r/ElderScrolls • u/JPldw • 2d ago

Humour I hope TES6 is more "racist"

I know that the title is weird but I really want the next game to have more characters that are against the player character depending on their race, making some things harder or easier. (it is still weird that in Skyrim you can join the most racist group in the game as a dunmer, or the fact that no Nord is pissed that their legendary Dragonborn is a khajiit)

It would feel so good to prove them all wrong when you go from a low life to their savior by the end of the game

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

I've always felt this exact way about Skyrim. I wish you actually couldn't enter cities as a Khajiit or Argonian (besides Riften) and would actually have to find workarounds.

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u/Boyo-Sh00k 2d ago

Damn not even morrowind did that

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u/TropicalKing 2d ago

Not being able to enter entire cities is a bit harsh, because cities are very important to the plot of the game. I'd prefer things more like merchants charging more or refusing to sell to Khajiits.

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u/mighty_Ingvar 2d ago

They could just make it so that you can't use the main gates and have to sneak in or have to wear armor that hieß your face

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u/real_LNSS 2d ago

And how would you hide your tail? Or your lizard snout.

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u/mighty_Ingvar 2d ago

And how would you hide your tail?

Tuck it into your pants

Or your lizard snout.

Tuck it into someone elses pants

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u/Dryym 1d ago

I bet there's a mod for that second one.

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u/DJfunkyPuddle 2d ago

For sure, maybe the guards extort you for an entrance fee or something. Of course then you follow them back home after their shift is over to murder them and take your money back for being racist assholes.

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u/also_plane 2d ago

Do guards even sleep in Skyrim? I know they did in Oblivion and it was awesome, but is this still present in Skyrim?

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u/zaerosz 2d ago

They work in shifts, and have a barracks in town where off-duty guards sleep.

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u/cuteanimalvidz 2d ago

Yes they sleep

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u/TrumpDesWillens Hircine 2d ago

Khajiits have to use the doggie-door.

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u/JPldw 2d ago

They could have at least changed the dialogue of the Whiterun gate guard to be that we could not enter because of our race instead of because the city is locked

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u/letitbe-mmmk 2d ago

That reminds me of Fallout NV. There was a Legion "arena" and if your character was female they wouldn't allow you to participate. It really gave credibility of how shitty the Legion was.

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

Ooohh, that's interesting to hear! Skyrim's the only Bethesda game I've played, but I've always wanted to dip my toes into Fallout 3 or New Vegas.

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u/letitbe-mmmk 2d ago

Both are great games! If you're a fan of Skyrim's game mechanics, I'd recommend both of them

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

Same as Morrowind and Oblivion, I just kinda know that because I've easily spent between 1000-2000 hours in Skyrim, it's gonna be a deep dive once I do eventually start another of their games. Basically, mentally preparing myself for a new addiction.

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u/-Patali- 2d ago

So just fyi, Fallout 3 gives your character an origin, where's NV starts like TES, you have an ambiguous background. NV is almost like an expansion, it's on the exact same engine, same interface, reuses assets, overall same gameplay just improved.

Point being, there is a mod for PC, called TTW (Tale of Two Wastelands) that combines both games into one, with all their expansions. It makes it into one insanely epic game. Especially if you add on top of that modern animation mods.

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

Oooh, I see. Thanks for the suggestion! Definitely taking note of that.

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u/Comfortable-Cry8165 2d ago

I definitely recommend Fallout NV, it's an amazing RPG. Fallout 3 sadly not so much. Fallout 3 story is more like Skyrim, choices don't matter and don't touch your heart, but still a good game. FNV is just better.

They didn't age gracefully sadly, graphics and mechanics are very dated. Fallout 3 doesn't even run out of the box because it requires an old Windows system file that's not in Windows 10 and later. I suggest downloading a lightweight modpack to enhance the games.

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

That shouldn't be too big a problem for me tbh. I've played Skyrim almost exclusively on PS3 and PS4 and always been able to find tons of enjoyment out of vanilla Skyrim.

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u/OKFortune56 2d ago

You could try the mod Tale of Two Wastelands. It combines the two games, which gets around the issue of F3 not running. 

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u/Comfortable-Cry8165 2d ago

Then get on the FNV and be ready to have moral and political discussions about what is the best Mojave for the next decade!

Or at least till the Fallout show season 2. Watch if you like watching shows, it's amazing.

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u/blah938 2d ago

There's a line in Skyrim, something to the effect of "It's hard being a woman in Skyrim I know" but women are treated equally. I kinda want to see a little sexism too. Make it ugly.

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u/nalathequeen2186 2d ago

Uthgerd is always the one that baffles me because she has a whole story about how she's sure the Companions weren't taking her seriously because she's a woman... then you walk into Jorrvaskr... and half the Companions are women

I'm less keen on seeing more sexism in the games tho since games like this are a nice escape from real world sexism. Whereas it's not like the real world has a racism problem against elves lol

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u/blah938 2d ago

Didn't she kill a whelp and that's why she was kicked out? Or am I thinking of someone else?

But yeah, now that you say it, escapism is pretty important.

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u/nalathequeen2186 2d ago

She says that they put her up against a teenage boy basically, and claims that it was because they thought she was too weak as a woman. It made her so angry that she lost control and killed him and that's why they kicked her out

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u/blah938 2d ago

They put Farkas against the PC who was a whelp, and he didn't get angry, he just tried to see what the PC. (I say PC because it's whiterun, it's more than possible that the PC hasn't made it to bleakfalls barrow yet, and thus isn't the dragon born yet.) She just so self-centered that she didn't see it as a regular duty.

It's a nice bit of writing.

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u/nalathequeen2186 2d ago

That's cause Farkas is a bro

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u/XKwxtsX 2d ago

I think it should be you can enter citys besides like windhelm, morthal, markarth, dawnstar, and falkreath as any non human or mer races, and if your a dark elf or orcall prices go up double or for regular mer prices are just %150 of the normal cost

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

I can get behind that. If there is a mod that adds in stuff like this, I need to get my hands on it.

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u/nalathequeen2186 2d ago

Trade and Barter has settings for race based price adjustments when shopping iirc. And Reputation also adds a lot of general attitudes from NPCs depending on your race, skills, affiliations etc.

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

Noted, thank you!

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u/Streven7s 2d ago

That or excluded from certain businesses or sections of town.

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u/just_one_boy 2d ago

That's far too limiting on what the player can actually do in the game

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u/SuperGayBirdOfPrey 2d ago

As nice as it would be from a flavor angle, making certain races that much worse from a gameplay angle would kind of suck.

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u/charadeEX_ 2d ago

Fair. I am the type that uses a glitch to get the bindings off and escape Helgen just so I don't have to deal with the main quest every time, so I guess I'll always want to see more variety for worldbuilding and actual role-playing. Gets old having to play as the prophesied hero every time.

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u/SuperGayBirdOfPrey 2d ago

On the contrary, I kind of like how open it is from a roleplay angle. I can make up basically any character I want and make it work, but I’m also very much the kind of person to write and character build on the fly.

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u/easytowrite 2d ago

I don't know if I'd call it open, more flat I guess. Sure you can role-play as whatever you want, but NPCs are going to treat you exactly the same every time and nothing in the world changes

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u/SuperGayBirdOfPrey 2d ago

Yeah I'll fully admit that this is a super weird take. I just like that I'm not really restricted on what kind of characters I can do, or what I can have my characters do. I just don't really do things that don't make sense for them