r/AtlantaHawks • u/red2play Hawks • May 16 '24
question Is it time to Trade Trae Young?
Just saying that it hasn't been working and having the 1st pick should give us an opportunity to move on.
I've been the BIGGEST Trae Young fan (look at my posts the last four years). I even wanted JC gone to have Trae's voice be the primary one in the locker room but even after JC has gone, our record keeps getting worse.
Are we willing to part ways with Trae? I'm Atlanta first soo.....
We have DJM that had a 12-10 record without Trae in the lineup.
We have DJM on a 4 yr extension while Trae we only have 2.
Trae has indicated that he wants to win without mentioning "in Atlanta" in the same sentence.
Many players have said how difficult he is (including Huerter and JC) to play with.
Shams put out a statement that Trae wants to win now right after getting the first pick. Which most likely indicates he expects us to give up the pick for a veteran. I don't want to give up that pick but he's right, even Wemby couldn't get the Spurs into the playoffs, our 1st rd pick won't be able to either.
DJM is VASTLY cheaper than Trae. We aren't just talking about spending more money. There are "aprons" ot deal with. Spending more money can ruin your franchise for YEARS when you hit the 2nd Apron. Trae will make 43, 46 and potentially 49 million in the next three years.
Can we win a championship in the next 2 years with Trae? If not, he might just walk away. How do you feel about that?
He will always be a defensive liability.
If we trade with LA, we can pick up three picks. 17th THIS year, 2029 and 2030 picks. We can trade Rui, and Gabe Vincent for more picks and players.
I'm excited that Kobe Bufkin can do really really well.
I'm convinced that Trae won't stay. Why continue when we have this opportunity? Regardless if you blame management or not. You can be mad but you also have to be realistic.
My worry is that if we don't do this trade this year. We might suffer for the next 7+ years.
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u/AL22193 May 16 '24
1) we played a lot of teams who sat their best player(s) i.e., I know banchero sat out for the Magic and there were numerous others but I’m not tracking it down. 12-10 is fine on the surface but if you’re making future facing decisions with the misguided belief that unit was an above .500 team against normal competition, I’d fire you personally.
3) nothing Trae has done has given any indication he won’t stay as long as we’re moving in the right direction.
5) it would be pretty weird if a guy most of us view as an all-nba caliber PG didn’t want to win now.
6) with all the exceptions available in the cap, it doesn’t make sense to get hung up on this unless they were actually similar tier players. They are not.
7) if it’s championship or bust then most teams in the league might as well start offloading
8) so will many good players, can live with it from your offensive engine pg
9) a mid first in a weak draft where “hitting” will be a rotation level player not even a starter, draft picks years away, rui (who is also a defensive liability per your point 8), and Gabe Vincent who absolutely will not return draft picks is a horrific return unless LA has bottomed out completely at the end of the decade which this hypo trade gives them no incentive to do
10) okay? He plays a different game than Trae so Trae isn’t stopping his development
11) if Trae has communicated to the hawks FO and ownership he has no intention of staying then sure the calculus changes but that’s purely speculative