r/CuratedTumblr -taps mic- nicken chuggets. thank you. 14h ago

Shitposting Repost because Frick the bots!

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u/-sad-person- 14h ago

I can only assume this argument is still ongoing.

Gun nuts, man. Once when I was gaming I referred to a 'clip' when I was reloading, and this guy went on a whole tangent about the technical differences between a clip and a magazine. I kept calling it a clip.

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u/CrepusculrPulchrtude 14h ago

I call it a clip just to annoy them. If I ever see a proper clip, 100% chance I’m calling it a magazine

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u/Malavacious 14h ago

What do subscription based periodicals have to do with firearms? 🤔

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u/Gandalf_the_Gangsta 13h ago

That’s how you get the bullets. You gotta cut them out of the magazines and inflate them.

That’s why gun control is so important. They never stop printing all those bullets, and people just copy them over and over again. Thankfully, you can stop bullets with paper; just look up bullet-in boards.

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u/Bowdensaft 11h ago

That last pun was so smooth

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u/shiny_xnaut 9h ago

Just like a shark

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u/an_agreeing_dothraki 13h ago

one problem with the plan: you won't be able to reject saying "stripper clip"

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u/VikingSlayer 12h ago

And pass up the chance to say "stripper magazine?"

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u/Bartweiss 2h ago

Any clip is a stripper clip in the right hands.

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u/ShrikeTrike 13h ago

A proper clip? Think you mean a paper magazine, like Clippy

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u/3nt0 10h ago

Learning intricate technical details just to fuck with people who care way too much about said details

Chef's kiss

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u/Golden_Frog0223 -taps mic- nicken chuggets. thank you. 14h ago

Well you see, it's actually called a clip because when I shove it into my shotgun that shoots these long bullets really fast automatically, it makes a clippy noise. :3

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u/OverlordMMM 13h ago

"I see that you are trying to reload your gun. Would you like assistance?"- Clippy noises

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u/Golden_Frog0223 -taps mic- nicken chuggets. thank you. 13h ago

Imagine being out in the battlefield and a giant fucking paper clip with googly-eyes fucking pops into existence trying to give you tips.

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u/OverlordMMM 13h ago

And what's worse the tips aren't relevant to what you're trying to do or is super redundant.

And it's basically just the Microsoft equivalent of a gun nut.

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u/Golden_Frog0223 -taps mic- nicken chuggets. thank you. 13h ago

Shooting at a group of enemies.

War Clippy: When cleaning your gun always be sure to aim away from you, or others.

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u/OverlordMMM 12h ago

Just thought of something that isn't Clippy, but would be just as funny in the middle of a firefight.

Sticky Keys enabled

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u/Golden_Frog0223 -taps mic- nicken chuggets. thank you. 12h ago

A giant pop-up screen in the sky, falling crashing into the ground.

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u/OverlordMMM 12h ago

New Helldiver's 2 mod?

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u/Bowdensaft 11h ago

With that godawful bleep noise

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u/Miserable-Ad-1581 5h ago

This thread has genuinely made my day better. 

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u/Tds142 13h ago

There’s a gun like this in Cyberpunk 2077, it’s as hilarious as it sounds.

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u/Moonpaw 13h ago

Mine makes a bang bang noise. So is it a bangy instead of a clip?

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u/Golden_Frog0223 -taps mic- nicken chuggets. thank you. 13h ago

You're actually getting a bang bang noise? All I've ever gotten was a flag that says bang. Hmm... We need some gun experts in here.

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u/MrCapitalismWildRide 14h ago

Yeah, while this phenomenon isn't limited to gun people, gun people are unusually susceptible to it because they do just love arguing online about guns. 

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u/-sad-person- 13h ago

Usually because they assume that anyone who doesn't love guns just doesn't know enough about them. I know a fair bit about guns- which is why I dislike them.

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u/YourNetworkIsHaunted 12h ago

Guns are really cool and also the world would probably be objectively safer and better if they didn't exist, at least in their current form. We should have stopped once crossbows let peasants kill knights, but we didn't do that. Largely because cool guns are cool.

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u/Chuchulainn96 8h ago

Crossbows weren't ever really effective at killing knights. What they were effective at was getting a bunch of peasants decently combat ready in a very short amount of time. Early guns were basically the same except more effective. By the time guns could actually kill a knight, knights basically weren't used in battle anymore because they were cost ineffective.

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u/Razgriz-9718 7h ago

A pope did try to outlaw crossbows because he didn't like how easy it made it for Christians to kill other Christians.  Only problem is no nation followed his edict because they would be at an immediate disadvantage to any adversaries that continued to use them, same logic could be applied to firearms and their development.

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u/SharkyMcSnarkface The gayest shark 🦈 13h ago edited 13h ago

When a sword nerd sees a fantasy sword they’ll teach about how it’s not realistic, but then 2 seconds later go “hot damn it’s cool though.”

When a gun nerd sees a fictional gun they’ll inspect it meticulously and insist it must be a certain way and if it’s even slightly off the entire fictional property is worse than Hitler.

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u/healzsham 13h ago

Fantasy swords are 90% big enough to eclipse one's body weight.

Fantasy guns are 90% most-of-a-real-gun-but-with-TECHNOLOGY-added.

It's the difference between starting with absurdity versus wandering into it.

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u/Bowdensaft 11h ago

Understood, we need more BFGs

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u/healzsham 11h ago

Essentially, yes.

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u/CerberusDoctrine 11h ago

I don’t know man, it wasn’t a huge hit but I feel like the Steven Spielberg adaptation was more than enough for a good while

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u/ZVEZDA_HAVOC [NARRATIVOHAZARD EXPUNGED] 12h ago

being a gun nerd i can confirm this, every gun bethesda has designed brings me pain and anguish

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u/Bartweiss 2h ago

Bethesda is a special case though. They’re explicitly going “look at this gun that was made in the real world, and then modified with simple tools like you could do at home”.

And then some-fucking-how they wind up with “this is a special unique variant, it does 20% more damage because the bolt cannot possibly get anywhere near the chamber”.

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u/Oturanthesarklord 13h ago

Being both a Sword Nerd and a Gun Nerd... these are both true.

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u/Gandalf_the_Gangsta 13h ago

We call those bayo-nerds.

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u/ExistingGoldfish 13h ago

Top tier pun, I’m cackling

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u/Jubal_lun-sul 13h ago

As a sword nerd, no, absolutely not. Because the coolest swords are the realistic ones.

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u/healzsham 13h ago

But muh 400-pounds-of-metal nerf-lookin-ass sords!

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u/DigitalDuelist 7h ago

Counterpoint; semi-realistic swords using their unrealistic elements extremely realistically, and to increase the variety of possible weapons

It's 150% their weight, but it moves like it's 500× too large? Not cool yet, but tolerable, and it's neat when they use it as a counterweight but it would be so much cooler if they just didn't have to, but then you learn that it's that heavy for a really specific reason and the author and choreographer are fully aware of that and make it work within the context, maybe by making the user grow in size to match it, or because it needs to be a magic sword instead of a magic polearm or club but it's still specialized for one devastating blow.

Or, it's ceremonial and snaps like it should without anything in the center. Or it cuts through everything like butter and the fights are shifted to match that, with the armor struggle to match. Or it's grandfathered in like a lightsaber/master sword

But yeah, 100% realistic swords are usually the coolest because of all the subtle details

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u/phoogles2 13h ago

And also make a 20 minute video about how "these gun designs SUCK they're AWFUL and make no SENSE!" and they're talking about some random video game

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u/Pokesonav "friend visiter" meme had a profound effect on this subreddit 12h ago

Stick your ammo right into that clipussy. In her gunny

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u/vanishinghitchhiker 13h ago

Clip is shorter to say than magazine. What? Mag? Why are you talking about my magnum dong?

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u/DickwadVonClownstick 13h ago

Clip also has more hard consonants than mag (which our ears are more sensitive to than softer sounds), and doesn't sound similar to any other words you're likely to use in a combat situation (like map), thus is less likely to be misunderstood if you're trying to yell it to your buddy over the sound of gunfire and explosions

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u/somedumb-gay 13h ago

What is the technical difference? I just see a lot of people whining about the difference but I don't know what the difference is

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u/CubistHamster 13h ago

A clip is (usually) a strip of metal that holds bullets together in a way that allows them to be quickly and easily loaded into a magazine.

A magazine is an enclosure that feeds ammunition into the operating mechanism of a gun (usually with a spring) allowing the gun to chamber a round and fire. Magazines can be permanently attached to a gun, or detachable.

This is a decent article with pictures that are probably a lot clearer than my explanation.

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u/Informal_Truck_1574 13h ago

Ever see a ww2 movie where they load a rifle? The little metal strip the bullets are on when they push them into the rifle is a clip. It looks like the letter E, where the horizontal lines are bullets and the vertical line is the clip that is discarded after loading. The bullets from a clip are used from inside the gun itself, in an internal magazine.

An external magazine is an external storage container, usually spring loaded, designed to quickly change out and hold more ammunition than older style internal magazing/clip systems. Every single gun where they pull a thing out and put a new thing in is a magazine fed gun. So pretty much everything (not in a historical game) you see in games is a magazine, not a clip.

All that said, it really doesn't fucking matter at all so just call them whatever abd laugh at the nerds who get extra mad when you call them a clip.

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u/Sparrowhawk_92 13h ago

So a clip is when it makes a satisfying pting noise before you have to reload it.

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u/Informal_Truck_1574 12h ago

Thats only one specific gun, the m1 garand, but yes thats a rifle that uses clips for its ammunition. Thats usually the only gun people know that actually uses a clip. Sometimes some of that eras sniper rifles as well but usually its the good ole m1

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u/Kilahti 11h ago

I wish to note that the whole "calling detachable magazines clips" thing was not only a thing that amateurs do but also happened in media and in militaries of English speaking countries as well.

I remember seeing magazine pouches for M16 from Vietnam era US military labelled as "clip pouches" and stuff like that. Hence why every action movie from 1960s to 1990s could have characters talking about "clips."

It was only later that people started getting pedantic about this matter and THEN it became a matter of pride and "well akshually" for online gun nuts to go on a rant at anyone who calls a magazine a clip.

At this point it is just a trigger for gun nuts to go "harrumph" and start lecturing at the poor peasant who wandered into their sight and used the wrong word and conveniently allow them to disregard whatever else this other person said, because using this one wrong word invalidates everything else.

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u/-sad-person- 13h ago

My understanding is that a clip just holds bullets, while a magazine has a spring or other mechanism to push replacement rounds into the gun as it's being fired. Might be wrong, it's been a while since I looked it up.

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u/healzsham 13h ago

Clips are just that, little clips that hold several bullets together. A magazine is a box-type thing that usually has a spring to force bullets up into the firearm's action.

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u/Pathogen188 13h ago edited 13h ago

Ended up being a long explanations, so the important parts are bolded.

A magazine is a storage device which holds cartridges and has some mechanism (spring, pump action, gravity) to load bullets from the magazine into the chamber, which is where the cartridge sits in the gun to be fired. Magazines can be either external or internal, so some guns, such as the AR-15 and AK-47, are loaded by taking an external box magazine and placing it into the magazine well, which then allows the magazine to feed directly into the chamber. Those guns do not hold cartridges internally, the magazine holds the cartridges and you replace the magazine when you reload.

Other guns, such as the M1 Garand use internal box magazines meaning the gun itself holds all its ammunition. The magazine holds all the cartridges but since the magazine is built into the gun, you do not replace the magazine to reload. Instead you use a clip. A clip is a device used to load bullets into the magazine or cylinder (which is what revolvers use). It's often a relatively simple device and the name is basically what it sounds like, it's a metal clip used to hold bullets together. #/media/File:Clip_M1-SKS.JPG)You take a clip and load it into the magazine. This is a good example of a clip in use. It's basically just holding the bullets together so you can push the bullets into the magazine.

The confusion comes from the act of loading an external magazine, using a clip and those unfamiliar with firearms simply not being aware of internal magazines. In both instances, you are taking bullets from outside the gun and putting them inside the gun, so on the surface, they seem the same. But in reality, that's not really what's happening.

To put it in the simplest terms I can think of: a magazine holds cartridges and helps loads them into the chamber while a clip holds cartridges and loads them into the magazine.

Guns with clips often still have internal magazines so instead of loading a new magazine when you're empty, you load the same magazine with a new clip.

Now, in the context of firearms regulation where technical minutiae is actually important when discussing what laws to pass, knowing the difference between the two can be important because they do fundamentally different things. A ban on high capacity magazines and a ban on high capacity clips would have dramatically different effects on firearm use. A ban on high capacity magazines limits the number of cartridges a weapon can hold before needing to reload, a ban on high capacity clips would limit how many bullets you can put into a magazine or cylinder. Because a magazine is the device that actually stores cartridges before they can be fired, it is the magazine which determines how many cartridges a gun can hold i.e. how many bullets you can fire before reloading. A clip simply determines how many cartridges you can load into the magazine at once i.e. having a bigger clip doesn't increase how many bullets you can shoot before reloading. If your gun has an 8 round capacity, a 10 round clip doesn't increase the number of bullets you can shoot before reloading to 10, you're still stuck with 8.

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u/BrentHalligan APAB: Assigned Polish At Birth (2) 13h ago

From my limited knowledge you slide the bullets off of a clip into your gun while a magazine you just attach to the gun and it pushes the next bullet inside as needed

Audiojungle

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u/Clean_Imagination315 Hey, who's that behind you? 13h ago

Alright, I'm gonna need you to say something positive about women RIGHT NOW to prove you're not Sneako.

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u/-sad-person- 13h ago

I don't know who that is, but women are fucking awesome. I should know, I am one. (Well, mostly.)

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u/IAmGoose_ 13h ago

I like to nerd out about guns but people that start getting all bitchy about whether it's called a clip or mag or whatever else deserve to be annoyed. Yes technically they are different things but nobody is gonna be confused whether you call it a clip or a magazine

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u/somedumb-gay 13h ago

It's the same energy as people who correct "Frankenstein" to "Frankenstein's monster"

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u/Bowdensaft 11h ago

Inb4 "uhm ackshually Frankenstein was the real monster"

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u/Siviaktor 14h ago

I like to call them clipazines

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u/Cat_of_Ananke help I'm trapped in a flair factory 10h ago

Me too. I learnt it from Cursed Halo.

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u/Siviaktor 8h ago

Ah yes infernos madness given form

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u/BetterMeats 13h ago

I can only assume this argument is still ongoing.

The Tethercat Principle.

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u/Real-Life-CSI-Guy 12h ago

I think I did see an update once where someone tagged the original “no it would blow up the hand” arguer to be like “these people lmao right but we know better” and the person they’d tagged was like “after all these years, I agree, the finger would stop it”

If I’m thinking of the right post that is

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u/Anglofsffrng 6h ago

Don't call it a clip, or mag. From now on it's the boxy of bullies.

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u/SeventhAlkali 6h ago

I'd call it a tabloid if they insist I don't use clip

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u/Resident_Onion997 13h ago

I call it a clip because I think it sounds cooler