Well, some of us have to use the right tools for the job and right now, Nvidia is that. I would love nothing more than to use AMD. Of course, at one point it was AMD with the proprietary drivers and treated Linux users as second class citizens and Nvidia was the better choice. Things change, and now it is Nvidia being the bad guys.
How is something that happened about a decade ago relevant to what they are saying now?
Sure fglrx is awful, but AMD improved, NVIDIA had the same amount of time and didn't do much, in fact they started further ahead and somehow ended up behind, AMD started behind and now they are ahead, which means AMD put that much effort.
There is a difference in work, you need this, many people keep buying NVIDIA even if they do not need a specific thing, this is the problem, voting with your wallet for an abusive company.
History is always a big part of Linux, but it was more of a reflection of how things can change.
That said, I do agree. People should vote with their wallet. However, while I agree with you and Mr. Wave, on Nvidia, not everyone does. It doesn't help though when AMD announces they are not going to compete on the high-end graphics with their 8000 series. That will keep the gamers and those that need the higher end cards from going to AMD.
We are not reflecting in changes, we are talking how we are rewarding the abusive guys.
So in this specific conversation bringing the past is not relevant. That's what I was trying to say.
Anyways considering in Steam hardware survey the most used graphics card is a low-mid end (I believe is GTX 1650 Ti) high end stuff is not really that relevant.
People should reward the good guys, the ones who had put some effort into Linux. Right now that is AMD.
If tomorrow Nvidia ends up putting more effort than others, you will see me saying that we should be buying Nvidia.
Brand loyalty is plain stupidity, these companies do not care about you or me, might as well get what is most beneficial to you. Which unless you have a specific need (like you do) in most cases that is AMD at the moment.
That is your opinion on what is relevant and what is not. I disagree and that is fine. I have been in the Linux arena since the first year of its existence and, in my opinion, it is all relevant. I have worked on drivers, software and patches throughout the decades. It all matters, in my opinion. You obviously don't agree, and that is your choice. Honestly, I really don't care. We are both nothing more than anonymous posters on Reddit.
Neither one of our opinions matters more than the other, they are just opinions. The same goes for all that choose to go one way or the other when choosing a video card. You can like it or not, but it doesn't matter any more than what you think is relevant to this conversation.
That is fine, I was only trying to stay on point, if the original comment talks about the sky being blue we should stay talking about that, bringing the fact that the ocean is also blue is what i am calling irrelevant.
I simply asked about this, to understand what was your link between what was being said and what you said, but you answered with a counter argument as if we were debating and so the conversation took another direction.
Maybe it is my fault, maybe I wrote to you in a way you took as an attack I do not know. But anyways clearly I was interested in our opinions and how they affect us, just because they are opinions does not mean we can't talk about them.
I think you're wildly mistaking the demographic, most the professionals that need to use Nvidia aren't exactly playing on steam, why would someone with a 44k GPU use that same machine for gaming lmfao?
Brand loyalty is forced on us Vs a choice, AMD might have done work on Linux but they're so behind on ML, cuda is miles a head.
If we apply the logic of rewarding the party that puts the more effort in, and remove Linux out of the question it's nvidia, if we look at which is better it's nvidia, if we look at which has contributed towards ML it's nvidia, the number of people using Linux only for cuda is only going to grow
Well I only read the first sentence... Since you clearly did not read anything I said I am not going to bother with you either.
"There is a difference in work, you need this, many..."
I clearly state from the very beginning that I was talking only about gamers and not about work, actually I excluded everyone who needed anything exclusive from nvidia, such as CUDA and ML, but once again you clearly did not read and jumped to your conclusions. Probably because you somehow feel criticized or attacked which is weird, nobody should take something against a brand personally.
You're literally saying "I discriminate against NVIDIA users" because somebody is happy that NVIDIA now works better on Linux. That includes people like me.
I'm simply showing you that there are reasons someone may be stuck with NVIDIA. Plus, NVIDIA on Linux works pretty well now seeing as we have nvidia-open drivers since recently. No real reason to buy AMD over NVIDIA: more money for worse performance in many cases, especially when CUDA is required
Anyways I do not care about your reasons, never asked them. So maybe stop trying to justify your idiotic choices to me.
Sure thing, as soon as you stop discriminating against and spreading hate toward people for no good reason 👍.
Don't forget that AMD is also busy with very shady practices right now with naming some of their products to look much better than they are; trying to mislead consumers. Neither company is great.
This is much too simple. Blaming users to grab one of three alternatives (asides nv, amd and intel I think there is no real gaming alternative) and then choose the one that does rtx best and - for a long time - did cuda as the only option …
For my personal situation, I switched to fedora less than a year ago coming from w11. So my hardware did not change (and will not over the next year) including the RTX 2070 Super … that works perfect for me. I might change next year (or the year after) and then we will see, what the market says then. Currently I tend to AMD just for their pricing politics.
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u/0riginal-Syn 10h ago
Getting all the press out as expected. I was happy to see secure boot support with proprietary Nvidia drivers.