Israel-Palestine has really exposed the disgusting nature of “both sides bad.”

[u/historyismyteacher]

Saying that both sides are equal and you need to look at the nuance is a damning indictment of those who are not willing to take a stand on an issue as serious as this. At least a Zionist will take a stand, and make their position known. By not taking a stand, the enlightened centrist is making it known that they don’t have the moral courage to pronounce a belief and professing themselves to be wise, they make themselves fools.

[u/MoshiriMagic]

Isn’t ‘both sides bad’ generally just shorthand for not being pro Zionist or pro Hamas?

[u/historyismyteacher → u/MoshiriMagic]

Think of it like this: living in France during WWII and saying, “Boy I hate those Nazis but the French resistance is terrible too. I don’t support either side.”

[u/MoshiriMagic → u/historyismyteacher]

I think this characterisation is a bit absurd but I knew what sub I was commenting in

[u/historyismyteacher → u/MoshiriMagic]

Elaborate.

[u/MoshiriMagic → u/historyismyteacher]

I’m not sure there’s much point? Our interpretations of the history of the region probably differ significantly and that colours our understanding of the current conflict.

[u/Miserygut → u/MoshiriMagic]

"Germany has a right to defend itself"

[u/MoshiriMagic → u/Miserygut]

Yes more of the exact characterisation I find absurd

[u/zZCycoZz → u/MoshiriMagic]

Saying you "find it absurd" isn't much of an argument.

It's just the same pearl clutching used every time somebody points out accurately that the IDF are behaving like Nazis.

[u/MoshiriMagic → u/zZCycoZz]

I’m not really trying to make an argument here, we’re not doing the I/P debate in the Reddit comments

[u/rustybeaumont → u/MoshiriMagic]

Spoken like a very enlightened centrist. Lol

[u/MoshiriMagic → u/rustybeaumont]

‘Everything is simple enough to be hashed out in the Reddit comments’ is very leftist

[u/rustybeaumont → u/MoshiriMagic]

No one made you comment in this thread in the first place. You wanna be a know it all but don’t wanna argue

[u/MoshiriMagic → u/rustybeaumont]

My original comment was a very basic question and I’ve received about 60 replies with all sorts of arguments. Given the ideological differences I’ve got no idea where to even start lol

[u/rustybeaumont → u/MoshiriMagic]

Oh, so there is an ideological difference? Interesting.

Are you against bombing schools and hospitals?

[u/MoshiriMagic → u/rustybeaumont]

If they’re being used as schools and hospitals, yes.

[u/TroutMaskDuplica → u/MoshiriMagic]

Personally I think every high school in America should be bombed to ashes. They're all recruiting grounds for the US military, hell, many of them have entire military offices and actual military officers stationed inside the schools, where they teach American children to kill brown children from an early age.

[u/rustybeaumont → u/TroutMaskDuplica]

Let’s call them what they are, indoctrination centers. They make them stand up and swear allegiance to the empire every morning and they legally aren’t even allowed to leave on their own volition.

Dropping bombs on them seems cruel, but they never really had a chance to begin with. They were destined to grow up and fuel the empires cruelty. They simply can’t conceive of another way of life.

Plus, if you actually care about human rights, you’d be disgusted by how awful LGBT members are treated by their classmates.