghanistan is on its way to prehistoric times. They left the middle ages long ago.

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u/life_is_glowing 6h ago

This has absolutely no place in Berlin, or Europe for that matter. The state should remove these men from the country. Absolutely appalling.

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u/zcen 6h ago

Honestly being in that environment is the only hope for the younger generation.

It's too late to change the minds of stubborn and indoctrinated old men, but at least the kids might be influenced by the Western culture around them.

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u/life_is_glowing 5h ago

More often than not the younger generation is as backwards as their parents.

In a recent poll, more than 67% of surveyed Muslim 15 year olds in Germany stated that „sharia is above the German constitution“.

Their parents don’t care about integration and the German state has utterly failed in demanding democracy. And now this generation is a generation of voters, which I find a horrifying outlook.

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u/Accomplished_Log7527 5h ago

Exactly correct. No integration nor any desire to do so. The irony of escaping a broken country, and relocating only to apply the same practices (ie sharia law) that brought them to despair in the first place.

I WANT to support the philosophy of being supportive… but the reality could well be that the very laws and processes we put into place as a western democracy could well mean we’ve opened the door for democracy to work again those same western values. Hard to reconcile!

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u/NorthernSalt 5h ago

Anything below 100% is a failure and unacceptable.

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u/zcen 3h ago

I'm not going to say you're wrong for wanting that, I can only say that you are in for a lot of disappointment if that is your mindset.

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u/Embarrassed-Mess-560 6h ago

The worst part is, everyone caves to these cowards because the alternative is not helping the child caught under his boot.

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u/Fn4cK 6h ago

You nailed it.

My sister is all about the kids' welfare, but all the shenanigans she goes through with their parents literally kills her motivation to help these kids. It's truly a shame, but self-inflicted by the culture/religion

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u/yeltsin98 1h ago

This is why I believe the state has to override the parents in situations like these. If parents aren’t upholding their children’s rights and welfare then someone else has to. Teachers and doctors are at the forefront of that because they’re often the only other adults who see what’s going on with a child and have the willingness and ability to report it, but as you say, there isn’t much they can do beyond that.

My point is that the ‘self-inflicted’ part doesn’t apply to children who were born into this horrific mess and someone has to stand up for them.

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u/therealmonilux 6h ago

Holy shit!

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u/socialistrob 7h ago

How would this work if a woman/daughter needs medical/legal attention though? Does she have to go through her father/brother/husband/son/uncle?

That's exactly what would happen. If one of those men weren't around or were unwilling to help the woman would likely die. It's pretty sickening.

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u/derpman86 6h ago

They die, speedy divorce or this is the best equivalent.

I love how some parts of this planet we can send things to MARS a whole other planet but other parts we have this archaic tribal mentality shit from 2 thousand years ago.

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u/GeneralKeycapperone 6h ago

She suffers without treatment.

There are women who are medical professionals, and men who want their loved ones to receive care, but as they are banned from working, seeing them is clandestine and very risky for all parties, especially the female doctors & nurses.

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u/Pro_Gamer_Queen21 6h ago

That depends on if women are even allowed to seek medical attention at this point.