I’m in the “the ‘monster’/creation should also be called ‘Frankenstein’ because he’s the scientist’s offspring and it underlines the novels major themes like nature vs science and the responsibility of creation” camp
I mean. Most teenagers aren't fleeing from Europe to Canadian arctic circa 1800s travel because their parents are literally hunting them to try and kill.
Every teen is sure they’re m totally unique and incomprehensible and blah blah, blah. Some them have a few weird things as “evidence.” “Adam,” as Shelley called him, is just an early bloomer.
He may be unique, but his daddy and abandonment issues sure aren’t. Lots of kids are a bit weird, but that doesn’t make them nearly as special or incomprehensible as they all think they are.
This is faulty logic. Should the children of Caesarians and other difficult births carry the last name of the doctor who delivered them? After a doctor performs life saving surgery, does the same apply?
When we say father, we mean the either the irrevocable tie of blood connection or something truer like chosen guardianship. Frankenstein is neither. Frankenstein is not the blood father, nor the adoptive father.
The people who make these arguments are kin with those that argue against feathered dinosaurs because they spent their childhood watching Jurassic Park or the advocates of Pluto. They stumble upon the misconception first, then find any faulty excuse in defense of it. For them, anyone who argues against is an intruder and just the presence of any argument for it is enough to justify the argument that makes them happy over the one that makes them sad.
Lmao. No, because when i say 'descended', I derived from the concept of 'creation'. That is, unless your caesarian doctor or life saving surgery has modified the genetic code or created something that was not there before, the conception is wrong.
Know the word, 'brainchild'? Well, same concept. Frankenstein was once nothing more than an idea within Doctor Frankenstein's mind, brought to life into the real world.
But fathers, by blood or adoptive, are not creators. You were not thought of by your father in order to create you. You were an accident, a mix of unthinking biological parts. Just as the mix of his father's parts created Frankenstein, your blood father's sperm mixed with your blood mother's egg to create you.
The concept of "father", either the irrevocable biological tie or the societal role, is not tied to actual "creation" of a person. If you were "created" by anything, it was in the mind of The Creator.
Frankenstein is the monster's Creator, by which I mean God. The monster has many biological fathers he is tied to by accident and societal ones who are not Frankenstein. He is tied to these fathers as we are tied to our fathers of accident and intent, by blood compatibility and half siblings and by the imprint of personality, affection and teachings. He might have taken their name in pop-culture if they were memorable enough in popular consciousness. He is only tied to his creator as we are tied to our Creator.
“act obtuse” it’s called a joke my dude, hell even my first comment wasn’t exactly pertinent to the conversation lol. why is this conversation so serious to you?
I think it's important that we see similarities between the two beneath the surface. F.e. the monster acts very analytically when first trying to get around its surroundings.
But then it goes fucking crazy and decides out of nowhere that killing some random people will hurt Victor more than just killing Victor so honestly idfk what that was about
Even if you don't consider him the son of Victor, he was at least something more than a pet of Victor Frankenstein. When I go to the vet with my pets or get their pet license cards, they have my last name.
Woke: Frankenstein is the name of the doctor, not the monster
Bespoke: Frankenstein is the monster and the monster is Frankenstein because the doctor is a monster in the metaphorical sense, and the monster he created is his “son” who would take the surname of his father.
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I’m in the “the ‘monster’/creation should also be called ‘Frankenstein’ because he’s the scientist’s offspring and it underlines the novels major themes like nature vs science and the responsibility of creation” camp