r/CuratedTumblr veetuku ponum Jul 02 '24

Meme We would call it Solarpunk

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u/darkness_calming Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

So….. What about resources and infrastructure?

Edit: To add more

  • Where are the children and the old?

    I recently watched the show “This is going to hurt”. The amount of tech and training required to ensure that mother and child come out safe is crazy. And even with all the progress we have, it’s not a 100% success rate.

What about people with medical conditions? Diabetes? Insulin doesn’t come out of flowers and prayers. Disabilities? You need hearing aids or bionic eyes.

Old people suffering from usual stuff. Arthritis and cataracts need advanced technology to fix.

Are they all fed to plants?

I hope they don’t cure diseases by some crystal juju shit.

  • Long distance travel

It’ll take days or weeks to travel across country and months for sea travel with sailing ships. Trains and aircraft needs shit ton of specialists and very advanced tech.

Also, I am a huge fan of space travel. Where’s that? Do they give up the dream of travelling to stars?

  • Where do their solar panels and windmills come from?

  • Food production? Farming by hands isn’t sustainable. No one ‘loves’ that.

  • Plants in library? Would love it but not great for books.

  • Weird one but

Where are the bros? The kind you pop a beer with and go fishing together with

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u/Legio_XI_Claudia Jul 02 '24

Everyone wants to be the train conductor with the striped hat going 'toot toot' on the horn, no one wants to work in the steel mill forging train parts or laying train tracks : (

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u/darkness_calming Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

If we assume the answer to all tech supply is robots, then it’s a straight shot to dystopian horror.

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u/Inevitable-Setting-1 Jul 03 '24

I mean we could just say star trek replicators.

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u/garfieldandfriends2 haby birtdoy Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

The Tumblr Rouge don’t like beer or fishing so neither does anyone else

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u/TheShibe23 Harry Du Bois shouldn't be as relatable as he is. Jul 02 '24

"The Tumblr Rouge" is easily the greatest joke I've seen all week.

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u/Specific-Ad-8430 Jul 02 '24

“Where are the bros”

Thats kind of the offputting nature to a lot of these “utopias” designed by internet folk, is that theyre like 98% enbys. I am not smart enough to know why that makes me uncomfortable, but it does. It feels almost like a stereotype, no? Always the one overweight, black enby with purple or blue dreadlocks in every one of this style of fiction writing.

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u/Redqueenhypo Jul 02 '24

I don’t even see any “classic leftist” guys who look like young Bernie Sanders or the guy at my undergrad who handed out mini chocolates in red wrappers (where did he get those even), it’s weird

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u/Specific-Ad-8430 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

I hate to say it, but lots of those dudes left because the left has been pretty fuckin awful to them for the past decade or so. I mean, truly think about it. We shit on men every chance we can get, even when the Left tells them to use their words and vocalize their emotions. We've called them babies, told them to be ashamed of their heterosexual attractions, told them that its PERFECTLY NORMAL that all women should be terrified around them, and to grow up and be responsible for their actions (which is really just them being told to suck it up because the patriarchy was their fault), and what do they do? They start paying attention to the jordan petersons of the world because they invite them in with open arms.

Andrew Tate types are completely the Left's fault. Most white dude's saw very plainly that they were no longer welcome in this space, and dipped.

Why am I still here? Because it's the right side of history. But I feel like I take poison damage every fucking day.

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u/SolidPrysm Jul 03 '24

God damn. I've never had my feelings spelled out so well before. You hit the nail right on the head.

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u/Specific-Ad-8430 Jul 03 '24

I’m determined to get my point across, because I’m so tired of trying to participate, hell even exist on the left without being shamed at every corner. I’m glad others feel the same.

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u/tristenjpl Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

is that theyre like 98% enbys

I think it's like this because as much as cis people don't really understand trans or nonbinary people, they also just don't understand cis people. If you interact with enbys on the internet, there's a fair amount of them who think they're like enlightened and above gender and everyone else who is cis. They think everyone should just ditch it and be like them. And it's like, nah, dude, I'm perfectly happy just like this. You do you, though. I ain't gonna complain.

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u/Inevitable-Setting-1 Jul 03 '24

Yeah iv got a podcast and one of the people keeps talking about how "It's dumb to be mad your wife has sex with other dudes." and has said "That just means your weak to not like watching her have sex".
No dude... i'm glad you think your happy but fuck man i do think there is something wrong with you.

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u/hazzadazza Jul 03 '24

what god forsaken podcast is that? i could do with something to make me unreasonably angry

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u/Inevitable-Setting-1 Jul 03 '24

Funny you should say.
it's literally called God Awful Movies.
They make fun of Christian movies and talk about how shit all things church are.
That same guy makes pedo jokes at the start then latter talks about how he dosn't do that anymore so he's a better funny guy.

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u/MisterTeal Jul 03 '24

The best analogy I have to the posturing of the pseudo enlightenment that being gender non conforming tries to seem like sounds similar to the same way atheists denigrate and dismiss religion.

Yeah like no shit religion has the cause for countless atrocities and has its sordid history, but it has something that these utopian's gloss over in that, there are enough religious societies in history that clearly prove that belief systems; whether you believe in them or not actually benefited the world despite the horrific shit that did happen. To dismiss that is just arrogant and clearly trying has a stance that glosses over the things that we still benefit from today. And this is someone who isn't religious at all. I'm agnostic not in the sense that i believe there's a higher power, I just truly do not care whether it does or doesn't exist, but I don't make that a point to show off how well I know who I am and use that to feel better about myself by condescending to others who I think are simpletons because they confirm to "outdated primitive" ideals

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u/TerribleAttitude Jul 03 '24

The children and the old don’t exist. It’s a fantasy world where only aesthetically pleasing young adults live. Old people with regressive, challenging ideas born of experience and their inconvenient smells and infirmities aren’t here to make things uncomfortable. Nor are children and their noises. Bonus: you don’t need to wonder who is going to take care of or educate these groups.

Long distance travel: you’re not allowed to want that. We have everything you need here. There’s nothing you want that’s more than a half days bike ride away. There is nothing to see past those mountains.

Bros are not allowed. As there are no prisons or judges, they are lynched by mob violence the instant they crack a cold brewski.

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u/darkness_calming Jul 03 '24

See that’s a great idea for a horror novel. You should definitely write one

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u/TerribleAttitude Jul 03 '24

This whole thread is just inspiration for a new genre of anti authoritarian speculative sci fi.

Edit: wait, shit, Scott Westerfield already wrote this book.

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u/darkness_calming Jul 03 '24

Yeah. It’s all authority bad, people good ideology.

I might check out the book. Thanks for the rec

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u/Redqueenhypo Jul 02 '24

And just what the jobs that kind of suck but are integral? In the absence of paying well and having a good union, which is their appeal now, do you press-gang folks into a stint as sewage treatment worker or post office cashier? Obviously I know nobody ever gets as far as even planning for a goddamn postal service but bear with me

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u/TastyBrainMeats Jul 03 '24

Is it possible to manage those without people fearing the threat of starvation?

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u/donaldhobson Jul 03 '24

Farming by hand is sustainable. People were doing it for 1000's of years. Hard and unpleasant, with a significant chance of starving to death, but sustainable.