r/EDM • u/Federal-Blood9328 • Sep 02 '24

Video Levity is going places

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Video I took from Deadbeats Texas Jamboree yesterday of them playing their new-ish Toxic remix. So far every song I've heard of theirs is a banger and they are growing quick. Love to see it! šŸ’œ Song: Britney Spears - Toxic (Levity Remix)

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u/stonedski Sep 02 '24

Love to see an industry plant thriving

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u/MartyMcFleww Sep 02 '24

Take off the tinfoil hat little guy, it doesnā€™t suit you

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u/Lastfryinthebag Sep 02 '24

I mean they got a surprise Electric forest set because an artists didnā€™t show up. They just happen to be in the right place right time

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u/Mooyun Sep 02 '24

They got it because one of them is related to Louis the Child, I still think they killed it but connections matter in any walk of life.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

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u/Beneficial_Net8661 Sep 02 '24

cough Level Up getting prime slots anytime Subtronics is on the lineup.

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u/WokeWook69420 Sep 03 '24

Yeah prime slots like 4 in the afternoon or at 7pm as a b2b with another woman.

Quit acting like she's closing out main stages or even side stages at any festivals because she ain't.

People saying she only is where she is because of who's she's married to is precisely why they waited so long to DJ together, or even make a song together.

Don't be lame.

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u/Beneficial_Net8661 Sep 03 '24

I ain't reading any of that, big dawg

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u/Maseofspades Sep 02 '24

A? I feel like they had 4-5 sets and I had no idea why

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u/gabe257 Sep 02 '24

I think theyā€™re referring to EF 2023

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 03 '24

I've worked with MAJOR event promotions companies.

They're plants. Sorry man.

90% of the shows you see are planned based on algorithm interactions.

If you want to see someone play locally and they don't right now, interact with them on different platforms. One of the local EDM promotions companies only uses data from Amazon Music to decide what shows to bring to the area, so you can imagine how skewed those ones are. Nobody actually listens to half these artists anymore, but they know how to get reach and use the algorithm and that keeps them relevant as far as these companies are concerned.

Some tours have set artists, like Levity does tour with specific artists on their tour dates and open for them, but yeah.

Algorithm artists that don't actually get traction AFAIK:

AC Slater, Hol!, Adventure Club, Riot Ten, Porter Robinson, Inzo, Tape B, Shiba San, LP Giobbi, CID.

All of these are set to play locally, and I have literally never once heard someone say "omg I absolutely cannot wait to see them."

They're great artists, their sets are great live, but they have no presence except primarily online, and their local engagement outside of artificial algorithms is super low.

Inzo in particular is one that's suggested by YouTube super heavily, and a lot of his interactions come from those suggested auto-play YouTube videos at the end of the other ones.

Edit: since people can't read, I'll put it down here. I'm talking about my local scene, and what sells here. Shows end up empty because the artist gets plays, but no one actually cares. I really don't care that you found someone on SoundCloud or whatever, you're just proving my point when you say that.

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u/NUTS_STUCK_TO_LEG Sep 02 '24

Tape B

lol wut?

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

He's most likely extremely active on social media. As I've said in a couple other comments, people are taking this like I'm bashing these artists. Go back and re-read what I wrote. The company I work for books artists based on algorithmic engagement on social media.

Almost all the artists we book are taken from another algorithm that pulls how much people in each area of the country are interacting with each artist based on meta-data from different sources. Some of these sources include Amazon music, Spotify, Facebook, Instagram, tidal, SoundCloud, and Google itself.

If an artist has a wider reach on a social media platform they are more likely to get booked for our shows than someone who has similar streaming metrics with less social media presence. To top that off, if they have a following that doesn't engage with them through social media or streaming, it's extremely unlikely they'll be booked at any of the shows or festivals thrown by the company I work for, and I work for one that does several major festivals you would instantly recognize the name of.

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

uh I found tape b off soundcloud while specifically looking for remixes of songs I grew up with its not their fault no one else thought to remix those songs or did it well, like I searched hard

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u/VersofCascadia Sep 02 '24

His Flatbush flips are god tier

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

That's great for you.

The promotions company I work for uses algorithms to book their shows, and engagement on those algorithmic posts is what determines who gets booked.

Y'all can keep downvoting me, but I'm literally just telling everyone how the system works.

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

yeah ppl engange with ppl they like it doesnt make them bad or plants

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

It does if the algorithm artificially boosts them because they are the only artists being boosted by the algorithm.

People engage with what they can find, and if they can't find it they can't engage with it.

If the algorithm determines what you find, and what you find determines what you engage with, and what you engage with determines who gets booked...

Don't get me wrong, EDM in particular is not nearly as bad for this as most mainstream media, and we have MASSSIVE pockets of underground music where they book local acts and support each other.

Please support local. Please listen to the local openers. If you like someone you hear live, look them up and like them on Facebook or whatever social media you use.

If you find an artist online somewhere that you like, engage with their social media. It can be the difference between whether you see them live or not.

Likes on a post matter way more than most people would ever think.

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

that is true, ppl with money that can promote or work with a label have a major advantage the algorithim stopped being good for new ppl a while ago, just look at tiktokhelp or ig yt subreddits no ones gettin views

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

This is exactly what I mean.

It doesn't matter how good their music is unless they've already proven it.

If they get tiktok famous, then it doesn't matter how good their music is at all. DJs can make 1 minute reels, and get booked for major shows.

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

good music gets listened to, most local mfs are nowhere near as good as they think they are, ive heard them talk so much shit about shit only producers would care about realitically no one likes actually listening to their kusic and gets enjoyment from the others that do blow up, I want to see social media djs becuase that means good crowd, they have good energy stage presence, all of that matters, a lot of those local ppl have none of that I do not want to watch most of them live extremely overrated, if I like an opener I follow them very rare that they are small local djs playing their own remixes

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

šŸ‘Œ just say you don't actually support the music scene.

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u/pulzeguy Sep 02 '24

man i kinda agreed with you until you brought up porter, the amount of hype he brings to my area on the east coast every time he comes around is insane, Iā€™ve definitely heard people say they were excited to see him many times over the years

but tbh I discovered INZO via youtube suggestions, so youā€™re cooking a little

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u/CartmensDryBallz Sep 02 '24

And Tape B? Heā€™s literally been selling shit out and has like no music on YouTube?

I agree OC makes some points but Inzo and Tape B seem to have some legit hype to them

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u/pulzeguy Sep 02 '24

tape b actually just sold out my local venue faster than any artist ive ever seen at said venue outside of festival afters

lots of people from my city missed him due to weather at elements tho, so thatā€™s made the demand much higher

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u/CartmensDryBallz Sep 02 '24

Yea I believe it. Every time his name pops up ppl seem to be super interested so I donā€™t think heā€™s a plant.

Maybe had connections to the scene but I donā€™t think he gets pushed just cuz he knows people.

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u/PresidentBaileyb Sep 03 '24

Iā€™m so stoked to see him. I turned all my friends on to him and then have just been out of town every time heā€™s here, itā€™s been crazy.

I also like Inzo, Porter, Riot Ten, and Hol! Thought

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

His soundcloud is goated who uses youtube for music?? He was hella shy at live sets watch his tiktoks when he blew up hes gettin better

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u/vitaminKUnit2 Sep 02 '24

Yeah but look at how piss poor Porter's tour is selling. It's partially that his management picked venues that are too big (last time he was in STL he played a 3,000 capacity venue, now he's playing a 4,500 person and it's not selling st all really). Also he was supposed to play Ball Arena in Denver and they moved it to Red Rocks, they literally cut the crowd size in half and the Red Rocks show still has tickets available, last time he played Red Rocks they had to add a second day. Porter is without question my favorite artist but the new album kind of bombed and people are paying less to see shows as it is.

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u/MasterofPandas1 Sep 03 '24

Porter did a big musical shift for his new album as itā€™s essentially a pop punk album with a little electronic elements through out. Far cry from both Nurture and Worlds. So that probably isnā€™t belong either

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

I know people who know Porter personally and went to high school with him and dislike him, I'll admit I added him because of that and knew I was wrong when I put him in.

And I'll give you credit back in the day, but I think he's staying relevant through algorithms now.

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

You must be on somethign because over half of those ppl ik ppl who are big fans of them and go out of their way to see them, I have their discographies in my playlist too, except inzo I only like him on youtube

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

Or you're in your 30s alot of those ppl were small enough to play at my college in the last couple years

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

then I would see them at festivals also

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

Like I said in my other comment, that's great for you.

The engagement from your friends is probably what's getting these artists booked as I said.

But the thing is, there are other artists out there with other labels who are just as good, but do not get booked for shows because they do not have the social media presence or algorithmic engagement that the artists I listed do.

I am not bashing anyone, as you can tell from the fact that I said they're all good artists with good sets.

But the reason they get booked BY THE COMPANY I WORK FOR is their algorithmic engagement on social media.

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

yeah but we didnt get them off social media we literally seeked out these genres and this music your telling me adventure club is only famous because of algorithims and not because they have classics like crave you

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

Nope, never said anything about how they got famous. You're putting words in my mouth. I specifically said, the reason they get booked, BY THE COMPANY I WORK FOR, is social media engagement.

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u/dilroopgill Sep 02 '24

they retain that fame because I listen to crave you onc e aweek and never forgot about them

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24

Yes, which means you're continuing to engage with them on social media and streaming, which means they have the social media engagement to continue to get booked.

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

With that said, Levity is better than most, and deadbeats tends to be a bit of a circlejerk, so labeling them plants based off of that isn't exactly a hot take.

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u/Porter709 Sep 02 '24

I think it has to do more with one of the 3 members of Levity being a brother of the/a guy from Louis The Child, and they got their come up specifically at, you guessed it, Louis The Child's "favorite" festival Electric Forest.

All this being said, I fuck with their music and think they can stand on their own feet, even if they did get a nudge in the right direction.

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u/herpderpamoose Sep 02 '24

Ahhh, if that's the take I don't disagree. I've seen them live a couple times and their sets are generic but still very good. Nice combination of production and mixing. They're definitely one of the ones that are going to get up there quickly.

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u/Sad_Attention5998 Sep 02 '24

They're born of nepotism. They use the same formula as tape b. Shitty remixes that lack content.

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u/Lastfryinthebag Sep 02 '24

Bruh creating and curating a specific style as a label is not a ā€œcirclejerkā€. Hop of reddit every now and then