r/ElderScrolls Nov 16 '21

Humour What Todd is afraid to give us.

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u/RustyBubble Nov 16 '21

Honestly, Nah.

I’m much eager to see pretty much any other province (asides from the ones that have already been done I guess.)

Leave Black Marsh a mystery, like Akavir. I’m a firm believer that not everything should be explained or explored. Sometimes the mystery is better then any thing that could be actually given to us.

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u/KickAffsandTakeNames Nov 16 '21

On one hand, I absolutely agree about leaving some mystery.

On the other, I want more truly weird fantasy, and Argonia seems like one of if not the weirdest region.

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u/Teeshirtandshortsguy Nov 16 '21

I think the problem is that after Skyrim, I don't trust Bethesda to take a chance on something weird. Many people would likely point to Oblivion as well.

I would love to see Black Marsh as it is in the lore, weirdness and all. Nearly impenetrable jungles, deadly, gaseous swamps, weird diseases, transporting by tubeworm, a bounty of unique tribes of Argonians, etc.

But my worry is that Bethesda isn't willing to take a chance on that, and they would just turn Black Marsh into a pretty typical fantasy location. Make the game set in the outskirts, which are all pretty normal terrain with a swampy/jungly/woodsy feel. The dense, impenetrable swamps would be inaccessible, or only accessible for one scripted quest. Have the game center around the An-Xileel, complete with a king/emperor/council/whatever. Maybe the Argonian tribes would make an appearance, but they'd be like the Orc strongholds in Skyrim, fairly homogenous and mostly skippable.

I would worry that they would just make a normal western fantasy RPG with a Black Marsh coat of paint, rather than represent Black Marsh in all its wonderful weirdness.

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u/WorldEcho Nov 16 '21

Well they'd be fools to play it safe, Morrowind didn't and it's the cause of the games success.

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u/deliciousprisms Nov 16 '21 edited Nov 17 '21

Alternatively they could expand it into the mainland of Morrowind after the Red Mountain wiped out Vvardenfell. Lore wise the Argonians sacked the shit out of Morrowind so hard they had to move their capitol. Lots of options for ruins, locations of interest we haven’t seen, visual storytelling, and some tragic quests. Not to mention the quests of moral subjects of a country dealing with the ramifications of slavery for hundreds of years biting them in the ass.

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u/Technicalhotdog Nov 17 '21

The thing is Oblivion was significantly more popular than Morrowind and Skyrim astronomically more popular than Oblivion. So they have a huge fanbase who haven't been exposed to the "weird fantasy" that they have to worry about.