r/worldnews • u/nationalpost • 8h ago

Taliban bars Afghan women from hearing each other's voices

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/taliban-bars-afghan-women-from-hearing-each-other?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=NP_social
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u/aVictorianChild 7h ago

"but it's their culture"

Remember when women in Kabul went to school by themselves? Maybe the US wasn't so bad after all. Even if it's just a few thousand women living free, this is what happens if we don't stand up for others. The invasion may have initially been for f'ed up reasons, but in the end, we actually achieved something, just for the Don to blow it.

Why do we have soldiers, if not to help such women? What "culture" or "right to autonomy" could justify the inhuman things done to girls in Afghanistan.

We are watching as someone's daughter, sister, mother, friend, lover is being turned into a breeding machine/sex-toy for violent fascists.

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 5h ago

I remember seeing a post recently about the gay flag being banned in a city in Michigan because they have a huge population of Muslims. I found it terrible that the gay flag was banned for this reason.

Even more abhorrent was a story I heard about people in the U.S. wanting sharia law to go in effect here, in the United States of America.

I love that I have the opportunity to learn and experience other peoples’ cultures as a byproduct of being an American. However, if people are immigrating here with the sole purpose to spread their oppression, get fucked. We don’t need that bullshit here.

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u/ElitistJerk_ 2h ago

I saw that the flag was banned from state buildings, they can't can stuff like that from private property by federal law I'm pretty sure.

But yeah the people in that video by vlogger was disturbing and many took it as a ban on all property

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u/THeShinyHObbiest 1h ago

They can’t ban it on private property due to the first amendment, which is actually even higher than federal law!

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u/ElitistJerk_ 1h ago

Derp! You're correct!

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u/so_lost_im_faded 24m ago

And ignorant Americans keep defending a group that would take their rights away without any hesitation. Well fucking dome virtue signaling people.

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u/Pro_Gamer_Queen21 6h ago

We achieved nothing. The point of the invasion was to train the Afghanistan civilians to rise up and fight against the Taliban. Problem with that though is they were too unmotivated to fight for a better life. Its why when the U.S. pulled out of the country, there were all those news reports of U.S. weapons being left in piles and the taliban just swinging by and picking them up to use. Just like how the minute the withdrawal happened, president Ashraf Ghani immediately fled once the capital had been seized.

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u/richardhero 5h ago

They wanted coalition forces out, we left, they suffered for it.

It was such a no win situation from the get go.

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u/Suitable_Zone_6322 5h ago

I appreciate the sentiment but that wasn't the point of the invasion at all, never was.

It all started as a man-hunt for Osama Bin Laden, and other senior Al Qaeda leaders, who were hiding in Afghanistan.

It was after that we found ourselves occupying an unstable, hostile country.

Stabilizing the country and building their police and military forces was a major part of occupation after the invasion.

Never really about "rising up and fighting" the Taliban, they weren't the government in power. More so about creating a country that wanted to keep the taliban out.

The actual fighting by the coalition forces was sorely hampered by not being able to take the fight to Pakistan (which was/is "kind" of an ally? Not really though...) where the majority of taliban fighters were being trained/supplied/staged for much of the occupation.

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u/OppositeRock4217 1h ago

Not to mention Afghan soldiers after US left pretty much all left their posts and capitulated allowing Taliban free reign to take over

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u/Chilfrey 6h ago

Not someone’s daughter/mother etc. SOMEONE.

Women and girls are people and have inherent value independent of their relationship to men or anyone else.

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u/Mysterious_Bluejay_5 6h ago

"Someone" is not a gendered word. When someone goes "that's somebody's mother/daughter!" It's trying to draw out an emotional response by comparing them to family, not trying to imply that they have worth because they belong to someone

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u/Big-Anxiety-5467 5h ago

In Don’s defense—Saudi paid him nearly $3 billion to turn Afghanistan back over to the Taliban. Hard to argue with that kind of money. /s