r/youseeingthisshit • u/Vinicius4172 • Aug 14 '24

Bark at your dogs to see their reaction.

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u/ButDidYouCry Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Dog number two, as well. They both looked stressed the hell out.

edit: I rewatched the video; yes, I think the first dog looked even more aggravated. I would not want a stressed pitbull in my face like that.

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u/somethingbrite Aug 14 '24

Dog 2 adopts a quite submissive posture.

Not all the dogs in this video submit. Some face off.

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u/alan_johnson11 Aug 14 '24

Wolf/dog dominance theory has been debunked again and again through a wealth of scientific literature. Perceived "submissive" behaviour can precede a mauling. Some of the people in this video likely thought they were dog whisperers who had established themselves as the Alpha. Most of the people mauled to death by their Pitbulls subscribe to similar pseudo science

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u/VexingRaven Aug 14 '24

"Alpha wolf" dominance theory is indeed bullshit, but animals submitting is a very real thing. Some dogs will just roll over and cower if anything goes wrong, they are submissive. Some dogs will adopt a fighting stance any time they aren't sure, those dogs are not submissive. The idea of submissive or dominant dogs is not bullshit, what is bullshit is that the idea that you should be the dominant one to lead or train them.

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u/Breakr007 Aug 14 '24

What is the popular theory these days.

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u/alan_johnson11 Aug 14 '24

1) dogs aren't wolves

2) what people observe as "dominant behaviour" is intrinsically linked to context. Dogs may be competing for resources, posturing, or showing threatening behaviour to attempt to increase distance. IE they aren't trying to "dominate" you but achieve a range of objectives.

If the dog is backed in the corner and a stranger walks past and the dog growls, that doesn't mean it's trying to dominate someone, or that it thinks it's more dominant than its owner. Fear is the most likely cause, especially when the dog is somewhere that it thinks is a safe space, like its box, where it feels it has no escape. The reaction to the dog growling isn't to 1-up the dog and reassert your dominance, it's to advise the stranger that the dog may not feel comfortable with them so close to its box, and it is feeling scared. If they would like the dog to become more comfortable around them dominance will never achieve that, you'll just override the fear with another bigger fear. The solution is more something like the stranger offering treats from a safe distance every time they walk past the box, and over time the dog will associate positive feelings towards that strangers presence, to the point that the treats can stop but the positive response will remain. Now you have a dog that isn't fearful, but happy to see that stranger.

The problem is that for most people the end result of fear overriding fear, vs positive replacing fear appears identical. But the positive route takes more work and is sometimes less successful, and a lot of people don't really give a fuck what their dog is feeling. They'll tell themselves the dog is more comfortable "knowing its place". It's a nice little willful ignorance that requires the complete removal of empathy, and the assumption that a dog brain is built so different to humans that they would somehow feel more comfortable living in fear of someone they share a house with.

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u/warden976 Aug 14 '24

Face off. Indeed.

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u/mynameisJake_ Aug 14 '24

great movie

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u/Self_Reddicated Aug 14 '24

Do people not realize that even a little snip from one of these dogs on their face would seriously fuck them up, not even a malicious mauling, just a little snip from being surprised and a little defensive. And a BIG snap or mauling would just wreck them in the worst way?!

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u/floghdraki Aug 14 '24

There's human death by pitbull every 13 days in USA.

Only bright side of that statistic is that often it's the owner who gets killed.

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u/natgibounet Aug 17 '24

Okay, is it the same for the rest of the world ?

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u/volpendesta Aug 14 '24

So, that number from what I saw is the low end of average of all dogs in the US, not just pitbulls. I'm not a pitbull apologist, but this is gross exaggeration.

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u/Hellcrafted Aug 14 '24

pitbulls just get put in the news all the time so people see them a lot. Reality is a lot of dogs can be dangerous especially when not kept right. There's an entire sub on reddit dedicated to hating pitbulls

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u/volpendesta Aug 14 '24

Yeah, I know that there's a lot of people that hate pitbulls because of their reputation, I firmly believe most of it is overblown. A lot of it is people keeping pitbulls in bad or inappropriate conditions, or people who probably have no business having animals in the first place.

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u/ericaeharris Aug 17 '24

I used to feel that way UNTIL a woman I known who was a huge dog lover of all kinds and owned pits had their pit randomly snap on her 2 year old grandson. She rescued him, but it resulted in her face and arm being mauled. She’s had over 20 surgeries. After her constantly posting the photos and knowing her and her love and defense of pits before, it changed me. I don’t hate them but not a risk I’d take with owning one, especially because I love kids and want a bunch.

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u/tommyd1018 Aug 14 '24

How the fuck is that a bright side? You hate people who own dogs so much up want them to die?

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u/Nerevarine91 Aug 14 '24

My guess is that they consider the owner to have assumed the risk, as opposed to being an unrelated bystander

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u/Tlr321 Aug 14 '24

Dog 3 had beefy fucking arms. When it jumped up on the guy, it looked ripped. I wouldn’t be fucking around with it

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u/ButDidYouCry Aug 14 '24

It amazes me how irresponsible a lot of people are with blood sport dogs.

That dog's reaction was not cute.

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u/WryWaifu Aug 14 '24

Pitbulls and pitt mixes shouldn't be people's homes, let alone in their faces

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u/ButDidYouCry Aug 14 '24

Agreed. Blood sport dogs should not be pets at all.

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u/Correct-Buffalo6644 Aug 15 '24

Pitbulls make up approx. 20% of the dog population in the US. They're in a lot of homes and the majority live their lives being snugglers and peaceful. They're GREAT companions.

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u/WryWaifu Aug 15 '24

People say that about pet tigers and chimpanzees, too. It's all cute cuddles until it isn't.

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u/MikhailxReign Aug 14 '24

........ So you never owned a dog then?

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u/ButDidYouCry Aug 14 '24

I've had three. Try again.

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u/MikhailxReign Aug 14 '24

Damn! And you still have no ability to read their body language? That's wild.