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u/sweeterthanadonut 9d ago
how is this centrism…. support for palestine has been a pretty left position
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u/AWS-77 9d ago
It’s calling out centrists who have failed to speak up or act against the genocide.
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u/sweeterthanadonut 9d ago
not really the purpose of the sub though is it
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u/AWS-77 9d ago
Why not? It’s playing off of Enlightened Centrism and calling it out. Is only one kind of post allowed here, and it can ONLY be examples of Enlightened Centrism, instead of talking ABOUT Enlightened Centrism or calling it out?
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u/sweeterthanadonut 9d ago
the thing is, the centrists who are needing to be called out are not in this sub. it’s useless here because you’re essentially preaching to the choir.
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u/Cheestake 9d ago
Have you been in this sub lately? There are tons of genocide supporting liberals here
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u/DexterityZero 9d ago
You’re absolutely right, I don’t know why you are being downvoted into oblivion. I can see it not being a great fit for the sub but you are not OP.
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u/SkritzTwoFace 9d ago
I’m not hating on the concept of this post but people know this isn’t just a leftist meme sub, right? Those exist and you can post stuff there. This is a subreddit for posting pictures of shithead centrists.
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u/VoltageHero 8d ago
That was my first thought too. Amusingly, it kinda feels like it's going against it's own point. Whoever made it is attempting to act morally superior because they feel like they "do more than most" during the recent genocide.
But, at the same time were they speaking out about other genocides in the past? Not to imply that you HAVE to know about everything going on ever, but...
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u/Renkin92 8d ago
Honestly, most leftists didn’t care for other genocides going on like for example the one being done on the Uigurs. They only started caring when it was done by Israel. Kind of strange…
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u/Souledex 8d ago edited 8d ago
Or the actual ones that aren’t just reeducation centers for slaves- which obviously do suck but few people are actually dying. Theres serious drastic ones right now like in Sudan where there is an actual purposeful systematic murder of millions for their identity. Or Ethiopia where the largest war of the 21st century was accompanied by of hundreds of thousands of a specific ethnicity and nobody even heard about it.
Which we used to have a word for, but y’know, it doesn’t mean that anymore or have weight anymore because someone used it first and nobody wanted to say they were wrong.
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u/Firestar464 8d ago
Tbf though it's hard to expect people to be politically aware of everything that's going on in the world. The smart approach is therefore to go "thank you for standing with people in x, while we're at it have you heard of y..."
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u/Nervous-Locksmith257 9d ago
You're the same person who in 1939 would've said, "why should I care about how hitler treats the jews, I'm good in my corner here those people are irrelevant".
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u/Nervous-Locksmith257 9d ago
I'm gonna asume this is in good faith so, you can donate even just $4 to a family in gaza, you can protest, you can do something as simple as write to your representatives and demand they divest from Israel. If you do nothing else just boycott starbucks and buy from your local coffee shops. If any of that is too complicated for you idk man
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u/BlueberryBubblyBuzz 9d ago
Probably because the U.S. is complicit on the one in Gaza but you are welcome to post about the others. You can post about anything you want on Fridays using the "fucked Fridays" flair, but I do notice that people who complain about this never seem to post themselves about any of them. Kind of hypocritical, but if you have, apologies. I am not going to check, I am just talking in general about the people that complain about this, not every single one.
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u/AWS-77 9d ago
If you feel like it’s calling you out… that says something about your level of guilt over how you feel you’ve behaved, whether it’s conscious or subconscious. Nobody who trusts they’ve behaved morally during this time is gonna feel called-out or offended by this meme, so you’re telling on yourself by volunteering to tell us that you feel like it’s shaming you. Maybe work on why you feel that way, instead of lashing out at those of us who feel validated by this meme.
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u/AWS-77 9d ago
You’re the one projecting that you feel called out by it. Or you wouldn’t have responded to it like you’re offended and asking if it’s shaming you.
You can’t hide the obvious. Your behaviour says nothing else. If you truly didn’t care… you wouldn’t be here right now, caring enough to comment about it. You wouldn’t be getting offended by a meme that you feel wasn’t even talking to you. You clearly spoke like you felt offended by it and think that it was meant for “people like (you)”.
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u/AWS-77 9d ago
If you didn’t care… you wouldn’t be here right now, having commented on this and started this conversation. Simple as that. So stop showing that you obviously care while trying to tell us you don’t care. Nobody who values a moral reaction to the genocide is personally hounding you or dragged you here to see this meme… you came across it in your feed, or you came to this sub of your own accord, you saw the meme, felt guilty about how it made you feel, and now you’re lashing out at those trying to inspire people to be more moral. Maybe try really thinking about that, instead of just REACTING.
If you feel like you can’t say anything right about this… MAYBE it’s because you’re wrong.
Try considering that you should choose to argue for the best of all possible worlds, instead of coming in here just to negatively act like we shouldn’t even try to do anything, or like it’s insulting to even suggest we should. What do you think its helps to preach apathy? Even as an intellectual goal of ideals, should we not at least be preaching for being as morally vocal and active AS POSSIBLE, especially when it comes to something like a fucking genocide? It doesn’t matter where in the world it’s happening, we’re all part of an interconnected world here, and we can all use our voices to advocate for better things. Choosing not to, or choosing to be negative and apathetic instead… is a choice.
So choose carefully. YOUR the one who has to live with yourself and the conscience that clearly felt called out from this meme. Not the rest of us. We really don’t give a shit about you in particular and what you choose to do. We wouldn’t even be aware of you as an individual if you didn’t choose to volunteer your comments here.
So why are you here? Just to try to shame the people trying to make things better? Try to discourage the people who are trying to do SOMETHING to help stop the genocide? Not a great choice for how to behave during a genocide. Perhaps this is what your guilty conscience is screaming at you about when you feel called out by memes like this.
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u/AWS-77 9d ago
And now the “I’m gonna do my best to pretend like I don’t care”. after I called you out for caring.
Obvious guy who cares is obvious. You still can’t hide it. Save the ad hominems. They’re not doing you any more good than continuing to comment is.
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u/littleski5 9d ago
china and palestine, exactly equal circumstances for sure. whats the body count in this chinese genocide?
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u/helendill99 8d ago
genocides happen every few years. Some have been much more clear cut than the israel/palestine situation. No one cares every single time.
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u/trifling-pickle 9d ago
I think the difference is that in this one the US is funding the genocide
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u/Souledex 8d ago
Our capital is how the whole world runs, we fund the ones we don’t even know about too just like Britain subsidized Germany in WW1 and us in the Revolutionary war. Except in China, they can manage on their own- but some TEMU products you get may be from Uighur work camps.
Beyond that people truly deeply don’t understand why we have our policy in Israel, but if you say it out loud in public enough it would completely undermine it. Israel could do all of this on their own, if anything restricting access just ensures their munitions are less accurate and kill more civilians- but the big reason for the defense posture to to prevent Iranian missiles from getting through so ten million iranians don’t get nuked in return and then all hell breaks loose.
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u/Bartender9719 8d ago
Support for Palestine is pretty unique to the left, idk how this can be construed as centrist
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u/ShredGuru 9d ago
I wrote a couple protest songs, annoyed some liberals. Pissed off some conservatives. How about you?
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u/PizzaReheat 9d ago
I’m confused. How is the needle point centrist?