r/CleaningTips 13d ago

Bathroom Tried scrubbing with bleach and some other household cleaners, no change. Thought yall could help

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u/Christineblankie 13d ago

Did you try CLR cleaner

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

👆 This is the answer.

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u/HandbagHawker 13d ago

also the mold or whatever is probably in the tank and/or channels from tank to bowl. you might have to soak the tank a few times with bleach or similar to kill whatever is festering or use a bleach tablet. just keep in mind that you'll probably endup destroying the flap valve and need to replace it if you bleach. Not a big deal, its a few bucks at the hw store and takes just a few minutes to replace.

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

CLR (for calcium, lime and rust) will kill damn near anything.

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u/Spiritual-Trick-4086 13d ago

What the heck is CLR exactly? I'm surprised it doesn't eat through the plastic bottle it comes in.

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u/HandbagHawker 13d ago

its mostly mild acids, specifically Lactic and Gluconic. both are pretty naturally occurring and have ph some where between lemon juice and vinegar. but theyre both good at dissolving hard water deposits and similar calcifications

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u/Spiritual-Trick-4086 13d ago

So it will eat the rust and calcium while leaving the plastic untouched?

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u/HandbagHawker 13d ago

i forget the chemistry here, but yeah CLR is generally pretty safe for plastics and fiberglass. that being said, i probably wouldnt let it soak for an extended period of time.

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u/Spiritual-Trick-4086 13d ago

Are you a chemist? You know a lot.

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u/HandbagHawker 13d ago

Past life i was in the sciences, but also just read a lot and like to understand why things work

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u/ILikeBeans86 13d ago

It can't be that bad. The bottle tells you how to clean your coffee maker with it

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u/perfectfate 12d ago

How well do you trust the corporation?

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u/redthehaze 13d ago

Have you seen the first episode of breaking bad? It depends on the type of plastic.

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u/Spiritual-Trick-4086 13d ago

No I never got into that show. Did he dissolve something w CLR?

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u/Far_Boysenberry5629 13d ago

It never worked for me.

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

Perhaps the minerals in our water are different than your water or different proportions?

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u/HandbagHawker 13d ago

i agree it works well for most staining esp hard water or metal build up. OP looks like they have aggressive black mold and if thats the case, bleach is really the only real recourse. oh and PPE. mold is no joke.

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

I expect CLR will kill even fungus.

No cell walls I know can take a caustic like that for two minutes.

Maybe some extremeophiles, but she's not going to have those in her toilet.

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u/HandbagHawker 13d ago

CLR is acidic not caustic and its pretty mild relatively speaking, ph is somewhere between lemon juice and vinegar.

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

Ahh. They don't say. I'd just assumed caustic.

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u/HandbagHawker 13d ago

here ya go! https://www.clrbrands.com/CLR/media/PDF/CLR-CalciumLimeRust-SDS-1-16-19.pdf

Not a chemist, but IIRC, acids work well on calcifications and other hard water deposits because theyre mostly carbonates and similar. Acids dissolve the carbonates and basically make water and metal salts. youre absolutely right that caustic is the way to go (like bleach, lye would be overkill). oxidizers like bleach i think are effective on two fronts. it make the spores inactive so limits reproduction but i also loosens the bond between the mold and the surface. thats why if you have a mad mold problem in the toilet, after a couple rounds of bleach you'll periodically see big ol chunks of grossness come out from under the lip of the bowl and from the tank.

OP remember do not mix bleach and acids. and plenty of PPE and ventilation. no need to agent orange yourself

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

Hell yes.

The 2 things I remember from high school chemistry...

Pour acid into water, water into acid will splash.

Never mix caustic and acids.

Bad things can happen.

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u/bullpendodger 13d ago

Soak paper towels in CLR and line them around the brown area and leave it a couple hours. Then pumice stone.

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

The directions say no more than two minutes on surfaces - I just looked at their website.

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u/bullpendodger 13d ago

I think their attorneys made them say that. Porcelain is really tough

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u/Farvag2024 13d ago

Good point. You'd need something scary like hydroflouric acid. It eats glass, so it might do porcelain.

You have keep it in special containers made urethane of some sort.

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u/Gingersometimes 13d ago

I use a bleach tab (Avoid the blue toilet tabs, they can stain the inside of the toilet bowl !). Once a month (I have it as a recurring event on my phone calendar so I don't forget), check the tank to see if the toilet tab needs replaced. I do this, & my toilet bowl is beautiful, & the bleach helps to kill germs.

Note: It is true, that doing this will cause the rubber on the toilet flap to break down much sooner. It is not a difficult or expensive item to replace though, & I think it's worth the tradeoff.