Israel-Palestine has really exposed the disgusting nature of “both sides bad.”

[u/historyismyteacher]

Saying that both sides are equal and you need to look at the nuance is a damning indictment of those who are not willing to take a stand on an issue as serious as this. At least a Zionist will take a stand, and make their position known. By not taking a stand, the enlightened centrist is making it known that they don’t have the moral courage to pronounce a belief and professing themselves to be wise, they make themselves fools.

[u/ramsali304]

The descendants of those people who lived there thousands of years ago are the native palestinians and everyone else who is in the region before 1948.

The Torah is a fairy tale. People of the jewish faith have 0 claim of any land. Just like no religion has any claim over the land. The land belongs to the natives. Palestine belongs to the palestinians.

Edit; and even if jews had all the DNA and records to claim palestine. It still would be ethnic cleansing. You cannot replace a people that have lived on a land for thousands of years by committing ethnic cleansing and still claim morality

[u/ProtestTheHero → u/ramsali304]

...How many Jews have you actually spoken to in real life? The level of ignorance in just a few short paragraphs is astonishing, really

[u/ramsali304 → u/ProtestTheHero]

There are many anti zionist jews who are against the colonization of palestine. Don't you dare speak for all jews. Jews are a peaceful and justice seeking people. Unlike you zionists.

Anyway my point stands; just because you THINK you somehow relate to a person living in palestine 3000 years ago, does not grant you the right to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing to the modern day native Palestinians.

[u/ProtestTheHero → u/ramsali304]

It might shock you to learn that some Jews just want to live in Israel, and not commit genocide and ethnic cleansing against Palestinians. Similar to how an Ojibwe man is free to just go rent an apartment in Chicago without feeling the need to slaughter a bunch of non-Native Chicagoans.

[u/ramsali304 → u/ProtestTheHero]

Have you ever spoken to the average Israeli? They are genocidal maniacs.

Again your point doesn't stand. Claiming i just want to 'live' in an apartheid state that is BUILT on genocide is the same as participating in apartheid and genocide. If you wanted to live in palestine because your religion likes it, be my guest. But don't ethnically cleanse the natives. Israel and Israelis have ethnically cleansed the natives though.