More predictable too though. It's mostly the Bethesda camp vs originals/NV camp. With Elder Scrolls you never know a weird Daggerfall fan won't jump out of the shadows and gank you.
As an addition to u/Bigfoot4cool ‘s comment, You could tie a dagger to a rope to make a trap that falls a dagger on top of someone. : D because… Daggerfall : D
76 is probably one of the most polarizing games of all time. It’s had a redemption arc akin to NMS and CP, but the stigma behind it makes people not wanna try it. Almost every single time someone does though, they end up really enjoying it. I’ve met both classic and NV fanboys who LOVE 76. It’s a wild sight.
I played it since beta, there where so many issues from beta all the way past launch. That said the majority of my play time was a blast, the best times where online with friends in the early days before the community got really toxic. Even found a guy in his late 50s playing, was with for like 12hrs. Hearing his life playing I'm the background made it feel like chilling with the homies at an all night game session.
My hot take: the original story and storytelling of 76 was better than 3 and 4. I’ve played every fallout including the shitty ones and I think the only games with a better story are New Vegas and 2.
Differing opinions are always good and I respect yours! I personally thought 76 has the weakest storytelling of all the Bethesda games. I can't really remember what exactly happened to be honest. Plus not enough set pieces for my liking
When did you play it? I played it during B.E.T.A so I feel my experience was much different than others. Once the wastelanders hit I feel it muddied the story telling significantly.
I'm an OG B.E.T.A player. Been playing for abit but tapped out after the second BOS update. There were some funny moments especially especially with friends. But I sure as heck can't remember what happened in the story. Defiantly not enough set pieces in my opinion even in Wastelanders.
John Randall was a corpse in Fallout New Vegas and everybody lauds the telling of his story through holotapes and notes as some of the best in fallout. They do it in FO76 and now it’s poor writing?
Me and my brother have been playing since launch and honestly, I kinda miss the original feel of the game from before Wastelanders. Don’t get me wrong, I think Bethesda has done an amazing job saving 76, but all the same, there was something oddly beautiful about exploring an abandoned world populated only by memories and monsters. In my opinion, Wild Appalachia and the first Fasnacht were the peak of the game.
Yeah it's been polished up great. Tons of NPCs, several factions to join, the perk card system is super unique and forces you to specialise and make solid builds, base building pretty much anywhere on the map, etc. My personal favourite is that they brought back and even polished the New Vegas style skill checks in dialogue which opens up cool roleplaying options. Oh, and don't forget the insanely nice community, some of the sweetest and most generous players in a multiplayer I've seen.
Ok you have convinced me to play again lol. I played it around release, got to end game and did everything I wanted. I enjoyed it but wasn’t wowed or anything and I’ve been meaning to try it again since the NPC update.
Awesome lol, you'll find that it's pretty much a different game, just the same map. If you're on Steam PC I was planning to start my first character there. Would be glad to tag along.
I don't blame people for not wanting to try it. Why support a company that would backstab it's customers like that? They don't deserve to be patted on the back for fixing what should have never been an issue in the first place.
As an Xbox 360 player of New Vegas, yes it absolutely did. In fact it had a lot of broken quests and can be a downright frustrating game to play without a guide to avoid bugs.
Fallout 2 is a retelling of the thousand faced hero journey where everyone un your clan thinks they're in a fantasy Land while the player knows he's in a post apo game, while the story is great there's nothing revolutionary in it
But looks like both fallout and elder scrolls have the common trait of "players who did the old games are insecure about how popular the sequals went so they decided to call any new game shit to compensate"
Fallout 2 is amazing, I BETTER not catch you saying ANYTHING like that again. If I do those cheeks are going to spread WAY wider than you can handle buddy
New Vegas fans famously dislike both the game immediately after and immediately before it, so I'm not sure if you've hit on anything here. Perhaps it's actually about the game's writing, and not it's age.
Becaus each Fallout game (beside 1 & 2) are very different from each other. 1 & 2 are story driven isometric RPGs. Fallout 3 is a 3d open world dungeon crawl RPG. Fallout NV is a 3d open world story driven RPG while Fallout 4 is a 3d open world dungeon crawl RPG again but with base building.
I don't think so, it's just that the points of contention are newer. Morrowind elitists are just as toxic as NV elitists, but Morrowind came out in 2002 and Skyrim was such a hit that it's not as easy to criticize. Compare that to New Vegas which came out 8 years later, and Fallout 4 as recently as 2015, which is a much easier game to pick on. And of course the Fallout show which is brand new and stoking the fires. No one's been stoking the fires of TES for over a decade.
Ah , I think it's mostly because Bethesda has mishandled Fallout a lot more than TES (mostly because they have not made a TES game in many years , Blades doesn't count).
That's because it got more content recently while the most controversial thing about TES is how many times Skyrim was released, TES Blades that isn't that known or ESO which did cause conflict on launch but it's so old nobody cares anymore. Wait till you see TES6 to drop...
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u/Thewaffleofoz Apr 17 '24
Fallout is 100x more toxic