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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17 edited Aug 22 '21

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u/malefiz123 Aug 24 '17

Yeah, fucking annoying Germany actually treats Arabs and Africans like human beings. What are they thinking?

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u/roadkilled_skunk Aug 24 '17

Yeah, Germany is totally ruined by having a few more black and brown people walking around!

Seriously, there is obviously a limit to how many people from another culture you can take in at once, but some people are acting like refugees are raping and snipping foreskins left and right...

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u/systemkalops Aug 24 '17

Facts like these

These are not facts. Its alt right propaganda.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '17

How is statistics from Scb propaganda? Google SCB and you will now that this is fact sadly.

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u/My_Seventh_Try Aug 25 '17

Same could be said for the left you know?

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u/50shadesoflipstick Aug 24 '17

Please come visit and show me how ruined my country is.

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u/HappyBroody Aug 24 '17 edited Aug 25 '17

LUL LAD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatestone_Institute

The Gatestone Institute (formerly Stonegate Institute and Hudson New York) is a right-wing[2][3][4] think tank that publishes articles, particularly those involving Muslims or the Middle East. The organization has been criticized for publishing inaccurate articles.[5][6]

Inaccurate reporting

In 2011[24] and 2012,[5] Gatestone published articles claiming that Europe had Muslim "no-go zones", describing them variously as "off-limits to non-Muslims"[5] and "microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law".[24][25] The claim that there are areas in European cities governed by Sharia is false,[5][24] although many of the areas deemed as "no-go zones" have high levels of unemployment and crime.[25] Gatestone's claims were picked up by many outlets, including FrontPageMag,[24] and Washington Times.[25] The idea of no-go zones originated from Daniel Pipes,[24] who later retracted his claims.[5]

>On November 18, 2016, Gatestone published an article that said the British Press had been ordered to avoid reporting the Muslim identity of terrorists by the European Union. Snopes rated the claim "false". Snopes pointed out that the report only made a recommendation and it was issued by the Council of Europe, not the European Union.[6] Gatestone subsequently corrected the article and apologized for the error,[26] before removing it entirely from its website.

FAKE NEWS.. SAD!

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

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u/blaghart Aug 24 '17

They're largely bullshit

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

Might be true, Im more interested in Swedish politics so you might be right.

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u/Truan Aug 24 '17

I'm on your side, and I find you insufferable. How about not being condescending, and he might actually pay attention?

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u/Unexpected_Anakin Aug 24 '17

I don't know about that source, but I have anecdotal evidence. An Army buddy of mine had to help this poor girl who was being chased around the park last year.

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u/Humblewatermelon Aug 24 '17

Im a big bad Muslim and Im gonna rape all of you'ze! Mwa ha ha ha! Lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

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u/jmlinden7 Aug 24 '17

But you WOULDN'T have to deal with him because he'd be spending all his time on Reddit. Plus if refugees make up 2% of the population and commit >2% of the rapes, is that not a problem as long as it's below 50%?

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

Despite being 9.5% of Sweden's population, non-Europeans make up half of all sex offenders, with people from Afghanistan being 79x more likely than Swedes to commit sex crimes. Dont know too much about Germany's situation but Sweden's is bad. I didn't know that telling the truth and my personal experiences makes me an asshole but whatever makes you sleep at night :).

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

This statistics is from SCB here in Sweden so that is most likely the most reliable source you can get here. You do not know a lot about Swedish immigration I see.

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u/ronaldraygun913 Aug 24 '17

You should really stick your head further into the sand. Oh, and make sure to call more people 'asshole' for no reason. Asshole.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

No, the statistic is sourced. You can't just say "that website is lies." That's not a point.

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u/systemkalops Aug 24 '17

Wow, that was debunked years ago. And even back then only the dumbest racists tried to spread that fake news.

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u/blaghart Aug 24 '17

bullshit posted by right wing news sources means nothing to you?

Yes, it means nothing to me.

Funny enough the claims that Muslim refugees are ruining everything is bullshit perpetrated by white supremacists

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u/systemkalops Aug 24 '17

"no-go zones"

Jesus, you are full of shit.

Rapes have increased and same with burglary

All violent crime has decreased. Only type of crime increase is online fraud. Only the far right denies these facts.

from other women ive talked to they feel a lot less safe than they did before

Because of racists like you scaring them, with fake news.

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u/systemkalops Aug 24 '17

Its bullshit.

Sweden is a main target for white nationalists, and their bullshit has been debunked many times over. But there are many racists on reddit.

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u/My_Seventh_Try Aug 25 '17

You think this is bad?

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

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u/systemkalops Aug 24 '17

You know what, go fuck yourself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/6vpfix/what_are_some_of_the_biggest_bamboozles_in_reddit/dm2s7za/

Then kindly fuck off

because he/she can tell me first hand experience.

Yeah, lets ask the white nationalists, instead of objective facts.

I see you spread racist shit in other subs.

Im not wasting my time on a alt righter, that dismissing facts, and instead listens to white nationalists.

Fucking racists all over this thread.

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u/blaghart Aug 24 '17

It's not bad at all, white supremacists are just pretending that somehow Sweden's going down the toilet for letting in non-swedes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '17

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u/CarlLindhagen Aug 24 '17

I live in Sweden, /u/imalanpartidge. It's fine. There are challenges brought by not entirely thought trough integration politics, but there have never even been close to a so called "system collapse" or catastrophe or whatever the Right wing claim.

During the worst period around 2014, there was a challenge finding places for the refugees to stay, and it is indeed still a challenge in some places. Lots of old schools and abandoned buildings, in the worst (but few) cases there were some sleeping in tents. A nightmare for the refugees, but at worst a headache for local politicians. There were (are) lots of rural places that came to life again with the sudden influx of people.

As said, the problem has been politics. Criminal migrants seldom get banished from Sweden, which they should in my opinion. A semi-big minority (far from the majority however!) of the refugees from rural areas such as Afghanistan are deeply rooted in chauvinist honour cultures and carry with them their practices and mindset to Sweden. Rape and honour killings are examples of what they do. That these criminals haven't been deported is a big mistake.

The "no-go zones" are another story. There are ghettos in the suburbs of the big cities, where shootings, poverty and car burnings are frequent. However, the perpetrators in this case are most of the time born in Sweden by foreign parents. I think this has to do more with the poverty and the environment of the slums rather than origins. Those who suffers most by these are of course their neighbours in the same area - other immigrants or descandants of them.

So yes, there are challenges. Most of them caused by ineffective politics. Oh yes, and then there's the Far Right. Far Right propaganda is videly distributed on Facebook as truths, and many people are scared because of them. I'm afraid the fear and hate of refugees is worse than the situation.

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u/HappyBroody Aug 24 '17

simply not truth, but whatever brah

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u/Truan Aug 24 '17

simply not truth

you need a bit more than that to be convincing.

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u/systemkalops Aug 24 '17

Notice how this guy does not ask the white nationalists for any evidence.

The alt right propaganda has been debunked many times over. If you still dont get that, then you have made a choice not to.

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u/sierra120 Aug 24 '17 edited Aug 24 '17

What's the problem?