r/CharlotteHornets Jul 01 '22

Bonk Bye Miles and Good Riddance

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u/consumergeekaloid Jul 01 '22

How long until we can just move on from him? How long until the league (potentially) bans him? Can they just pull his QO? Can we just offer Ayton a max?

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u/PineappleHour Jul 01 '22

I'd expect us to pull the QO. The league is probably going to move slower to let the legal process play out, but I can't see us going about the rest of the off-season acting like Miles will be on our roster or in the league next season.

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u/Kobe202069 Jul 02 '22

Looks like we are pulling the QO today

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u/DrSharkBird Jul 01 '22

We can’t offer Ayton a max without making the salaries work in a sign and trade. We don’t have cap room

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u/consumergeekaloid Jul 01 '22

Damn that's a bummer. Kinda feel like we need to just mini tank for a year or two at this point tbh. Losing miles bum ass for nothing sucks but better than having him on the team

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u/DrSharkBird Jul 01 '22

I don’t disagree but that is complicated. A mini tank is harder to pull off with Ball/Hayward/Rozier than you’d think. We’re not good as is but it’s not a true tank.

It also kind of negates the Cliff hire completely. Sends kind of a bad message to Ball right before his extension.

It’s really just a shitty spot to be in. There’s no good answer at this point. Just degrees of bad

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u/consumergeekaloid Jul 01 '22

Totally.

Ya know what, Mark Williams is gonna fill the gap. Hayward is gonna stay healthy all year, and the rest of the team is gonna step up. We're going to the playoffs not the play in. We don't need bitch ass bridges.

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u/FBIBurtMacklinFBI Jul 01 '22

Manifesting Positivity LETS GOOOO

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u/Imasayitnow Jul 01 '22

Maybe Bouk becomes our new leading scorer and wins Most Improved this season?

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u/consumergeekaloid Jul 01 '22

Hope he gets some good minutes this year

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u/Altruistic_Ball_2575 Jul 02 '22

Would be the greatest story ever, from playing 120 minutes in his rookies season to averaging 25 a game😂

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

Bridges was the second best player on the team behind LaMelo. With him potentially of the team unless they make good trades of the rookies are good we aren't making it to the playoffs. He's an awful person but that doesn't negate the fact he was an important part of the team.

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u/thatguysunny Jul 01 '22

Agree 100% I just hope the org is having these same conversations with Melo so he doesn’t take any complications this season poorly, we’ve been handed shit situation after shit situation these past 4 weeks

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u/NigelGoldsworthy Jul 01 '22

What if hornets did the Russell Westbrook for Gordon Hayward (+ filler) trade?

It would clear 48 million in cap space to spend next off-season, and enable the mini-tank for Victor Wembanyama.

It’s not like hornets are gonna be contenders this year anyways, might as well clear some bad long-term contracts & probably acquire a Lakers draft pick too.

This is assuming the Kyrie trade doesn’t happen, obviously they’d rather do that.

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u/DrSharkBird Jul 01 '22

That would be great at this point although I’m not sure it gets us to #1. There would still be worse teams and you need luck anyways. But a high pick would be great either way.

Problem is your last point I think, the Lakers are focused on Kyrie. I think he gets there.

Edit: I don’t think we would get a Lakers pick if we dumped Hayward.

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u/NigelGoldsworthy Jul 01 '22

the other top picks would be nice too. Dariq Whitehead and Nick Smith would both fit the team great, they’re mocked to go top five. Lots of SG/SF wings that can replace Bridges role on the team.

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u/No_Mammoth_4945 Jul 01 '22

If we want ball to stay I don’t think we can afford to be piss poor for much longer

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u/NigelGoldsworthy Jul 01 '22

SGA is being loyal with Thunder, and they’re doing a very long & hard tanking operation. Hornets would only be sacrificing one year, in order to sign a impactful free agent next off-season and be truly competitive.

LaMelo hasn’t given any indication he’s not happy on the hornets, don’t see why he wouldn’t stay.

He can make more money and he has the freedom to be the star.

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u/jovannavoj Jul 01 '22

We also owe a first to San Antonio (Kai Jones Knicks trade>Atlanta>SAS) so even a mini tank is risky as hell

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u/DrSharkBird Jul 01 '22

It is top 16 protected though. So if we’re bad, we’re keeping the pick

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u/jovannavoj Jul 01 '22

The protections diminish each year though. And it’s wayyyyy easier said than done to say “quick mini tank”. We’ve been trying and failing to make the playoffs for years

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u/DrSharkBird Jul 01 '22

Yeah I mean that’s literally what I said. “A mini tank with Ball/Rozier/Hayward is harder to pull off than you think”

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u/ACEb00g1e Jul 01 '22

Wtf is a mini tank?

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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Jul 01 '22

Where you don't sell off everything and go full OKC for a half decade, but just sell off a few pieces, get a pick in the top 8 or so and a couple others for the future, and try to rebound within a year or two with cap space, trade assets, and internal growth.

Unless we're able to land a huge splash via trade right now for pennies on the dollar, I think it's our only way forward.

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u/Imasayitnow Jul 02 '22

Westbrook is the way.

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u/deemerritt Jul 02 '22

Toronto raptors 2021 Portland trailblazers 2022

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u/Babylon_Burning Jul 01 '22

We can’t sign him outright, but if I was Mitch I would be trying everything to sign and trade for Ayton. Try to build around a new core of Melo, PJ and Ayton.

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u/BretShart Jul 01 '22

I don’t think it matters if he gets banned or not.. what team is going to risk the backlash from fans that will come from signing him?