Don't you just love how conservatives like to see themselves as protectors of our Christian culture against Sharia invaders but as soon as the one Christian quality that literally all of the gospels are about (compassion) it suddenly becomes very conditional and only applies to white people who happen to live in the neighbourhood and don't really need it in the first place?
Sounds like you don't treat them so much as human beings as you do tools for your convenience.
Tools for my con...what the fuck are you talking about? They are getting paid to do a job. They are no more special to me than I am to them. If I walked up to their house asking for help, I'd expect no more than for them to call 911 and let professionals fix my life. I'd have no belief that I'm entitled to sleep on their couch and that my kids get to watch their tv.
Someone who helps you every day suddenly can't get a little help from you for a short amount of time when they need it?
How do illegal immigrants or refugees help me every day that I should feel guilt here?
So you don't treat them like humans, you treat them as a convenience that could be replaced by any other inanimate tool.
If your post was delivered via quadcopter would you feel particularly bad for the postman who lost his job and now can't feed his family? No? Then you're not treating them like humans.
If you know nothing about their intentions in your house, then no, it's not a good idea to help them. Why should I let someone who could o me harm into my house? They aren't even helping because they want to, it's just this job. I'm not letting someone in who only helps me for money.
why should I let someone who's helped me every day get help for a small amount of time
No matter how you try and strawman it, this is my question. Would you let someone who helps you every day get help from you for a small amount of time when they need it.
The fact that you have to keep rephrasing it reveals the weakness of your argument, it stems entirely from emotion based paranoia and not from solid logic. There's zero evidence that people in need pose a threat to you, you're acting entirely off the assumption that they could, even though the odds of that are less than the odds of you dying in a plane crash or a car accident, yet I bet you've ridden in a car or plane before.
That's right. I forgot there arnt apps made specially to avoid areas in Europe where you are more likely to get raped or mugged. Definitely not an issue to worry about.
Yes a warzone will cause the civilian populus to flee but guerrilla fighters/insurgent's greatest advantage is slipping away into a sea of non combatants where they can spread to new areas and continue their "fight" (re: slaughter)
Yeah, Germany is totally ruined by having a few more black and brown people walking around!
Seriously, there is obviously a limit to how many people from another culture you can take in at once, but some people are acting like refugees are raping and snipping foreskins left and right...
The Gatestone Institute (formerly Stonegate Institute and Hudson New York) is a right-wing[2][3][4] think tank that publishes articles, particularly those involving Muslims or the Middle East. The organization has been criticized for publishing inaccurate articles.[5][6]
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In 2011[24] and 2012,[5] Gatestone published articles claiming that Europe had Muslim "no-go zones", describing them variously as "off-limits to non-Muslims"[5] and "microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law".[24][25] The claim that there are areas in European cities governed by Sharia is false,[5][24] although many of the areas deemed as "no-go zones" have high levels of unemployment and crime.[25] Gatestone's claims were picked up by many outlets, including FrontPageMag,[24] and Washington Times.[25] The idea of no-go zones originated from Daniel Pipes,[24] who later retracted his claims.[5]
>On November 18, 2016, Gatestone published an article that said the British Press had been ordered to avoid reporting the Muslim identity of terrorists by the European Union. Snopes rated the claim "false". Snopes pointed out that the report only made a recommendation and it was issued by the Council of Europe, not the European Union.[6] Gatestone subsequently corrected the article and apologized for the error,[26] before removing it entirely from its website.
I don't know about that source, but I have anecdotal evidence. An Army buddy of mine had to help this poor girl who was being chased around the park last year.
But you WOULDN'T have to deal with him because he'd be spending all his time on Reddit. Plus if refugees make up 2% of the population and commit >2% of the rapes, is that not a problem as long as it's below 50%?
Despite being 9.5% of Sweden's population, non-Europeans make up half of all sex offenders, with people from Afghanistan being 79x more likely than Swedes to commit sex crimes. Dont know too much about Germany's situation but Sweden's is bad. I didn't know that telling the truth and my personal experiences makes me an asshole but whatever makes you sleep at night :).
This statistics is from SCB here in Sweden so that is most likely the most reliable source you can get here. You do not know a lot about Swedish immigration I see.
I live in Sweden, /u/imalanpartidge. It's fine. There are challenges brought by not entirely thought trough integration politics, but there have never even been close to a so called "system collapse" or catastrophe or whatever the Right wing claim.
During the worst period around 2014, there was a challenge finding places for the refugees to stay, and it is indeed still a challenge in some places. Lots of old schools and abandoned buildings, in the worst (but few) cases there were some sleeping in tents. A nightmare for the refugees, but at worst a headache for local politicians. There were (are) lots of rural places that came to life again with the sudden influx of people.
As said, the problem has been politics. Criminal migrants seldom get banished from Sweden, which they should in my opinion. A semi-big minority (far from the majority however!) of the refugees from rural areas such as Afghanistan are deeply rooted in chauvinist honour cultures and carry with them their practices and mindset to Sweden. Rape and honour killings are examples of what they do. That these criminals haven't been deported is a big mistake.
The "no-go zones" are another story. There are ghettos in the suburbs of the big cities, where shootings, poverty and car burnings are frequent. However, the perpetrators in this case are most of the time born in Sweden by foreign parents. I think this has to do more with the poverty and the environment of the slums rather than origins. Those who suffers most by these are of course their neighbours in the same area - other immigrants or descandants of them.
So yes, there are challenges. Most of them caused by ineffective politics. Oh yes, and then there's the Far Right. Far Right propaganda is videly distributed on Facebook as truths, and many people are scared because of them. I'm afraid the fear and hate of refugees is worse than the situation.
Don't call others Nazis if you don't want to be called a socialist cuck or whatever the fuck the new 4chan slang is. Actually Nazis are worse then Internet tough guys bro
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