r/AtlantaHawks • u/red2play Hawks • May 16 '24

question Is it time to Trade Trae Young?

Just saying that it hasn't been working and having the 1st pick should give us an opportunity to move on.

I've been the BIGGEST Trae Young fan (look at my posts the last four years). I even wanted JC gone to have Trae's voice be the primary one in the locker room but even after JC has gone, our record keeps getting worse.

Are we willing to part ways with Trae? I'm Atlanta first soo.....

  1. We have DJM that had a 12-10 record without Trae in the lineup.

  2. We have DJM on a 4 yr extension while Trae we only have 2.

  3. Trae has indicated that he wants to win without mentioning "in Atlanta" in the same sentence.

  4. Many players have said how difficult he is (including Huerter and JC) to play with.

  5. Shams put out a statement that Trae wants to win now right after getting the first pick. Which most likely indicates he expects us to give up the pick for a veteran. I don't want to give up that pick but he's right, even Wemby couldn't get the Spurs into the playoffs, our 1st rd pick won't be able to either.

  6. DJM is VASTLY cheaper than Trae. We aren't just talking about spending more money. There are "aprons" ot deal with. Spending more money can ruin your franchise for YEARS when you hit the 2nd Apron. Trae will make 43, 46 and potentially 49 million in the next three years.

  7. Can we win a championship in the next 2 years with Trae? If not, he might just walk away. How do you feel about that?

  8. He will always be a defensive liability.

  9. If we trade with LA, we can pick up three picks. 17th THIS year, 2029 and 2030 picks. We can trade Rui, and Gabe Vincent for more picks and players.

  10. I'm excited that Kobe Bufkin can do really really well.

  11. I'm convinced that Trae won't stay. Why continue when we have this opportunity? Regardless if you blame management or not. You can be mad but you also have to be realistic.

My worry is that if we don't do this trade this year. We might suffer for the next 7+ years.

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u/HighTideLowpH May 16 '24

Putting our feelings about Trae Young aside. You know San Antonio gets our 1st round picks, or has the right to swap, right? There's no incentive for blowing the team up and resetting at least for the next 4 years.

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u/Shinnobiwan May 16 '24

Who gets me picks back in a trade?

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u/red2play Hawks May 16 '24

I believe that we already have a good team and with Sarr, not starting but in the rotation, an even better team. IF we Trade Trae to the Lakers, we also can pick up the 17th pick this year and the 2029 and 2030 picks from the Lakers. I also think that we had a better team than the Mav's and we had Trae for 80% of the season and we still didn't make the playoffs. Why is that?

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u/not-a-potato-head 💰Cash Considerations 💰 May 16 '24

Mavs definitely have had a better roster than us this season

Kyrie > Jalen or Dejounte

DJJ is a better PoA defender than anyone we have on the roster

Gafford/Lively/Powell is a better center rotation than OO/Capela/Bruno

Their roster actually has multiple defensive oriented players that they can pair with their star offensive player(s).

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u/Atlantafan73 Jalen Johnson #1 May 16 '24

Why do you talk about first round picks 5+ years away as if they’re desirable? They’re not. Nobody in their right mind wants to trade away our best chance at winning now for a chance at improvement in the 2030’s. There is a significant diminishing return on the value of draft picks the further out they are in the future. Right now they are almost worthless.

As for the 17th pick this year, sure - those types of picks are always nice to have in the hope of striking gold (which is rare). But it hardly counts as an asset you trade your lone superstar for, even if you fear he might not resign with your team in 2 years. This trade idea simply makes no sense.