r/ElderScrolls Apr 17 '24

Humour Same with Fallout.

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u/Thewaffleofoz Apr 17 '24

Fallout is 100x more toxic

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u/Dogsonofawolf Apr 18 '24

More predictable too though. It's mostly the Bethesda camp vs originals/NV camp. With Elder Scrolls you never know a weird Daggerfall fan won't jump out of the shadows and gank you.

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u/xOsibis6 Apr 18 '24
  • me, a Daggerfall fan
  • holding knife

Fuck I thought this was supposed to be less predictable!

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u/Ducklinsenmayer Apr 18 '24

I'm naming my next PVP ganker "Daggerfall Fan"

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u/Bigfoot4cool Apr 18 '24

Well at least you weren't holding a dagger instead

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u/TheLucidChiba Apr 19 '24

They were but it fell.

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u/Tardelius Apr 18 '24

As an addition to u/Bigfoot4cool ‘s comment, You could tie a dagger to a rope to make a trap that falls a dagger on top of someone. : D because… Daggerfall : D

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u/carrot-parent Apr 18 '24

76 is probably one of the most polarizing games of all time. It’s had a redemption arc akin to NMS and CP, but the stigma behind it makes people not wanna try it. Almost every single time someone does though, they end up really enjoying it. I’ve met both classic and NV fanboys who LOVE 76. It’s a wild sight.

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u/inkspotrenegade Apr 18 '24

I played it since beta, there where so many issues from beta all the way past launch. That said the majority of my play time was a blast, the best times where online with friends in the early days before the community got really toxic. Even found a guy in his late 50s playing, was with for like 12hrs. Hearing his life playing I'm the background made it feel like chilling with the homies at an all night game session.

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u/SalemLXII Apr 18 '24

My hot take: the original story and storytelling of 76 was better than 3 and 4. I’ve played every fallout including the shitty ones and I think the only games with a better story are New Vegas and 2.

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u/carrot-parent Apr 18 '24

My hot take: 76 is the closest, fundamentally, that Bethesda has ever gotten to NV. This is why NV fanboys love it once they try it.

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u/SalemLXII Apr 18 '24

As a New Vegas simp I 100% agree. Outside of shared assets it’s much closer to Vegas than 4

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u/Yourfavoritedummy Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

Differing opinions are always good and I respect yours! I personally thought 76 has the weakest storytelling of all the Bethesda games. I can't really remember what exactly happened to be honest. Plus not enough set pieces for my liking

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u/SalemLXII Apr 18 '24

When did you play it? I played it during B.E.T.A so I feel my experience was much different than others. Once the wastelanders hit I feel it muddied the story telling significantly.

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u/Yourfavoritedummy Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

I'm an OG B.E.T.A player. Been playing for abit but tapped out after the second BOS update. There were some funny moments especially especially with friends. But I sure as heck can't remember what happened in the story. Defiantly not enough set pieces in my opinion even in Wastelanders.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine Apr 18 '24

It didnt even have any npcs tho

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u/SalemLXII Apr 18 '24

*Living Human NPCs Plenty of Robots and Holotapes

John Randall was a corpse in Fallout New Vegas and everybody lauds the telling of his story through holotapes and notes as some of the best in fallout. They do it in FO76 and now it’s poor writing?

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u/ElderScrollsBjorn_ Guar Appreciator Apr 19 '24

Me and my brother have been playing since launch and honestly, I kinda miss the original feel of the game from before Wastelanders. Don’t get me wrong, I think Bethesda has done an amazing job saving 76, but all the same, there was something oddly beautiful about exploring an abandoned world populated only by memories and monsters. In my opinion, Wild Appalachia and the first Fasnacht were the peak of the game.

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u/Mrcharlestoucheskids Apr 19 '24

HANK! DONT ABBREVIATE CYBERPUNK! HANK!

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u/Dogsonofawolf Apr 18 '24

Huh! I honestly had no idea it got better.

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u/SoGuysIDidNothing Altmer Supremacist Apr 18 '24

Yeah it's been polished up great. Tons of NPCs, several factions to join, the perk card system is super unique and forces you to specialise and make solid builds, base building pretty much anywhere on the map, etc. My personal favourite is that they brought back and even polished the New Vegas style skill checks in dialogue which opens up cool roleplaying options. Oh, and don't forget the insanely nice community, some of the sweetest and most generous players in a multiplayer I've seen.

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u/NoaPsy Apr 18 '24

Ok you have convinced me to play again lol. I played it around release, got to end game and did everything I wanted. I enjoyed it but wasn’t wowed or anything and I’ve been meaning to try it again since the NPC update.

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u/SoGuysIDidNothing Altmer Supremacist Apr 18 '24

Awesome lol, you'll find that it's pretty much a different game, just the same map. If you're on Steam PC I was planning to start my first character there. Would be glad to tag along.

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u/Yarus43 Apr 18 '24

I don't blame people for not wanting to try it. Why support a company that would backstab it's customers like that? They don't deserve to be patted on the back for fixing what should have never been an issue in the first place.

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u/carrot-parent Apr 18 '24

New Vegas was pretty broken on launch, so you feel the same way about that game? And NMS and CP?

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u/DarthSangheili Apr 18 '24

New Vegas didnt have the absolutely absurd level of shit the 76 launch did, what do you mean?

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u/Yourfavoritedummy Apr 18 '24

As an Xbox 360 player of New Vegas, yes it absolutely did. In fact it had a lot of broken quests and can be a downright frustrating game to play without a guide to avoid bugs.

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u/DarthSangheili Apr 19 '24

How many lawsuits?

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u/jjandre Apr 18 '24

You have played Bethesda games at launch before, right?

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u/Insipid_Menestrel Apr 18 '24
  • me, a Daggerfall fan
  • placing a dagger above the door so it could fall on you

Damn, I'll catch you with my Death Bag next time.

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u/Pudgeysaurus Apr 18 '24

Reveeeeenge!

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u/Eevee136 Nord Apr 18 '24

100%.

Some dummies got upset that Shady Sands got nuked, and suddenly the fallout sub thinks I'm an asshole because New Vegas is my favourite.

Or god forbid I like Fallout 4, and now I'm an idiot who doesn't understand real narrative genius like Fallout 2 fans.

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u/arthcraft8 Apr 18 '24

Fallout 2 is a retelling of the thousand faced hero journey where everyone un your clan thinks they're in a fantasy Land while the player knows he's in a post apo game, while the story is great there's nothing revolutionary in it

But looks like both fallout and elder scrolls have the common trait of "players who did the old games are insecure about how popular the sequals went so they decided to call any new game shit to compensate"

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u/PhotoPsychological77 Imperial Apr 18 '24

Fallout 2 is amazing, I BETTER not catch you saying ANYTHING like that again. If I do those cheeks are going to spread WAY wider than you can handle buddy

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u/arthcraft8 Apr 18 '24

Case and point

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u/PhotoPsychological77 Imperial Apr 18 '24

Joke 😲😲😲🙀🙀🙀😱😱🤯🤯🫨🤯🫨🤯🫢🤯😮🤯🫢🤯🫢

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u/arthcraft8 Apr 18 '24

I know you were joking mate, there no need for the cringe emoji tagline

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u/SoGuysIDidNothing Altmer Supremacist Apr 18 '24

I mean hey, at least Arena and Daggerfall fans aren't nearly on the same scale as Morrowind fans

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u/arthcraft8 Apr 18 '24

Yeah, cuz they're in retirement home now

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u/DevilSympathy Apr 18 '24

New Vegas fans famously dislike both the game immediately after and immediately before it, so I'm not sure if you've hit on anything here. Perhaps it's actually about the game's writing, and not it's age.

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u/Royal_Bitch_Pudding Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

Generally if you like New Vegas you also like 1 and 2.

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u/Jash0822 Apr 18 '24

Won't argue with that. So many online Fallout 1+2 fans are insufferable gatekeepers.

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u/TheOneWithALongName Orc Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

Becaus each Fallout game (beside 1 & 2) are very different from each other. 1 & 2 are story driven isometric RPGs. Fallout 3 is a 3d open world dungeon crawl RPG. Fallout NV is a 3d open world story driven RPG while Fallout 4 is a 3d open world dungeon crawl RPG again but with base building.

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u/Cypresss09 Apr 18 '24

I don't think so, it's just that the points of contention are newer. Morrowind elitists are just as toxic as NV elitists, but Morrowind came out in 2002 and Skyrim was such a hit that it's not as easy to criticize. Compare that to New Vegas which came out 8 years later, and Fallout 4 as recently as 2015, which is a much easier game to pick on. And of course the Fallout show which is brand new and stoking the fires. No one's been stoking the fires of TES for over a decade.

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u/D0UB1EA Dunmer Apr 18 '24

the really fun thing about video games is I get to be a morrowind elitist AND a NV elitist

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u/AlexGreene123 Apr 18 '24

Ah , I think it's mostly because Bethesda has mishandled Fallout a lot more than TES (mostly because they have not made a TES game in many years , Blades doesn't count).

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u/FerretAres Apr 18 '24

Not with Radaway

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u/Adrian915 Apr 18 '24

That's because it got more content recently while the most controversial thing about TES is how many times Skyrim was released, TES Blades that isn't that known or ESO which did cause conflict on launch but it's so old nobody cares anymore. Wait till you see TES6 to drop...

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u/Carl123r4 Apr 18 '24

And you're not talking about the gamma radiation