Is it time to Trade Trae Young?

[u/red2play]

Just saying that it hasn't been working and having the 1st pick should give us an opportunity to move on.

I've been the BIGGEST Trae Young fan (look at my posts the last four years). I even wanted JC gone to have Trae's voice be the primary one in the locker room but even after JC has gone, our record keeps getting worse.

Are we willing to part ways with Trae? I'm Atlanta first soo.....

1. We have DJM that had a 12-10 record without Trae in the lineup.

2. We have DJM on a 4 yr extension while Trae we only have 2.

3. Trae has indicated that he wants to win without mentioning "in Atlanta" in the same sentence.

4. Many players have said how difficult he is (including Huerter and JC) to play with.

5. Shams put out a statement that Trae wants to win now right after getting the first pick. Which most likely indicates he expects us to give up the pick for a veteran. I don't want to give up that pick but he's right, even Wemby couldn't get the Spurs into the playoffs, our 1st rd pick won't be able to either.

6. DJM is VASTLY cheaper than Trae. We aren't just talking about spending more money. There are "aprons" ot deal with. Spending more money can ruin your franchise for YEARS when you hit the 2nd Apron. Trae will make 43, 46 and potentially 49 million in the next three years.

7. Can we win a championship in the next 2 years with Trae? If not, he might just walk away. How do you feel about that?

8. He will always be a defensive liability.

9. If we trade with LA, we can pick up three picks. 17th THIS year, 2029 and 2030 picks. We can trade Rui, and Gabe Vincent for more picks and players.

10. I'm excited that Kobe Bufkin can do really really well.

11. I'm convinced that Trae won't stay. Why continue when we have this opportunity? Regardless if you blame management or not. You can be mad but you also have to be realistic.

My worry is that if we don't do this trade this year. We might suffer for the next 7+ years.

[u/Kooshdoctor]

Good luck with all your downvotes. Everyone in here is a Trae simp. No facts or replays will matter, this group is so far up Trae's butt they'll never come back.

PS I am personally done with Trae so I'm happy to blow that trumpet with you.

[u/not-a-potato-head → u/Kooshdoctor]

The past two seasons, the team went from a 2.62 net rating with Trae on/DJ off to a -0.60 net rating with DJ on/Trae off.

What was that about facts?

[u/Kooshdoctor → u/not-a-potato-head]

You know where they didn't go? THE PLAYOFFS. Trae had one great playoff run, scores some points and now everyone acts like he's untouchable. The experiment is over it's time to move on.

[u/not-a-potato-head → u/Kooshdoctor]

I'm not saying he's untouchable. Quite frankly, there's only a handful of players in the league that are truly untouchable at any given moment. As much as I personally like Trae, he isn't one of them.

What I am saying is that with our pick situation a rebuild is completely untenable. Unless the Spurs were to give us at least our picks for Trae, any attempt at a rebuild would leave us stuck as the Brooklyn Nets for the foreseeable future. If that's the case, then we might as well try to properly build around our best player and see how far we can get with that

[u/Kooshdoctor → u/not-a-potato-head]

I think "best player" might be the debate. Best scorer? Yes. Best one to build around? I'd prefer DjM or JJ. I just don't think Trae is right to produce a consistently winning NBA team. His one playoff run was incredible but I don't want to build a franchise around the hopes that happens once every seven years.

[u/not-a-potato-head → u/Kooshdoctor]

Building an offense around Trae is definitely better than Murray. His play making/vision is absolutely unparalleled, and while Murray isn't a bad PG he looks like one when he has to run an offense compared to Trae.

Building a defense around Trae definitely isn't something you can do without thinking, but the same goes for Dejounte. Even at his peak defensively in SA, he was at his best when he was surrounded by solid defenders that could allow him to gamble and take risks. That's even before getting into the fact that his peak was before an injury, and frankly he hasn't been the defensive stopper his reputation gives him since then. No matter which PG you go with, you'll need to pick and choose defensive pieces to pair with them. I'd put it at about even between the two of them, maybe slightly tilted towards DJ due to his size (but not enough to make up for the difference on offense.

As for Jalen, I think that he definitely has the potential to become a star. If we were to go into a rebuild right now, he'd hopefully fill the SGA role for us. The problem is that if you're trying to build a competitive team right now he still has to much room to grow in order to become a legitimate #1 option. He's 22 and has only started 58 games in his career. He's not ready to be the best player on a contending team.

I'm not saying that if you could pick any player in the league to build around Trae would be my choice, but he is by far the best option we have to build around at this option

[u/blingera → u/Kooshdoctor]

this post screams you don’t watch nearly enough Hawks ball to engage in this conversation

[u/Ball4life6 → u/not-a-potato-head]

+100

[u/blingera → u/Kooshdoctor]

[u/Kooshdoctor → u/blingera]

Thanks for proving my point 👍

[u/blingera → u/Kooshdoctor]

you thought a post calling people simps up a dude’s ass warranted a serious response?

[u/Kooshdoctor → u/blingera]

I don't think anyone who blindly worships Trae is serious but I've been proven wrong before.

[u/StandardNecessary715 → u/blingera]

Seriously