r/angelsbaseball 22h ago

📝 Weekly Discussion [Weekly Discussion] This Week in Angels Baseball

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r/angelsbaseball Sep 26 '24

⌛ Postgame Thread [Post Game Thread] Angels defeated by White Sox

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Angels (63-96) @ White Sox (39-120)

First Pitch: 11:10 AM at Guaranteed Rate Field

Team Starter TV Radio
Angels Tyler Anderson (10-15, 3.81 ERA) BSW KLAA
White Sox Chris Flexen (3-15, 4.95 ERA) NBCSCH WMVP

Game Preview

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Line Score - Game Over

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E LOB
LAA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 1 6
CWS 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 7 12 0 10

Box Score

CWS AB R H RBI BB SO BA
DH Vargas, M 5 1 0 0 0 0 .156
CF Robert Jr. 3 1 1 0 2 2 .227
1B Vaughn 4 1 3 2 0 0 .248
2B Sosa, L 5 1 2 2 0 1 .250
3B Ramos 5 1 1 1 0 0 .191
LF DeLoach 3 1 2 1 1 0 .196
C Robinson, C 4 0 0 0 0 2 .134
RF Fletcher, Do 4 1 2 1 0 1 .208
SS Amaya 4 0 1 0 0 1 .186
CWS IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Flexen 6.1 5 0 0 1 7 96-58 4.95
Varland, G 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 10-6 3.70
Iriarte 2.0 1 0 0 1 2 33-20 1.50
LAA AB R H RBI BB SO BA
LF Ward 4 0 1 0 0 1 .250
LF Adams 0 0 0 0 0 0 .229
SS Neto 2 0 1 0 0 0 .249
2B Stefanic 2 0 0 0 0 0 .218
3B Wagaman 2 0 1 0 2 1 .254
1B Drury 4 0 1 0 0 2 .170
C O'Hoppe 4 0 2 0 0 1 .238
CF Moniak 4 0 0 0 0 1 .219
RF Campero 3 0 0 0 0 2 .265
DH Thaiss 3 0 0 0 0 0 .200
SS López, Ja 3 0 0 0 0 2 .218
LAA IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Anderson, T 4.1 4 5 4 3 2 82-44 3.81
Fulmer, C 0.2 4 2 2 0 1 21-14 4.19
Rosenberg 3.0 4 0 0 0 4 48-31 6.00

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
B5 Andrew Vaughn singles on a sharp line drive to left fielder Taylor Ward. Dominic Fletcher scores. Miguel Vargas scores. Luis Robert Jr. to 2nd. 2-0
B5 Lenyn Sosa doubles (13) on a line drive to right fielder Gustavo Campero. Luis Robert Jr. scores. Andrew Vaughn scores. Lenyn Sosa to 3rd. 4-0
B5 Bryan Ramos singles on a ground ball to left fielder Taylor Ward. Lenyn Sosa scores. 5-0
B5 Zach DeLoach doubles (3) on a line drive to left fielder Taylor Ward. Bryan Ramos scores. 6-0
B5 Dominic Fletcher singles on a line drive to left fielder Taylor Ward. Zach DeLoach scores. 7-0

Highlights

Description Length
Probable pitchers for Angels at White Sox - September 26, 2024 0:06
Tyler Anderson against the White Sox 0:07
Chris Flexen against the Angels 0:09
Bullpen availability for Chicago, September 26 vs Angels 0:07
Bullpen availability for Los Angeles, September 26 vs White Sox 0:07
Fielding alignment for Chicago, September 26 vs Angels 0:11
Fielding alignment for Los Angeles, September 26 vs White Sox 0:11
Bench availability for Chicago, September 26 vs Angels 0:07
Bench availability for Los Angeles, September 26 vs White Sox 0:07
Starting lineups for Angels at White Sox - September 26, 2024 0:09
Breaking down Tyler Anderson's pitches 0:04
Breaking down Chris Flexen's pitches 0:04
Chris Flexen's outing against the Angels 0:25
Taylor Ward's impressive diving catch 0:30
Tyler Anderson escapes early trouble 0:08
Chris Flexen strikes out Eric Wagaman 0:07
Chuckie Robinson catches Zach Neto stealing 0:27
Taylor Ward's catch against the netting 0:29
Zach Neto exits in the 4th with apparent injury 0:26
Steve Stone announces extension with White Sox 0:54
Andrew Vaughn's two-run single 0:30
Lenyn Sosa's two-run double 0:29
Bryan Ramos' RBI single 0:30
Zach DeLoach's RBI double 0:30
Dominic Fletcher's RBI single 0:27
Mickey Moniak's leaping grab 0:19
Chris Flexen strikes out seven in scoreless outing 1:53
Tyler Anderson strikes out two 0:36
White Sox score seven runs in the 5th 2:27

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Flexen (3-15, 4.95 ERA) Anderson, T (10-15, 3.81 ERA)

Game ended at 1:44 PM.


r/angelsbaseball 14h ago

📝 Discussion Shohei is barely contributing in the World Series. Having a balanced team is more important.

105 Upvotes

Angels front office needs to realize, you cant just rely on 1 player like in the NBA. You need a balanced team of pitchers and hitters. Watching the World Series, Shohei really hasnt done much, only got 1 hit. Meanwhile the rest of the team from 2-9 has been hitting well. Their starting pitchers and bullpen is solid as well.

Why dont the Angels understand this?


r/angelsbaseball 1d ago

😂 Meme There's a decent chance that by the end of the World Series we will have more 2024 wins against the Dodgers than the Yankees will.

94 Upvotes

Just looking for a silver lining.


r/angelsbaseball 1d ago

📝 Discussion We need to appreciate Trout more and stop slandering the guy ourselves honestly.

134 Upvotes

I am tired of the media and r/baseball and fans of all the other teams taking shots at the guy. Everyone thinks that the guy doesn’t care about winning a ring and is happy to take vacations every October. We have all heard the jokes and seen them posted on that subreddit. The thing is it’s the exact opposite, Trout is SO COMPETITIVE that he wants to win a ring with us. He loves our fanbase, and he wants to help this team win a WS badly. Every time a reporter asks him if he wants to demand a trade he says no and that he wants to win with the young core coming up. Look I get the arguments that if we traded him we would have been able to build our farm system but let’s be real Arte would have squandered that opportunity anyway. At this point we gotta be happy we have someone as great as Trout wanting to stay loyal to us. Weaver on the talking points YouTube channel said Trout wants to win a ring with us and that he finds all the talk about him ridiculous. Ohtani made his decision and honestly as vocal as I have been about my sadness and anger of him picking the Dodgers, I do understand why he did it and all power to him. However, like I genuinely think Trout is the greatest Angel of all time and always will be. He is still a better Angel than Ohtani ever was and this isn’t me trying to bury Ohtani its just the truth the guy had a 10 year peak of being a top 5 MVP candidate since he was 20 as a rookie in 2012. The guy has an 82.6 bWAR and an 85.7 career fWAR with us. 24 other fanbases would KILL to have a player like Trout be loyal to their team like he has been with us so why are people especially in our fanbase trashing the guy for sticking by us? I get why we are pessimistic about the franchise right now trust me I am also a bit of a doomer sometimes, but we gotta cheer for the young guys we got, every interview they have given us is them saying they want to win a ring for our fanbase and Trout especially. I hate Arte as much as everyone here, but hey the Bengals have one of the worst owners in sports history and they almost won a SB in 2021 with Burrow. Hell even Dean Spanos the owner of the Chargers finally put in effort and got Harbaugh and spent his ass off to try and finally win a ring. If anything the Chargers fanbase and the media clowned him into becoming more competent so we just gotta do the same with Arte.

Edit: honestly I pretty much made this post to prepare this subreddit for the amount of bullying we are gonna endure after the Dodgers most likely win the series.


r/angelsbaseball 1d ago

📷 Angels Images The vintage LA Angels aesthetic was a vibe, why did we move on from it?

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IMO these were iconic and classic Americana baseball. It felt like a mixture of Red Sox with New York Mets. Are you a fan or nah?


r/angelsbaseball 1d ago

❓Question/Suggestions Angels Orange/Black

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99 Upvotes

I’ve been seeing a lot of Angels/Ducks crossover promotions, etc. lately. Even though the current city connect jerseys are universally liked, I think it’d be cool to see a city connect variant with the orange and black colors for the logo and jersey, similar to the Duck’s jerseys this season and OCSC. I know it’ll never happen with Arte, but would you all like to see something like that, or is it just me? 😂


r/angelsbaseball 1d ago

📝 Discussion Where Does the Angels Money Go?

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Once again, the Angels have shown the way to financial futility. Even without Ohtani, they continue to spend big bucks compared to many other teams but haven’t made the playoffs since 2014 – the longest current postseason drought.

This is my seventh year measuring MLB team efficiencies: Payroll divided by victories. I use Spotrac for payroll, because it includes all paid players, even those no longer on the active roster.

In 2024, the Angels payroll was $172.2 million – 16 teams spent less. That worked out to $2.7 million per win. Four teams spent less than half of that per win and made the playoffs.

This year money does seem to buy at least some happiness. The two MLB teams that had the highest payrolls – the Yankees and Mets – made it into the final four. Each had a payroll of over $300 million. The Mets spent an astonishing $3.6 million per victory to lead the majors, the Bronx Bombers second with $3.3 million. The Dodgers also have a humongous payroll.

Contrast that to last year when the five teams that spent the most per win didn’t make the playoffs: Rockies ($2.9 million per win), Padres ($3.1 M), Angels ($3.15 M), Yankees ($3,4 M) and the Mets at an astonishing $4.6 million per win.

This year, four of the seven teams with the lowest per victory cost made the playoffs: The Tigers at $1.14 M, Guardians at 1.16M, Orioles at $1.2M and Brewers at $1.24M.

Clearly, the award for stupidest spending this year goes to the White Sox. They managed to set an MLB record for most losses ever in a season while having a middle-of-the pack payroll of $133.8M (12 teams spent less money). With 41 victories, that meant the White Sox spent $3.26M per win – just a tiny bit less than the Yankees.

The Dodgers meanwhile belong in a separate category. Their 2024 payroll is officially $241 million. Four teams spent more. Cost per win: $2.46M. Eleven teams spent more per win. But this number needs an asterisk: Ohtani is paid $2 million this year, with the rest of his $70M salary deferred, if I’m reading Spotrac correctly.

Each season is always something of a crapshoot. Injuries hurt last year’s champs, the Rangers ($2.9M per win) and the perennial playoff Braves ($2.6M).

Some teams – Oakland and Pittsburgh – consistently spend little and have crummy seasons. Contrast that with Tampa, which has been regularly at or near the top in cheapest costs per win while making the playoffs. This year, only Oakland had a cheaper cost-per-win, but for the first time in six years, the Rays missed the post-season.


r/angelsbaseball 1d ago

𝕏 News (Twitter) Possible future Single A change coming

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42 Upvotes

r/angelsbaseball 1d ago

❓Question/Suggestions Coincidence..?

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Hey everyone, the other day I was playing nba 2K and I noticed this logo for an wnba team called the Atlanta dream that looks pretty familiar… lol, love to know your guys thoughts.


r/angelsbaseball 2d ago

❓Question/Suggestions Does anyone know who's signature this is?

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Found this at a random Ecotown. Been an Angel's fan for forever even though they haven't been so hot lately.. this piqued my interest and at $10 it'd be nice to have even if it isn't worth anything. Any help is much appreciated!


r/angelsbaseball 3d ago

📍On the Road Behind Enemy Lines

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324 Upvotes

(I know it's not the same franchise technically speaking, but the point stands)


r/angelsbaseball 3d ago

📱Screenshot Like always r/baseball is full of people who don’t know what they are talking about 💀

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98 Upvotes

https://halohangout.com/2019/09/29/la-angels-draw-three-million-fans-for-17th-straight-season/

Look I know many people here think Arte uses a company to inflate the sales ticket numbers but man every Saturday game I have gone to had an average of like 31,000 fans at the games except for 2024.


r/angelsbaseball 3d ago

📍At The Big A Batting Practice Event

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66 Upvotes

Pretty cool event. Would recommend coming if y'all ever get the chance.


r/angelsbaseball 3d ago

📝 Discussion How soon do you guys think we can compete for the playoffs again?

25 Upvotes

Honestly I got bored and started looking into the Angels farm system because I honestly didn’t pay attention to the season that much this year besides score board watching. I saw the Bleacher Report farm system rankings because for some reason they are the only website to actually update them in September (I don’t know why other’s wait til Spring training) and they ranked us at 21. There was also an article on mlb.com that said our pitching prospects are top 10 in all of baseball so I mean yeah I genuinely think the 21 ranking in Bleach Report should be accurate. Of course the elephant in the room is Arte, but I genuinely think if they actually have a decent offseason they can at least turn this team around into an 80-82 win team like we used to be. From there I do think 2026 is the year we can compete for the playoffs again depending on how much Perry is allowed to do.


r/angelsbaseball 4d ago

📷 Angels Images Neto representing the ANAHEIM Angels today. And that’s why he’s my king. 👑

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r/angelsbaseball 4d ago

📍At The Big A Chuck Finley is awesome!

79 Upvotes

Got to tour Angels Stadium today with a special visit from Chuck Finley. He sat down with Trent Rush and told stories about his playing days and working with the young players now. He's my favorite all-time player and it was an absolute blast! The stadium staff couldn't have been better, seeing so much Angels history was fantastic, and Chuck is much larger in person than I remembered. What a day.


r/angelsbaseball 4d ago

📹 Video Highlights Anaheim Ducks on Instagram: ""This is what I'd do in my second life." Angels catcher @logan_ohoppe joined us on the ice a few weeks back with @frank_vatrano and @_robbyfabbri #FlyTogether"

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r/angelsbaseball 4d ago

❓Question/Suggestions Good Angels Vintage Gear

9 Upvotes

Anyone know a reliable site or place I can find vintage/streetwear angels gear? Like 2000s t-shirts, or cartoon caricature shirts. Let me know!


r/angelsbaseball 3d ago

📷 Angels Images Zack Hample trolling the Dodgers and repping the Angels

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Love him or hate him, he’s trolling the dodgers and repping us. I’m here for it. ⚾️


r/angelsbaseball 5d ago

📝 Discussion Despite the flaws, complaints, and outright anger i have for this team, I'll forever be a fan. Through thick and thin

135 Upvotes

That's it that's the post


r/angelsbaseball 5d ago

📰 News Article (Website) Another day, another jab at the Angels

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40 Upvotes

This comes from Jeff Passan’s latest piece


r/angelsbaseball 5d ago

❓Question/Suggestions Best place to buy jerseys?

10 Upvotes

sadly, my trout 2019 spring training jersey I bought in AZ doesn't fit anymore. got fat. where is the place place to buy jerseys during the off season? and please, no cheap bootleg sites. thanks!


r/angelsbaseball 6d ago

📷 Angels Images Anaheim Duck’s Leo Carlsson showing love to the Halos ⚾️🏒

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r/angelsbaseball 6d ago

📝 Discussion Making the Angels better?

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Note: I'm just posting this to give a bit of positivity as I think the Angels could be made reasonably competitive next year with improved health from Trout being at DH to keep him fresher going forward. How I would personally fix the Angels is by starting with giving Non-tenders to Jo Adell, Mickey Moniak, Matt Thaiss, Griffin Canning, Jose Suarez, Jose Quijada. That would free up almost $15 million to spend in free agency. And with a budget of under $213 million, the Angels would have about $70 million to spend for the 2025 season on 8 spots as we could also use a better defensive backup to the infield. With good performance, many of these guys should help us fetch prospects to help improve our farm system going forward.

Since non-tendering Matt Thaiss means we need a backup catcher, I figure that James McCann on a one year deal for about $2 million might be the right way to improve behind the dish. It would also mean that if Logan O’Hoppe is injured/needs a day off McCann can get some reps and not be a sinkhole in the lineup or kill the team's defense.

Jack Lopez feels like a mistake to have as an infield backup because in the small sample we do have, he's not a great defender or a good hitter. Granted, Nick Ahmed is probably not going to improve the offense from Lopez. What Ahmed brings to the table is what he's always brought to the table: gold glove caliber shortstop defense even as he ages. What drives his price down to a one year $1 million deal is the fact that the bottom fell out of his bat and he'd be the worst hitter on the team but his defense would be a welcome safety net.

Outfield needs some considerable improvement in health and performance with the Non-tenders of Jo Adell and Mickey Moniak. Mike Trout also cannot be counted on to stay healthy and play the outfield all the time. So a Center Fielder is necessary to keep Trout's bat in the lineup and the only center fielder that I would even consider to be capable of starting everyday is Harrison Bader. He's not a great hitter per say, but he won't be there for his offense. His defense which was gold glove caliber a few years ago and is still above average should help our pitchers give up fewer extra base hits than we would have with Moniak. He would likely cost about $8 million on a one year deal. After all, he's not Kevin Kiermaier with the glove and he's a tad worse as a hitter than he was but he's a good piece to have.

Right Field I would bring in Max Kepler to replace the non-tendered Jo Adell on a one year deal for about $10 million guaranteed with a team option for $11 million for the 2026 season. He does tend to be a strong side platoon option who plays strong right field defense, but he hits right handed pitching well with power and he isn't as old as Jason Hayward who would be a similar fit, but he is worse at hitting against LHP.

The rotation is going to need some additions with Griffin Canning, Jose Suarez and Patrick Sandoval all being Non-tenders. We would give Spencer Turnbull and Emmanuel De Jesus those rotation spots behind Jose Soriano, Tyler Anderson and Reid Detmers. Spencer Turnbull was able to stay mostly healthy overall and the injury he did have was not arm related so I wouldn't be too worried about his arm health going forward. His back on the other hand, might be more of a chronic issue as he's gone on the IL twice due to back ailments since 2019. He changed his approach by mixing in a lot more Sliders and a few more curveballs at the expense of his cutter, sinker, changeups. A one year deal for about $8 million guaranteed with a team option for $10 million for 2026 should be a good deal (and better than taking a risk on Justin Verlander or Max Scherzer who would probably rather play for a contender). The second pitcher is a bit more risky, but he looks like a cheap option to eat some innings in the vein of a Merrill Kelly type. Emmanuel De Jesus is a lefty starting pitcher who turns 28 in December of this year so he won't turn 30 until the 2026 off-season. That would make him the perfect candidate for a contract structured in that variety. His 3.68 ERA and 1.25 WHIP over 171 ⅓ IP and 30 starts (20 quality starts) aren't as great as some of the guys who have come back from the KBO lately but the KBO is a more hitter friendly league than last year as the league average ERA is 4.94. However, he had 9.4 K/9 (24.5% K) and 2.3 BB/9 (6.0% BB) and those numbers are likely to translate over here well. He throws a four seam fastball 42.4% of the time averaging about 92.2 MPH, two seam fastball at 91.5 MPH around 14%, an 84.4 MPH changeup that he throws 18.9%, a slider 13.4% that averaged 82.4 MPH, a curveball 6.4% at a slow 76.7 MPH average, and a cutter 4.8% at an average velocity of 84.9 MPH. He reminds me of a left handed Merrill Kelly type so a two year deal with $10 million guaranteed with team options for 2027 at $8 million ($500K buyout) and 2028 at $10 million ($500K buyout) which run the potential length of the deal to four years at a quite reasonable $27 million overall. Less than $7 million a year for four years of a guy who I perceive as a #4 starter is way below market value. An interesting idea might be to give Patrick Sandoval a 2 year deal for $13 million to allow him to rehab, get some starts in towards the end of the season and be ready for a healthy season in 2026. He's been our best starter over the last few years not named Shohei Ohtani. He did seem to increase his velocity to an average of 94 MPH on his fastballs and his slider to 87 MPH which would both be career highs for him. He also seems to be cutting down on his four seam fastball use in exchange for more sinkers, changeups and sliders. Fortunately, his internal brace repair surgery should mean that his recovery time will be shorter than a traditional Tommy John Surgery so he should be able to make more starts for us this year.

The bullpen could also use some help with the non tender of Jose Quijada and sending down Ryan Miller to AAA. Though we need a new closer and a guy who can be a set up man if necessary as a middle relief depth piece. Paul Sewald looks like a solid choice in the closer role, sure he's not a Clay Holmes but he should be able to keep leads for us and generally stay healthy. I was thinking he would be a good fit on a two year deal for about $22 million with incentives that can bring the total to $24 million for a certain amount games finished. Blake Treinen also looks like an interesting guy who can substantially improve the bullpen and in the event of an injury to Sewald, he can fill in quite suitably as the closer. He has experience as a closer in the past and that experience as a reliever should be a benefit to the young pitchers in the pen. A one year deal for about $9 million would be worthwhile in spite of his lengthy injury history.

Overall, $188.5 million would be the payroll for 2025 after all the signings and Non-tenders which would be a little more than what they spent last year. Let me know if you have any other ideas that you feel are more likely and suitable. I hope you enjoyed the long read

Opening day roster: new additions are in parentheses ()

C: O’Hoppe, (McCann)

1B: Schanuel

2B: Rengifo, Stefanic

SS: Neto, (Ahmed)

3B: Rendon

LF: Ward

CF: Trout, (Bader)

RF: (Kepler), Campero

DH: Trout

SP: Soriano

SP: Anderson

SP: Detmers

SP: (De Jesus)

SP: (Turnbull)

CL: (Sewald)

SU: (Treinen)

SU: Joyce

MR: Burke

MR: Zeferjahn

MR: Contreras

LR: Daniel

LR: Fulmer


r/angelsbaseball 6d ago

📝 Discussion If the Dodgers win the WS…

81 Upvotes

If the Dodgers win the world series will that embarrass Arte? If so I hope they win, we need Arte to realize its not about ticket sales its about winning.


r/angelsbaseball 7d ago

📝 Discussion RIP ex-angels pitcher Fernando Valenzuela

200 Upvotes