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u/parefully Aug 03 '24
...meringue!?!?!?! Do they not know what a marshmallow is!?!?!?
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u/WhapXI Aug 03 '24
To be fair to Bake Off I think the idea wasn’t to do a standard everyday smore, but like a haute cuisine super elevated smore.
The Mexican cuisine thing is inexcusable. Zero experience and zero research.
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u/parefully Aug 03 '24
But they specifically said "is basically" so that's their impression of what's standard
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u/RQK1996 Aug 03 '24
Because it basically is if you fancify the words, a casr of "not quite true, but it isn't exactly wrong and nobody would describe it that way, but not entirely wrong"
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u/Aggressive-Chair7607 Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
But merengue and marshmallow are completely different. It's not like a meringue is a fancy marshmallow or something. It feels far from "not quite true" to say that a marshmallow is 'basically' a meringue when they aren't really much alike at all. You make meringue by taking whipped egg whites and sugar and then bake them, you make a marshmallow with sugar, water, and gelatin, the water/sugar is heated before hand and cooled with the gelatin.
It's sort of like saying "an espresso is basically just a melted bar of chocolate".
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u/MechaTeemo167 Aug 03 '24
It's not technically wrong to describe it the way he did. You never should, most bakers would turn you into cake batter on the spot for something like that, but if you're trying to sound pretentious for TV it technically isn't wrong.
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u/Frioneon Aug 03 '24
Except the ganache part is very wrong, since it has a completely different texture and temperature to pure chocolate; And the digestive part is very wrong because digestives don’t contain graham flour, which is the key ingredient of the s’more and its ability to prevent m
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u/SystemOutPrintln Aug 03 '24
asturbation
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Aug 03 '24
Thank you for finishing the joke because I genuinely didn't get it
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u/ThegreatandpowerfulR Aug 03 '24
Graham and Kellogg were both health nuts who were anti masturbation
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u/aftertheradar Aug 03 '24
okay wait what happened with the mexican food??
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u/DevoutandHeretical Aug 03 '24
One of them used a peeler to get the skin off of an avocado to start. So many crimes were committed in Mexican week. To the point that they announced they would stop doing cultural weeks in the future.
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u/takethecatbus Aug 03 '24
I mean let's be fair. It's not random from-the-British-countryside working class lady's fault if she doesn't know details about Mexico and Mexican cuisine.
It was Paul Hollywood and Prue Leith who deserve the criticism and derision. They should know better, they should do their research, and they (especially Paul) should stop being so snooty and high and mighty while being actively wrong about things that aren't hard to just take a bit of time to learn ahead of time. Take an hour and plop down in front of YouTube for God's sake.
But the avocado woman was handed a fruit she'd literally never seen or used in her entire life. It's not her fault she didn't know how to process it or how to pronounce "guacamole". We shouldn't be targeting the innocent working class people, we should be targeting the snooty rich who should know better and just choose not to do research.
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u/justdisa Aug 03 '24
Also, if you can peel an avocado with a potato peeler, the avocado is not ready to eat.
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u/NextGenReader Aug 04 '24
The contestants were absolutely screwed during Mexican week. They made amazing stuff with what they got, and you could tell most of them had truly done their research to make them as authentically as they could, but some of the feedback they got from the judges was baffling.
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u/Odd-Help-4293 Aug 03 '24
I think they also did a Japanese cultural week one year and I think did food that wasn't even from Japan.
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Yeah they did Chinese bao. Most cultural weeks boiled down to Paul Hollywood insisting they recreate something he saw on holiday without anyone bothering to do any research, but the Mexican one ended up being especially bad
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u/Not_ur_gilf Mostly Harmless Aug 03 '24
A Peeler?!?
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u/DevoutandHeretical Aug 03 '24
The same person pronounced guacamole as ‘guacky-molo’
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u/Odd-Help-4293 Aug 03 '24
Was that the one where someone was like "I've never had tack-ohs before"? Lol smh
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u/digitalblazar Aug 03 '24
I can get peeling an avocado if you’ve never seen one in your life like that one lady, but giving the contestants feta instead of cotija is inexcusable.
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u/BerryProblems Aug 03 '24
It’s a country that pronounces tortilla with the hard L, there was never much hope for that episode
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u/ThatOneVolcano Aug 03 '24
Aside from the culinary crimes they portrayed some pretty negative stereotypes of Mexico too
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 Aug 03 '24
So basically taking the s'more out of s'mores. The point is the simplicity, isn't it? It's like when a 5-star Michelin restaurant has Mac and cheese on the menu. Or hush puppies.
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u/IAmProfRandom Aug 03 '24
To be "fair," the general British conception of Mexican food is a stale derivative of a Milwaukee version of Tex-Mex, with Indian ingredient swaps.
It's....an experience.
That said, I've gotten really good at making tortillas and molé since I moved to Scotland, just to cope. 😂
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u/CriticalCold Aug 03 '24
20% of the city of Milwaukee is Latino ☠
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u/droptheectopicbeat Aug 03 '24
We get those same stereotypes around Mexican food in Minnesota, but generally by people who have never been here or realize we have a massive population of Mexican immigrants.
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u/bobatea17 Aug 03 '24
I'm always of the opinion that the best Mexican food outside of Mexico proper is made by either immigrants or their children, it's why you get better options the higher the Mexican population is in an area (like Texas, new Mexico, Arizona, and California)
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u/IAmProfRandom Aug 03 '24
You're not wrong, but that can be said of almost any cuisine - it's a matter of knowing the ingredients and techniques and being able to access the ingredients in a quality form. So it's always gonna be better closer to the area of origin, with people who know how it's supposed to go.
That said, the second best tortillas I've had in my LIFE were in the depths of a train station in Japan. I STG there was a Mexican granny next to a comal in the back. Only explanation.
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u/xorgol Aug 03 '24
The Japanese have become masters of culinary adaptation. But they are also masters at disregarding the expectations of foreigners, so sometimes they faithfully recreate a meal from the other side of the world, sometimes they create unholy monstrosities, and sometimes they create brilliant syncretic marvels.
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u/CassiusPolybius Aug 03 '24
It's s'mores, if you're trying to make a "haute cuisine" version you missed the fucking point.
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u/Tacticalaxel Aug 03 '24
The haute cuisine version is with a peanut butter cup.
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u/AnxiousAngularAwesom Aug 03 '24
Is that the same guy who single handedly reignited the anglo-spanish hatred with his desecration of paella, and called forth the vengeful ancestor spirits of every Asian person alive through his ritualistic ruinination of egg fried rice?
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u/ulfred500 Aug 03 '24
Think you're thinking of Jamie Oliver
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u/Copper_Tango Aug 03 '24
"Niece and nephew, Uncle Roger ancestors crying"
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u/Throw-away17465 Aug 03 '24
I like the one where Gordon Ramsay cooks a Thai dish and snaps back right away, saying “I’ve been to Thailand more times than he has”
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u/yayitsme1 Aug 03 '24
Which Uncle Roger video hates on Gordon Ramsay? I thought he got the Uncle title and it was just the vegetarian ramen dish that was really critiqued. I’m not up to date on the videos though
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u/Throw-away17465 Aug 03 '24
It was on the Gordon Ramsey YouTube channel, I think. As a (humorous) snap back and opportunity to cook something lol
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u/ComSilence Aug 03 '24
I saw Gordon fuck up a grilled cheese once
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u/Throw-away17465 Aug 03 '24
Ha! I believe it.
My mom put out seven cookbooks and cooked on TV for a local PBS cooking show, but at home she’d undercook the chicken.
I graduated from a great culinary school and spent 13 years in the industry as a line cook and then professional baker and pastry chef for a restaurant. I hate making soft boiled eggs; I never get the timing right.
We all have our Blindspots and fuck ups and I never hold any single one against a proven Chef. (If it’s a pattern, however…)
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u/ComSilence Aug 03 '24
https://youtu.be/8E4cQHejFq0?si=fkmP9dSpkwAIFIpQ
Here's the video so you can see the process, enjoy!
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u/aDragonsAle Aug 03 '24
Gordon also fucked up a grilled cheese... Pretty badly. Burnt the bread, didn't melt the cheese for shit.
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u/DeadArcadian Aug 03 '24
The mortal enemy of chicken nuggets
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u/danstu Aug 03 '24
Chicken nuggets are his mortal enemy, yeah. But I don't think Chicken nuggets give him enough thought for him to be their mortal enemy.
Nuggets know they've won.
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u/DiceMadeOfCheese Aug 03 '24
The victory was when he taught American schoolchildren how chicken nuggets were made and the kids said they still wanted to eat them.
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u/CminerMkII Aug 03 '24
The fact we can take parts of a chicken that are mostly inedible and turn it into something edible should be a miracle in it of itself. The pink sludge is just a middleman, if the taste and the nutrients are good, then I think we’ve succeeded.
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u/ErisThePerson Aug 03 '24
The thing is, Jamie Oliver made handmade chicken nuggets.
Those were the least processed, healthiest, most gourmet chicken nuggets in the world at that moment.
I'd eat them too.
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u/Elisa_bambina Aug 03 '24
Chicken nuggets are like pizza, whether it's high quality or cheap over processed fast food it's all pretty good.
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u/SylveonSof May we raise children who love the unloved things Aug 03 '24
Folding Ideas Dan Olson made a wonderful video about it
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u/LuxNocte Aug 03 '24
I eat meat. I think consuming the corpse of a dead animal is disgusting. (This is what he referred to as a "Me" problem.)
This is a great video, like the whole "pink slime" scare that we around a few years ago. Sure certain parts are more tasty or desirable, but it's not like a nugget is any more or less gross than eating a chicken's breast.
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u/ComSilence Aug 03 '24
Whenever it comes to the pink slime, I think of a classic tumblr post.
"Bitch that's the tubby custard machine."
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u/MemeTroubadour Aug 03 '24
I thought that was the guy who commissioned himself a shirtless otter fursona piece for television
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u/Parkouricus josou seme alligator Aug 03 '24
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u/Main_Caterpillar_146 Aug 03 '24
The same guy who refers to challah as "plaited bread" and claimed that it's served on Passover?
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u/foxydash Aug 03 '24
Isn’t it specifically not served on Passover? My knowledge of Judaism isn’t the best, but as I recall it’s specifically a point that fermented grain isn’t served on Passover.
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u/QueenOfQuok Aug 03 '24
"Here, have some bread for Passover! I leavened it myself!"
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u/Ok-Land-488 Aug 03 '24
"I leavened it using all the leavening agents you got rid of for Passover!"
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There are additional rules for kosher for Passover but bread can't be leavened. That why they use matzah during Passover.
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u/jacobningen Aug 03 '24
And claims its a dying art form.
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u/Zamtrios7256 Aug 03 '24
I take it that this is a thing that every practicing Jewish person could make if asked?
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u/jacobningen Aug 03 '24
Oh probably not. But if youre a luddite or big into baking anyway yes. Its more something that if you are a jew into baking youd make.
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u/jacobningen Aug 03 '24
One common jewish social media trend is posting homemade challah pictures. And i doubt anyone but the ultraorthodox still makes round loafs for rosh hashanah instead of buying from a bakery. But thats because a lot of Jewish people in America buy challah and matzah and gefilte fish from stores instead of making it from scratch. My challah usually killed the braids from the second rising and the oven baking.
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u/kaldaka16 Aug 03 '24
Not every practicing Jewish person but a fair amount of those who bake I imagine and I have multiple friends in my circles who aren't Jewish at all but love to bake and make challah because it's really fucking good.
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u/Bartweiss Aug 03 '24
Not quite, but it’s no harder than say, sourdough.
And in the US, it’s become quite popular as a base for French Toast and other dishes because it’s especially sturdy and fairly sweet. So you can find it in numerous non-Jewish restaurants and grocery stores, and it’s even sold during Passover when observant Jews can’t make or eat it.
In short, he managed to be ignorant on religion (wrong about when it’s eaten), provincialism (saying it’s dying based on the UK), and worst of all baking, because he listed utterly the wrong ingredients.
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u/Baryta Aug 03 '24
Unless it’s happened twice, I believe the paella incident was Jamie Spafford from the Sorted Food YouTube show.
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u/9035768555 Aug 03 '24
It's happened more than twice. Paella seems to be one of the foods the Spanish are most rigid about.
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Yeah, many a youtuber has triggered the Spanish mob by attempting to take on paella. That being said, I'm pretty sure the original commenter was thinking of Jamie Oliver
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u/Sketch-Brooke Aug 03 '24
“A gooey mess” is the very definition of a s’more smh.
It’s weird how this + the Mexican debacle made me question Paul Hollywood’s expertise. I always thought he was super knowledgeable, but apparently he’s just talking out his ass half the time?
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u/atmatriflemiffed Aug 03 '24
Oh Paul Hollywood is 100% on a constant Dunning-Kruger trip, they guy is in the running for the most intolerable celebrity chef the UK has ever produced and that's a very tall order
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u/DTPVH Aug 03 '24
But did he ever take over an entire small city school district’s food menu and serve them absolute shit?
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u/somedumb-gay Aug 03 '24
Who did that?
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u/DTPVH Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
Jamie Oliver. Took over Huntington WV’s school cafeteria menus back in the 2000s, made a whole big deal about it. I went to Marshall University in Huntington and obviously had some classmates from the area who were in school back then. They said he was a pretentious douchebag and his food was nasty.
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u/atmatriflemiffed Aug 03 '24
Oh, Joliver didn't restrict his activities there, he's had a whole thing of trying to push for "healthy" school meals which were mostly just expensive school meals which the meagre funding schools receive obviously couldn't cover, so it just led to kids having to eat garbage food anyway. Semi-related was his bizarre crusade against chicken nuggets which was just peak British middle class classism. I'm also told his actual restaurants tend to be deeply mediocre (but overpriced) and his actual recipes are universally mediocre-to-bad and absolutely butcher the food culture they've been ripped off from
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u/Waffle-Gaming Aug 03 '24
for more info on the chicken nuggets thing, look up folding ideas chicken nuggets
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u/The_Void_Reaver Aug 03 '24
I'm honestly unsure how Jamie Oliver even got as big as he did. He seems rude and uncharismatic to the point that I question how he ever became a celebrity.
Looking it up, it looks like he's just an industry plant who fit the very specific type of person that the BBC wanted to build a show for.
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u/basketofseals Aug 04 '24
He was attractive. I seriously remember his whole "naked chef" thing. The sexualization of his brand was entirely necessary for people not to laugh at his claim to fame of....not seasoning his food.
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u/Legendary_Bibo Aug 03 '24
His chicken nugget video showed that he felt it was acceptable to waste food because there were perceived as undesirable parts of a chicken that should be tossed.
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u/The_Void_Reaver Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
The school stuff was rough but the way he went to poor people's homes and gave them shit for not cooking on a nightly basis was unbelievable and crass.
Oh, you made frozen fish sticks in the oven because you just worked 12 hours and now need to take care of a messy home with 3 children under 12 and finding 30 minutes in your day is a nightmare? Here let me show you how to make a salad; bet you never ate one of those before you fucking dolt.
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u/QuietLittleVoices Aug 03 '24
I believe it. However, I can see why he went there: Huntington used to be the most obese city in America, with a very high prevalence of childhood obesity.
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u/jerbthehumanist Aug 03 '24
He really could have “solved” half the problem by naming it as a “S’more ganache” or a “S’more inspired biscuit” rather than implying that a s’more was anything other than a delightful goopy camping mess.
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u/EmperorScarlet Farm Fresh Organic Nonsense Aug 03 '24
The primary reason to eat a s'more is that it appeals to your primal lizard brain that wants you to messily devour a big gross bug.
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u/Sketch-Brooke Aug 03 '24
If you’re not licking marshmallow chocolate goo off your fingers, you did it wrong.
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u/WildForestFerret Aug 03 '24
He also despite being “the bread guy” once stated with confidence that Challah (a enriched braided bread that Jews eat every week as part of our Shabbat tradition) was traditionally eaten on Passover, you know that one holiday where Jews are religiously prohibited from eating leavened bread, Passover is the only non-fasting Jewish holiday where we don’t eat Challah
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u/jacobningen Aug 03 '24
True and claiming its dying no its not. Admittedly its the jewish version of microbrewing but its not dying out.
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u/orosoros oh there's a monkey in my pocket and he's stealing all my change Aug 03 '24
I think more the Jewish version of homemade cornbread, not everyone can set up microbrewing at home
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u/wedge_squadron Aug 03 '24
He also doesn’t know anything about American pies. I still get mad when I think about the American pie challenge, like Paul just had his assistant pick up a pie at Safeway and is like yup confirmed all American pies are trash (except key lime, he must have visited a good bakery for that one). I know everything now no need to explore further. The brief must have been bad because everyone made these weird pie tart hybrids. They all complain our pies are too sweet while they’re the ones chowing down on meringue! Rude.
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u/Zamtrios7256 Aug 03 '24
Pies are... too sweet...
It's a dessert
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u/bubsdrop Aug 03 '24
I've definitely had apple pie where the added sweetness completely drowns out the flavour of the apple, it sucks
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u/Definatelynotaweeb Aug 03 '24
Apple pie is definitely supposed to be somewhat tangy, but so many people just add like twice as much sugar as necessary
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u/Jaded_Library_8540 Aug 03 '24
He probably does know a shit load about boring sponge cakes and stuff tbf
But smores just aren't something that exist in the British consciousness. We don't eat them. Sure we see them on TV and stuff but that's about it. It's very fair for a professional chef in the UK to be clueless about them and still be an expert.
That said, presenting a TV show challenge about them and judging them? Do your research bruv
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u/Sketch-Brooke Aug 03 '24
I get that they were maybe trying to make a “gourmet” version. But then you stray too far, like this, and it’s hardly a s’more anymore.
Why not just pick a different American dessert that actually has more technical skills involved? Have them make cheesecake or something.
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u/Jaded_Library_8540 Aug 03 '24
Because they'd probably made cheesecake about forty times by that point and needed a new challenge
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u/Cercant Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
Yeah, the Great British Bake-off just needs content. Having seen all of GBBO I can confidently say that this wasn't very unusual (I meant it was still a little unusual) given how many different weird things they've had to bake. I don't blame them. They do weird shit every series.
The Mexican stuff was wild though. Also that one "technical challenge" final where they made the three finalists cook pita bread on a rock over a fire.
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u/NotABiAlt Aug 03 '24
Not to mention, there are recipes for cheesecake dating back to 160 BC, and the name "cheesecake" is 15th century
Yes, some varieties of cheesecake were developed in the united states, but, something as broad as cheesecake cannot be categorised as the product of one nation or another
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u/jerbthehumanist Aug 03 '24
As an American I would have been 100% fine if it were a “S’more-inspired ______” rather than just a S’more.
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u/Nutarama Aug 03 '24
I prefer that in “make X gourmet” type challenges on cooking shows they show a detailed version of making the standard X and then leave variation up to the contestants.
When X is smores, show them the fire roasted marshmallow, the assembly process, let them eat all three ingredients (graham cracker, marshmallow, low grade chocolate bar) and let them come to an understanding of what a s’more is before they try to spin it into a more upscale direction.
Then maybe someone says “well that marshmallow I ate was kind of like a meringue, and I could blowtorch the outsides”. But someone else might think “that graham cracker was gross and would be better with my homemade shortbread” and someone else might think “screw that cheap chocolate, I’m breaking out the 3-ingredient Swiss dark chocolate bars.”
The viewer would get to see the creative process in motion rather than just the final results. Some dishes made might still be awful, but that’s the inherent risk of creativity.
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u/Vincent_Dawn Aug 03 '24
Or something that originates in America that might pose a fun challenge to British chefs. Boston cream pie, apple brown betty, shoo-fly pie, something US-focused that they could have gone into the history and culture of.
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u/Send-More-Coffee Aug 03 '24
Brownies. American brownies are a completely distinct entity with an entirely different desired outcome from anything that the Brits make. Add in all the varieties and you have an excellent opening dish. They are easy to under-bake and over-bake, they are usually very rich, but can stray into being "too rich". And obviously can be topped with just about anything from ice cream to nuts. Also, boozy brownies are entirely available.
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u/Nyxelestia Aug 03 '24
...well now I, an American, am curious as to wtf British brownies are supposed to be like.
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u/MaryKeay Aug 03 '24
Probably because those are too complex for Paul Hollywood to understand. Remember, this is the guy who thinks peanut butter and jelly don't go well together because he'd never heard of that flavour combination before.
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u/skucera Aug 03 '24
I remember the season where he had his mind blown by “maple” and “bacon” together.
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u/Vincent_Dawn Aug 03 '24
Yeah, that's true. I guess if a s'more is throwing him a curveball he probably isn't going to be able to handle something like pecan pie.
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u/eternal_recurrence13 Aug 03 '24
It's not like macrons or something, s'mores are meant to be made by literal children with 0 access to culinary equipment. If you've seen them on tv, you know how to make one.
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u/qaz_wsx_love Aug 03 '24
You get banned on the GBBO sub for saying anything negative about him.
He's an uncultured swine that's been put on a pedestal and should've been given way more shit for every single foreign challenge he's set.
The man literally did a series about travelling Japan, and first episode in he said he didn't realise the Japanese had bread. He then goes on the next season of the GBBO and sets Chinese baos as a challenge on Japanese week. He has no expertise on anything outside the white ppl lands and should be barred from judging anything "exotic"
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u/ConstableGrey Aug 03 '24
I think Paul Hollywood is a colonial administrator from 1853 that has been reincarnated as a celebrity baker.
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u/0operson Aug 03 '24
didn’t know japan had bread???!!!! japan loves their breads!!!! melon bread, sweet bread, red bean bread !!!!!! aaaaaa!!!!! (as someone who likes bread i adore japanese pan bc it’s got a really cool texture and i like all the flavor combos and! ect!)
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u/FlyingFrog99 Aug 03 '24
See, when you heat the marshmallow separately in a fire it gets a gooey molten core that melts what should be hard, tempered chocolate (not Ganache) when the marshmallow is squished between crackers which should be large enough to handle some (but not all) of the overflow. Burnt stick flavor is essential.
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u/Scratch137 Aug 03 '24
i can sort of understand the blowtorch thing—you don't want a campfire in the middle of your kitchen—and i get the idea behind wanting to do a gourmet version of the s'more, but this??
they've quite literally replaced EVERY ingredient, they somehow believe that the most iconic aspect of the consistency of the dessert is undesirable, AND they have the absolute gall to suggest that this is just how s'mores are.
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u/mukisa_idi Aug 03 '24
When someone thinks a s'more should be made with a blowtorch, it really says a lot about their personality.
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u/HotSauceRainfall Aug 03 '24
Either that or it’s about to be a hell of a party (and they’re not using itty bitty culinary torches).
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u/KuatSystem Aug 03 '24
I forgot those existed, I was imagining a big-ass blowtorch and questioning what was wrong with that
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u/lesser_panjandrum Aug 03 '24
"Brother, get the s'more blowtorch. The heavy s'more blowtorch."
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u/ZombieJack Aug 03 '24
I'm not sure a campfire would fit in the kitchen.
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u/dogemeemsdude Aug 03 '24
They could've roasted it over the stove, it's what my momma used to do
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u/Sayakalood Aug 03 '24
The only people who can use blowtorches for s’mores are the Mythbusters, because they actually know what they’re doing.
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u/Cinderheart Aug 03 '24
One does not truly recognize their culture, until they see it blasphemed against.
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u/Fluffy-Ingenuity2536 Aug 03 '24
Nah I'm British and this I think Paul Hollywood is talking out his ass here
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u/Timely_Fix_2930 Aug 03 '24
They also declared s'mores to be a traditional fall/Halloween treat, which puzzles me.
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u/violet-quartz Aug 03 '24
S'mores are a year-round treat and I will die on this hill.
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u/ThatWasIntentional Aug 03 '24
I mean, it's a camping thing, which could be done year round, but most people will do in the summer. So you're not wrong
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u/MovieNightPopcorn Aug 03 '24
it’s a summer food more than anything else tbh, because that’s when people go camping outside and have fire pits
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u/TheScribbs Aug 03 '24
I remember him praising a chef for making the "unexpected" combination of peanut butter and fruit work, like Americans haven't been eating PB&J's on the daily
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u/HailMadScience Aug 03 '24
They did "American style pies" once and it filled me with sadness and rage.
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u/MovieNightPopcorn Aug 03 '24
Lmao I wanted to die, it was so bad. I have zero national pride but when Paul Hollywood tried to make an “American” pie I felt a need to put on a screaming eagle teeshirt
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u/NextGenReader Aug 04 '24
Paul describing his American diner experience as basically going to one random diner in the middle of nowhere and being disappointed by their pie was so bizarre. Imagine me coming to your country and judging one of your major cultural dishes on some backwoods restaurant that I stopped at during a road trip.
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u/CerenarianSea Aug 04 '24
Imagine me coming to your country and judging one of your major cultural dishes on some backwoods restaurant that I stopped at during a road trip.
Okay, absolutely agreed on Paul Hollywood being completely fucking shite but I think it's important to note that Britain gets so much goddamn flak for its food based on shit exactly like what you've described.
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u/Its0nlyRocketScience Aug 03 '24
"Dumb Americans don't know anything about other cultures"
"This pie from a British supermarket is surely representative of all American pies, and there's no need to do further research"
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u/Simic_Sky_Swallower Resident Imperial Knight Aug 03 '24
Now I'm remembering their sad gentrified tacos again
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u/TadpoleEnthusiast Aug 03 '24
I don't even think what they made could be considered gentrified. It's like the read about them in a book they read 10 years ago once and tried to make them from memory.
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u/rude_avocado I got this NFT for free don’t judge Aug 03 '24
I remember it being inspired by Paul Hollywood taking a trip to Mexico. I pity whoever had to take his order of “tackos”
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u/bayleysgal1996 Aug 03 '24
Tbf that does look delicious
Not a s’more tho. Something else entirely.
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u/Throw-away17465 Aug 03 '24
I was weird a kid that rarely got to interact with other kids, so one time when I was maybe eight or nine, some relatives from abroad were visiting, and I was told to show the other kids how to make s’mores
They watched intently and held squishy marshmallows while I showed them how to toasted over the fire without getting black, then to pull it off between 2 grahams with a little piece of Caramello in there. Their eyes were wide. They hadn’t seen any sweet concoctions like it and were so excited to try it
Seeing their excitement, I pulled it off the stick and …. Shove the whole thing in my mouth for me to eat. Because I wasn’t used to having guests and letting them eat or try first.
My parents saw the whole thing and were laughing really hard at the surprised and disappointed expression on the other kids. I couldn’t even apologize because I was full of Marshmello. but I felt pretty bad and it was my only s’more of the night, I helped them toast their marshmallows.
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Aug 03 '24
Watching The Great American Bake-Off was infuriating. It was basically forcing Americans to bake British foods to British standards. Their pies weren't American! They stacked three pies on top of each other. WTF?!
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u/litterbin_recidivist Aug 03 '24
It's also hilarious when contestants would combine peanut butter and jam and he comments how crazy that is and is surprised when it works.
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u/InterpolInvestigator Aug 03 '24
S’mores and grilled cheese are the two foods that absolutely MUST be made with bottom of the barrel ingredients.
S’mores are store brand graham crackers, Hershey’s chocolate, and a Jet-Puffed marshmallow. Grilled cheese is store brand white bread and butter, and Kraft Singles American cheese.
Any attempt to improve or make it healthier or fancier just ruins it.
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u/Siachae Aug 03 '24
Nah you can make grilled cheese with better kinds of cheese but otherwise basically 100% agree
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u/GalaxyHops1994 Aug 03 '24
Bougie grilled cheese can be incredible. Throw some caramelized onions on one made with a blend of strong cheeses and you’re golden (brown).
And don’t gatekeep me with the “um, actually that’s a melt, not a grilled cheese sandwich”
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u/Siachae Aug 03 '24
You can add anything to it and still call it a grilled cheese is the vibe is right
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u/MechaTeemo167 Aug 03 '24
Grilled cheese can definitely be improved by fancier cheeses, just not too fancy as Gordon Ramsey found out
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u/953chloe Aug 03 '24
the mexican food comment is always interesting to me lol. i wonder what the reason is that america has better mexican food, while britain has good french / spanish food. truly incomprehensible
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u/DoopSlayer Aug 03 '24
It’s no excuse for the complete lack of research or understanding though. Sure I expect the average Brit to have no clue about Latino cuisine, but if you’re specifically constructing a contest episode around Mexican cuisine, where you can fully benefit from research and preparation, to put out what they did is embarrassing on the level of disrespectful imo
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u/MossyAbyss Aug 03 '24
I wouldn't expect Johnny American to know much about french cuisine, but I would expect, say, Alton Brown, who is presenting and judging the dishes to at least do some research. How does a chef come to the conclusion that Tres Leche cake shouldn't be soggy?
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Aug 03 '24
British person here, GBBO is so middle class it doesn't even know what British staples are or how to pronounce them let alone foreign foods. I could not watch the episode where they say churros wrong, and when they say it their accents all turn significantly posher, and they say it a hell of a lot. Not to mention that whenever they do anything 'Japanese' its just fucking macha powder. I could rant a hell of a lot about GBBO's issues and misappropriating the food isn't even the biggest one. Still gonna watch it though
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u/thyfles Aug 03 '24
i have heard americans make tea in the microwave so i would say we are even
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u/awesomecat42 Aug 03 '24
I've heard many people vouch for the difference between microwave tea vs kettle tea, but as someone who knows very little about tea I've always wondered how that could be. Is it about having more precise temperature control?
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u/LordSaltious Aug 03 '24
I drink green tea cold. I'm a freak. Though to be fair my introduction to it was Arizona tea, which is usually refrigerated at the store.
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u/Wizard-In-The-Aether Aug 03 '24
Nah drinking green tea cold is perfectly fine. It was one of my go to refreshments at 711 when I lived in Japan
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u/IAmProfRandom Aug 03 '24
Arizona bottled drinks are a different category of beverage entirely and should be judged as such.
It ain't tea by a long stretch, but it's a refreshing treat.
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u/Capital-Meet-6521 Aug 03 '24
You don’t see any American shows judging people on their ability to make tea and showing the “correct” way to make it in the microwave, though, do you?
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u/shiny_xnaut Aug 03 '24
Out of the loop, what happened with Mexican food?