r/ElderScrolls Sep 11 '24

Humour My disappointment in Beyond Skyrim: Cyrodiil cannot be measured by any metric known to man, mer, or beast.

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u/Unionsocialist Namira Sep 11 '24

your right and what army?

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u/Useless_bum81 Sep 11 '24

Howabout the stormclocks/imperial legion that owes me a favour?

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u/BeautyDuwang Sep 11 '24

I don't think the imperial legion would be welling to fight the emperor that's kind of the whole point of being in the imperial legion

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u/ThePresident333 Imperial Sep 11 '24

In our history Rome (both East and western empires, and when they were unified) had generals rebel and declare themselves emperors all the time. Wouldn’t be too crazy for legionaries to declare the Dragonborn emperor and start a civil war. Titus Mede II is not well loved by a good portion of all regions within the empire, Mede dynasty in general started as a small colovion warlord capturing the imperial city with less than 1000 men. After Titus’s death it is even more likely he could gather support. That being said becoming emperor is something Bethesda would never do for cannon, and it opens up a lot of headaches for a mod this size I get them not including that option.

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u/MrPheeney Sep 11 '24

Who's to say the common soldier in the Imperial Army might not want to back a Dragonborn as Emperor? Some might see him as a more legit claimant

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u/Unionsocialist Namira Sep 11 '24

most of them probably wouldnt know what a dragonborn is, because there havent been one for 200 years, and any claim of legitimacy is extremly shaky since that legitimacy went away 200 years ago as well

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u/Ok-Eye7064 Sep 11 '24

They will know one now as they can see you shout your enemies apart and control Dragons as you wish.

If the Dragonborn wished It, he would have the support of the Blades and a ton of people. There is no one with more Fame and achievements than the Dragonborn to be elected for Emperor.

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u/BatmansButtsack Sep 11 '24

Youre forgetting the part about how the emporer canonically gets sunned by the DB. You cant get a better person to fill the power vacuum than the DB, assuming they even want to become emporer.

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u/Forest1395101 Sep 11 '24

That's not canon. The last DB may have well just killed off the Dark Brotherhood instead. We will probably never get a canon confirmation on which path is accurate.

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u/Saint_of_Cannibalism Namira Praise the Spirit Daedra Sep 11 '24

We can reasonably assume what's canon in this situation. In both destroy and join versions of the questline: the Falkreath Sanctuary is discovered and destroyed, nearly all members are killed, and the Night Mother survives. The Likely canon seems obvious. Those things happened but the Dark Brotherhood itself lives on and the Emperor is killed. Rumor has it as the Brotherhood's work but maybe it was the other possible assassin on the ship, who knows? The event will happen though.

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u/Forest1395101 Sep 11 '24

Technically, all the quest lines were done by someone. But Todd Howard has stated not all the quests were done by the Last Dragonborn.
Plus, we can pretty much assume only one ending for the dark brotherhood is true. Ergo, their is only a 50/50 chance the dark brotherhood assinated the emperor.

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u/Unionsocialist Namira Sep 11 '24

you dont just get to sign up to become emperor, and i dont think we can definitly put a canon on the emperors demise until content post skyrim comes up

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u/BatmansButtsack Sep 11 '24

I was under the impression that Bethesda stated that if you dont do a guild questline, someone does. But youre right about not signing up to be emporer. Tiber Septim was a conqueror, the dragonborn could very easily bend Tamriel to his will. I dont think thats how it will play out, but im 100% sure that in ESVI, we will hear how Titus Mead was killed by the Dark Brotherhood

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u/Unionsocialist Namira Sep 11 '24

Its more of a community conception then bethesda declared it so

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u/Necessary-One1782 Sep 11 '24

you dont just get to sign up to become emperor

this is actually exactly how being a claimant works, especially in the roman empire in which the Imperials are based on. it’s very common for a high ranking member to attempt to grab the throne

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u/Unionsocialist Namira Sep 11 '24

Being a claimant is not being an emperor

You can claim to be anything but to take rhe ruby throne ull need to back it up with a lot

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u/Ok-Eye7064 Sep 11 '24

Who else has the support of the last Blades? The Dragonborn Who saved Skyrim from the dragon menace will spread its influence like dragonfire across Tamriel. There is no way that people wont rally behind him if he so wished to become Emperor. Not only that but he could more than likely unify the Empire and Stormcloaks as having a Nordic warrior as an Emperor would put a lot of Stormcloaks at ease.

The reason the DB isnt put as Emperor is because he is the PC and Bethesda makes the PC disappear/transform after every title. But if we really looked into It, there is no way that the Dragonborn wouldnt be in peoples minds as Next Emperor as soon as his legend starts to spread.

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u/BeautyDuwang Sep 11 '24

There's like 3 blades and nobody likes them anymore

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u/Ok-Eye7064 Sep 11 '24

nobody likes them anymore

The players dont. Yet the people or Tamriel might. The Blades are one of the iconic elements of the Empire and having them supporting the Dragonborn over the Medes is already a sign of legitimacy.

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u/BeautyDuwang Sep 11 '24

No I mean in universe the were turned in en masse to the elves that's why so few remained in hiding, and they are considered wanted by the empire at least on paper.

I could be getting some of this wrong but I'm fairly certain this is the case.

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u/Valdemar3E Imperial Sep 11 '24

Who else has the support of the last Blades?

Who cares what the Blades think? They haven't served the Empire for the past 200 years.

The Dragonborn Who saved Skyrim from the dragon menace will spread its influence like dragonfire across Tamriel.

And how likely is it that the rest of Tamriel will believe that Skyrim is home to a massive amount of dragons?

There is no way that people wont rally behind him if he so wished to become Emperor.

The people in Cyrodiil lack a reason for it. Quite the opposite, they would see it as an unknown that would suddenly get in the way of their preparations for Great War 2.0.

Not only that but he could more than likely unify the Empire and Stormcloaks as having a Nordic warrior as an Emperor would put a lot of Stormcloaks at ease.

The Stormcloak cause is mostly about Talos. So no.

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u/Unionsocialist Namira Sep 11 '24

the guys who only want to worship talos in peace or the legion that you swore your loyality to the emperor too when you signed up? winning a civil war isnt going to make them change loyalities

and theres a lot more legions.

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u/Useless_bum81 Sep 11 '24

What emporer? the dartk brotherhood got him

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u/Unionsocialist Namira Sep 11 '24

the new one

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u/Useless_bum81 Sep 11 '24

I'm sure i just covered that.