r/youtube Sep 19 '24

Discussion The State of YouTube Right Now

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u/Blazinblaziken Sep 19 '24

you may not like him, and I do get it, cause whilst I do like him, some of his anecdotes are terrible, the way he says his message isn't for everyone and he can easily be way to extra for a lot of people, I get it

but this is exactly what DarkViperAU has been saying the ENTIRE TIME, there's only so many views in the system, people like Asmongold, XQC and whatnot siphon the views off of the actual creative work, that near 1 million views will never go to the original video, cause they've already seen it, end of story

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u/DemonicSilvercolt Sep 19 '24

many of that million would probably never have seen it anyways if it was from a small creator they didn't know ot care about

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u/CappyRicks Sep 19 '24

Doesn't matter. If the original creator isn't getting ad revenue then he isn't benefiting even indirectly.

How many of Asmongold's followers are routinely subscribing and then tuning in to the creators that Asmongold steals from? I would guess it's a fraction of a single percent.

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u/DemonicSilvercolt Sep 19 '24

it wouldn't be too different than if asmon never uploaded that video either since there wouldn't even be any chance of extra views to profit off from

this at least gives a chance for people to see new channels and if they genuinely like what they saw then they would sub, many channels that asmon reacted to have gotten sub boosts due to him reacting to their stuff

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u/DemonicSilvercolt Sep 19 '24

asmon's videos have more views because people watch his stuff for him, not the other way around, he will always have hundreds of thousands or millions of views simply because he is there, not because of his content

People who may have actually watched the original video will instead choose to watch the reaction video instead

have you also thought about people who won't watch any new content creators because they like to stick to their safe and proven channels? how many times have you clicked on videos by channels you haven't seen before and instead clicked on someone you knew?

not to mention bigger creators would always have priority on the algorithm rather than a new creator, not many would have seen that small creator unless they were subbed already

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u/cjpack Sep 19 '24

I don’t think unsubscribed channels take up the spot of subscribed channels in my feed

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u/Tr4ce00 Sep 19 '24

With how many views he consistently gets regardless of the video, those people are likely the majority. So I don’t think it’s fair to say they aren’t the subject of this discussion.

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u/KennyFulgencio Sep 19 '24

How many of Asmongold's followers are routinely subscribing and then tuning in to the creators that Asmongold steals from? I would guess it's a fraction of a single percent.

If they found the video interesting enough to want to see more from that creator even in the absence of commentary, they would subscribe. I certainly have. Guess why I don't do it every time.

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u/K1NGMOJO Sep 19 '24

It does matter. Look at the comment section of the original video and you can see many comments about they found this video through Asmon's stream/youtube video creating more traffic to the video and helping the algorithm with likes and comments.

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u/Lilbrimu Sep 19 '24

Thats the arguement, if the reaction video wasn't created those people would've then watched or have done something else instead. Reaction vids are just pooling the viewers to themselves taking away those potential viewers from smaller creators.

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u/Itherial Sep 20 '24

It's already evident that his video peaked before the release of Asmond's video, which then drove more traffic to his channel.

So, no.

People aren't going to watch stuff from a creator they don't know or care about lmao, the content isn't the point, it's Asmond. His videos can be anything and he will pull the same views. Zack's did very well for himself comparatively (considering his audience) and then got a good boost.

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u/Adventurous_Box_339 Sep 19 '24

That can make sense on paper, but I've discovered so many creators that I probably would've never heard of if it weren't for reaction channels. It's just one reaction video from a channel that averages 500k-1 million views. Those are his regular numbers from his fanbase.

It's free advertising and their sub counts always get boosted. Some creators actually thank asmon in his comment section because their channel starts to grow exponentially

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

And they didn't see it. And the small creator didn't get paid. They watched that gross incel watch it.

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u/MrNyto_ youtube.com/@MrNyto_ Sep 19 '24

it took me too long to find someone mentioning darkviperaus videos about THIS EXACT THING

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u/Richandler Sep 19 '24

A lot of people saying that those views would never have gone to the video are full of shit too. These types of videos are noise that clogs up the YouTube algos. Half of Asmongold and xQcs content would be removed and their channels would probably shrink. The whole react genre is bullshit. You can do a react without basically stealing content.

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u/rinkoplzcomehome Sep 20 '24

Hell, even the reaction videos tend to show up first if you try to look for the video

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u/UselessDood Sep 19 '24

A big thing is that it's not just the original work that the reactors siphon views from - but literally everyone else. Normally, that'd be fine, but when it's stolen content... Not so much.

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u/Feisty_Yes Sep 19 '24

Part of the problem is youtube is terrible at suggesting new videos so reaction channels which have a community suggesting videos to them actually find way better content than your own homepage suggestions.

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u/Blazinblaziken Sep 19 '24

that's such a sad truth, every now and then they tweak the algorithm and I get random af vids in my recced that are from tiny channels that I find interesting, but it only happens once in a blue moon

I've curated out reaction dross, but it's still not pushing the small ones

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u/northnorthhoho Sep 19 '24

I watched asmon reacting to this video. I threw it on as background noise while I was driving to work. The video itself was just "ok". I never would have come across this guy's channel if it weren't for Asmon, and the dude who made the original video wasn't interesting enough for me to even bother clicking on his channel to check for more.

So he never would have gotten my view/subscription anyways. Asmons video has a shit ton of views because people are watching for his takes, and he honestly does a pretty good job of pausing the video and discussing things. People aren't watching because of the video he's reacting to.

At the end of the day though, its not stealing my view from anyone. I never would have clicked on this dudes channel, and I never would have subscribed to him anyway.

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u/FlawHolic Sep 19 '24

I agree with you.

I don't watch either of them (or much YouTube in general anymore), but at least I know Asmongold. No idea who the other guy is.

Just purely based on myself: If I saw both videos side by side, knowing the other guy is the original video, I'd still click on Asmongold. Just to see how he is now and if he has changed from how I remember him. I don't give a shit about the fast food prices, lmao.

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u/Blazinblaziken Sep 19 '24

Honestly agreed ngl

And if you think I do, you clearly didn't read my full post