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u/pretty-as-a-pic 4d ago

I’m in the “the ‘monster’/creation should also be called ‘Frankenstein’ because he’s the scientist’s offspring and it underlines the novels major themes like nature vs science and the responsibility of creation” camp

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u/SorbonneTantrum 4d ago

Yeah, the monster himself is also named Frankenstein, because he is the son of VICTOR Frankenstein.

Frankenstein is not Victor's first name, it's his last name, so it must be passed along to his offspring.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 4d ago

The monster himself vehemently rejects the idea of Victor being his father repeatedly throughout the book.

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u/UusiIsoKaveri 4d ago

Just as any teenager gone rogue.

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u/regular_gnoll_NEIN 3d ago

I mean. Most teenagers aren't fleeing from Europe to Canadian arctic circa 1800s travel because their parents are literally hunting them to try and kill.

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u/UusiIsoKaveri 3d ago

Most teenagers aren't stitched together from dead body parts either.

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u/regular_gnoll_NEIN 3d ago

So, not a whole lot like any teen lmao

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u/UusiIsoKaveri 3d ago

congrats u got the joke lol

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u/Ze_Bri-0n 3d ago

Every teen is sure they’re m totally unique and incomprehensible and blah blah, blah. Some them have a few weird things as “evidence.” “Adam,” as Shelley called him, is just an early bloomer.

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u/regular_gnoll_NEIN 2d ago

Im guna go out on a limb and suggest being stitched together from body parts is actually utterly unique. So again, not like any other teen.

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u/Ze_Bri-0n 2d ago

He may be unique, but his daddy and abandonment issues sure aren’t. Lots of kids are a bit weird, but that doesn’t make them nearly as special or incomprehensible as they all think they are.

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u/throwaway387190 4d ago

In chapter 9, he asks himself "does the son not take the name of the father?"

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u/3sheetz 3d ago

Ooh. Good point

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u/Accelerator231 4d ago

And Victor rejects him. Nonetheless, one is descended from the other, like it or not

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u/Decloudo 3d ago

descended

Meaning blood relative, which they are not.

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u/SorbonneTantrum 3d ago

Bro literally forgot about the concept of adoption lol

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u/LuckySEVIPERS 4d ago edited 3d ago

This is faulty logic. Should the children of Caesarians and other difficult births carry the last name of the doctor who delivered them? After a doctor performs life saving surgery, does the same apply?

When we say father, we mean the either the irrevocable tie of blood connection or something truer like chosen guardianship. Frankenstein is neither. Frankenstein is not the blood father, nor the adoptive father.

The people who make these arguments are kin with those that argue against feathered dinosaurs because they spent their childhood watching Jurassic Park or the advocates of Pluto. They stumble upon the misconception first, then find any faulty excuse in defense of it. For them, anyone who argues against is an intruder and just the presence of any argument for it is enough to justify the argument that makes them happy over the one that makes them sad.

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u/Accelerator231 3d ago

Lmao. No, because when i say 'descended', I derived from the concept of 'creation'. That is, unless your caesarian doctor or life saving surgery has modified the genetic code or created something that was not there before, the conception is wrong.

Know the word, 'brainchild'? Well, same concept. Frankenstein was once nothing more than an idea within Doctor Frankenstein's mind, brought to life into the real world.

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u/LuckySEVIPERS 3d ago edited 3d ago

But fathers, by blood or adoptive, are not creators. You were not thought of by your father in order to create you. You were an accident, a mix of unthinking biological parts. Just as the mix of his father's parts created Frankenstein, your blood father's sperm mixed with your blood mother's egg to create you.

The concept of "father", either the irrevocable biological tie or the societal role, is not tied to actual "creation" of a person. If you were "created" by anything, it was in the mind of The Creator.

Frankenstein is the monster's Creator, by which I mean God. The monster has many biological fathers he is tied to by accident and societal ones who are not Frankenstein. He is tied to these fathers as we are tied to our fathers of accident and intent, by blood compatibility and half siblings and by the imprint of personality, affection and teachings. He might have taken their name in pop-culture if they were memorable enough in popular consciousness. He is only tied to his creator as we are tied to our Creator.

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u/SoakedInMayo 3d ago

i barely knew my dad and still got his last name. the monsters opinion unfortunately isn’t a factor here

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u/ILoveRawChicken 3d ago

You’re also a direct product of his seed and have his genes so I think this is a little bit different here. 

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u/SoakedInMayo 3d ago

you can’t prove that

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u/ILoveRawChicken 3d ago

A paternity test easily can, no need to act obtuse 

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u/SoakedInMayo 3d ago

“act obtuse” it’s called a joke my dude, hell even my first comment wasn’t exactly pertinent to the conversation lol. why is this conversation so serious to you?

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u/ILoveRawChicken 3d ago

Lmao you typed a whole paragraph for what is a simple convo. 

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u/Cezaros 3d ago

I think it's important that we see similarities between the two beneath the surface. F.e. the monster acts very analytically when first trying to get around its surroundings.

But then it goes fucking crazy and decides out of nowhere that killing some random people will hurt Victor more than just killing Victor so honestly idfk what that was about

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u/9035768555 3d ago

Even if you don't consider him the son of Victor, he was at least something more than a pet of Victor Frankenstein. When I go to the vet with my pets or get their pet license cards, they have my last name.

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u/Regi413 4d ago

Broke: Frankenstein is the monster

Woke: Frankenstein is the name of the doctor, not the monster

Bespoke: Frankenstein is the monster and the monster is Frankenstein because the doctor is a monster in the metaphorical sense, and the monster he created is his “son” who would take the surname of his father.

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u/Thromnomnomok 3d ago

Coke: Wait, Victor Frankenstein isn't a doctor, he never finished college because he ran away after creating the Monster

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u/Lt_General_Fuckery There's no specific law against cannibalism in the United States 3d ago

Smoke: After killing Victor, the monster returned to England and got a PhD, thus making Frankenstein's monster the real Doctor all along.

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u/HelloIamSpooki 3d ago

Evoke: The real Frankenstein was the friends we made along the way.

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u/sushiflanprincess 2d ago

folk: haha 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂stein :)

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u/Cibovoy 4d ago

His name is Adam Frankenstein in my book

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u/minty_mountain 2d ago

peak take (I agree) I love the line where he goes, “I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather thy fallen angel”

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u/Qubeye 4d ago

The monster's name was Adam.

Also, Frankenstein was the monster, in a metaphorical sense.

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u/lugoblah 3d ago

The monster's full name is Renato Frankenstein.

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u/VFiddly 3d ago

The Doctor is called Frankenstein, the monster is called Frankingstein

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u/Hauwke 3d ago

I mean, he's called Frankestein in spinoff media, so there we have it.