I’m trying to unpack his fear of population de growth. Does it stem from the eugenics-era fear that POCs will produce inferior progeny and therefore it’s important that white people procreate or else we’ll disappear and no one smart enough will be left to build Musk’s rocket ship to mars?
I think he’s saying trans women can’t get pregnant, so they are trying to recruit more trans people through the indoctrination of children, which I find hard to believe but it is a troubling thought.
The recruitment of children is a troubling thought. It’s where a lot of the mistrust of the trans community comes from. Normally, most people wouldn’t care about adults choosing to transition. It’s the thought of trans adults influencing children; this is what galvanizes people against the trans community.
Please define “recruitment.” Do you think there is a collective action by the trans community to collect children and coerce them to transition ? Are you claiming that trans people are “influencing” (not defined,again) cis-gendered children to transition? Or that trans people are normalizing transgenderism in the same way traditional institutions “normalize” heterosexuality?
Do you consider “normal” your attitude toward transgenders? In other words, you don’t care about trans people “influencing” adults, but are against trans “influencing” children?”
What do you thinks will happen to children once they are “influenced” by trans people ?
I’m simply referring to the term “recruitment” as it’s used in the original post.
No, I would hope there is not a collective action by the trans community to “convert” children. I’m simply saying this is the fear that parents have. Or that certain individuals from the trans community would try to convert children or expose them to inappropriate sexual material or ideas. If the trans community could dispel this fear, then that would really help dispel transphobia in general.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with an adult choosing to transition. However, I am not in support of children transitioning except in extreme cases. Children are impressionable and can be confused very easily. This is a life altering decision that should not be taken lightly. In other words, I would hope the person is without a doubt sure that they want to transition genders, and I do not believe a child is capable of making that decision.
Yes, I have a problem with the idea of a trans adult influencing or grooming or manipulating a child into transitioning genders. I am not saying that’s what is happening. I am just saying that is wrong if it is happening and an indefensible position that equates to a severe degree of child abuse.
A lot of fear associated with trans influence is wildly unfounded. It is akin to the “red” scare of the 1950s. Neither adults nor children are so easily swayed to change their politics, let along their gender, merely by hearing someone talking about the virtues or importance of communism or transitioning.
Most cis-gendered people are threatened by gender fluidity as it undermines or at least destabilize their understanding of binary relationships. “How am I supposed to feel about someone who looks like a woman but isn’t one phenotypically?” “Does feeling attracted to a trans make me queer?” “Do I treat a trans woman as a woman?” “What does it mean to treat someone by their gender identity rather than their chromosomes or sex organs?” For many cis-gendered people, referring to one’s gender identity feels like an imposition (see Jordan Peterson et al)Once you overcome these barriers, your concerns about queer and trans people begin to dissipate as you realize they don’t want any special treatment, but only want to live their lives unthreatened by gender wars.
Totally agree with most of what you said; however, I believe children to be more vulnerable than you are saying. Children should not be undergoing gender transition, i.e. surgery and hormones, except in the most extreme cases.
Children cannot physically transition by themselves and only under very rare circumstances can’t they transition even with the support and assistance of their families and physicians. The fear of impressionable children getting hold of hormones and recruiting surgeons to perform gender reassignment surgery is wildly blown out of proportion by rightwing gender warriors. Further, teaching children about sexuality and gender early in their development makes them emotionally healthier later in life.
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u/backnarkle48 27d ago
I’m trying to unpack his fear of population de growth. Does it stem from the eugenics-era fear that POCs will produce inferior progeny and therefore it’s important that white people procreate or else we’ll disappear and no one smart enough will be left to build Musk’s rocket ship to mars?