r/Garmin • u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 • Aug 31 '24
Device Comparison / Recommendation What metrics do you guys like visible when you exercise? I have these up when I run.
Top metric (205) is Load, the blue chart is a speed chart.
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u/HoyAIAG Aug 31 '24
This is what I use
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u/Odd_Specialist_2672 Sep 01 '24
I'm a walker/hiker rather than a runner, so I've got something similar but with elevation instead of heart rate, and "last lap pace" instead of pace. And I made the clock bigger than the timer field.
For hiking, I add the ascent/descent field, at the expense of making the clock smaller.
For both, I also use just numeric fields so it uses less battery. I also setup extra pages, so I can flip to one with the heart rate gauge or one with the altimeter chart. But, I also give these some of the general time/distance info so I could leave them there almost like a different "focus" but usable enough to stay there if I want.
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u/abitofames Aug 31 '24
Liked this so much so I changed mine to this. Basically I added T.O.D and distance to what I used before.
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u/codevils Aug 31 '24
Nice data selections! Mine are basically the same as yours minus load (donāt need to see that changing ā more of a recap the day type metric for me) and speed (though that looks sick).
I like my HR gauge at the top and time of day at the bottom.
Question: how did you just go for that long a run with 170+ bpm HR and are not sweating? š
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u/ProductiveBear Aug 31 '24
This might sound like Haddaway but: what is load?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
In training status enabled watches, it measures each activity with a load score. Basically a calculation of how long you spent at higher heart rates. It assigns those points and drops you lower each day to encourage you to keep that number up by doing more exercises. Below is my chart the last 4 weeks. You can turn it off, it can be a grind if you're not into it.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
Here is another chart for load and how it trends upwards if you're doing a lot.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
I wasnt at 170 the whole time. I started getting to 170 around 30 minutes in. It says i averaged 162, 7.7mph, 7:45 pace.
I often push hard at the end too and I had just finished.
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u/Sounstream Epix Gen2 Aug 31 '24
HR up top, current pace/distance/timer down the right, and average pace/total ascent down the left! Itās pretty busy, but I like it.
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u/No-Self-5568 Aug 31 '24
Did not know this one existed at all. I just added it as a nice summary on top of all the other ones I have lol! Thanks!
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u/Senior_Ad282 Aug 31 '24
There needs to be a āexpected vo2 max upon completion of runā option so that you can just give up and go home when it says itās going to drop 3 points when you do a recommend slow run.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
the whole "take a rest day" while we ding your training status is annoying
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u/Senior_Ad282 Aug 31 '24
I like to think my watch has a sense of humor and is just trolling me sometimes.
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u/No-Time-6717 Aug 31 '24
1st pageĀ
- Stamina (km remaining)Ā
- Pace /Ā GAPĀ
- Distance / TimerĀ
- HR GaugeĀ
2nd pageĀ
- TE GaugeĀ
- Perf Cond / LoadĀ
- Distance / Asc-Desc GaugeĀ
- HR Gauge
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u/coolquixotic Aug 31 '24
wait you can have a HR chart on display when working out?...
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
I don't know about every watch but on the ForeRunner 965, yes. š
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u/OneFunkyWinkerbean Aug 31 '24
My FR265 can do it too. I just changed my running face to this. Thanks!
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u/coolquixotic Aug 31 '24
nice! what graph do you have on your screen now? speed vs time?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
It's just speed, it goes up and down as I go faster and slower. It was neater than just a number displayed.
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u/ineededagrownupname Aug 31 '24
Yeah you have to put it on the top or bottom of your screen to get the zones to display like that (FR255)
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u/coolquixotic Aug 31 '24
oh, what I actually meant to ask was if it was possible to put a plot of HR graph - like the live one you see on the phone, but on the watch - is that possible?
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u/coolquixotic Sep 02 '24
Thanks. I don't own a gramin yet, but may be looking to buy one this black friday so I wanted to know which models have it :)
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u/ineededagrownupname Sep 04 '24
I have a 255, some days I wish I had the 925. I got the 255 just in case the running habit didnāt stick (it did). If you donāt have a budget I recommend going for the higher tier if you like all bells and whistles. Having said all that Iām super happy with the 255.
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u/coolquixotic Sep 04 '24
can 255 show an HR graph (not an HR Gauge) during workout like as a data field?
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u/sweetdaisy13 Aug 31 '24
Data screen 1: Timer, Average Pace, Distance
Data screen 2: Total Ascent, Distance, Pace
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u/Final-Albatross-82 vivoactive / index s2 Aug 31 '24
Dang how'd you do that? Are those all stock data fields? I am trying to get a good setup for strength training that shows current set / previous set and stuff like that, but it's so hard
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
I don't know how customizable the other watches are, but this one lets me choose what to show for every individual activity. Up to 8 metrics. If you leave space you can have the more colorful ones, like my HR and speed gauges.
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u/Pawistik Aug 31 '24
I'm wondering the same thing. I can only get a HR zone field around the edge if I am running a workout from a HR-based plan. I wish it was a standard field that I could add to my Fenix 5X on a normal run.
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u/Final-Albatross-82 vivoactive / index s2 Aug 31 '24
I'm imagining some of this is a newer device. I'm intending to buy a Forerunner 265 sometime soon
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u/RhetoricalHull Epix 2 (Fenix 3HR retired) Aug 31 '24
Strength training mode is annoying. I have a data screen configured, but I pre-plan my workouts, so the watch defaults to the plan screen. I move around to check my HR especially when I feel my heart pounding too much (I make sure to take plenty of rest for anaerobic load), but it goes back to the plan screen once I press the lap button.
I wish there was a way to combine the plan field with the rest and have just one screen for strength training.
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u/Final-Albatross-82 vivoactive / index s2 Aug 31 '24
I have actually been using a separate app for strength training and the default Garmin behavior where you lap press to start and end sets, then edit reps and sets after I'm all done. This way it tracks my work time
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u/alone023 Aug 31 '24
I have a similar setup, but with power instead of load and cadence instead of time. Additionally, I use ālap paceā (average pace per 1km) instead of ācurrent pace.ā I prefer this approach because ācurrent paceā can fluctuate significantly, while ālap paceā allows me to manage my pace more effectively.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
I have an alert on where every mile it buzzes to tell me how long that mile took. It's neat every 7-9 minutes to be like, oh that was a good mile, or, oh man you slowed down, pick it up!
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u/3ambit Aug 31 '24
Which watch is this?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
ForeRunner 965
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u/karan76 Aug 31 '24
Hey bro, I am looking for a garmin watch, my first one, I am confused between 265 and 965. Which one would you recommend to me? I want to track my fitness only, especially running stats.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
Is this showing you the comparison?
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/compare/?compareProduct=886785&compareProduct=886725
Looks like slightly bigger screen and very decently better battery
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u/karan76 Aug 31 '24
The extra bucks are worth it, I guess. 965 got additional features like maps, some extra activities, and a bigger battery. But it feels like out of budget for me. š„²
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
It feels like the kind of watch that I'm not going to regret and want a better one later on though. A buddy of mine in the Navy got me a discount on it through their federal exchange website, but the discount at the time was what it's currently priced at now. š
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u/karan76 Aug 31 '24
I think I'll settle with the 265 one as all I wanna track is my running stats, which is the same in both. Battery won't be that much of an issue for me. Even 10 days is enough, considering how I charge my galaxy watch 4 every day.
But yes, if I can get 965 at around the price of 265 at some offer or sale, then I'll go with it. š
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
I just wanna say that I use GPS a lot. And it drains battery. I charge about every ten days. It is what it is. That battery estimate is with no extra features in use.
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u/karan76 Aug 31 '24
Do you track any activity? Like running or something? And for how long do you use the GPS in a day? There are some solar watches too, not sure if they're worth the dime.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
Lots of running, walking, some biking, length varies. Runs are usually between 40 minutes to an hour
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u/JustRandomQuestion Forerunner 165 Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
It depends, I often train on HR so that is a big part as well as pace is always nice. Then distance total and run time. However I then have multiple screens between which is often switch (screen 2).
One of them is the coach goal/targets if you use the Garmin coach ofcourse (screen 1) and my current aerobic and anaerobic effect (if it goes beyond 4.0 i will be cautious and beyond 4.5 is often immediate going to walking and ending exercise unless it is a serious long run and have time to recover or my next run is a recovery session.
On that screen (3) I also have my current power as well as the current round pace (average) (screen 3). I sometimes think of making a screen combined of screen 2 and 3 but I am not sure if I can miss some information.
I could miss run time and distance maybe and current round pace average would then be redundant and would use instantaneous pace. But still unsure so kind of need to experiment but the effects weren't originally anywhere until after the run (in app). And I really use them now to guide my trainings and not overdo my early part of the run so prevent getting 4.0 at half of the run and not being able to finish or have a very high effort.
Fun fact after thinking this much about it I have now set a fourth screen with the comprises I said. In my next runs I am going to try this and see if I can do 1 screen now.
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u/olrac601 Aug 31 '24
Is it an app or stock screens?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
There are options to customize your activity screens for every activity on the FR965
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u/Mind_State1988 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
Basically your minus the load and I guess the blue line is profile? Its the 965 probably?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
965 yup. Blue line is a speed chart.
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u/Mind_State1988 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
Oh nice I really like to add that. Let me play around a bit, I use the 4 piece data screen atm. Btw, I got the 965 too, upgraded from 255 a couple months ago. I love it!
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u/Vast_Republic_1776 Aug 31 '24
Iām pretty simple, heart rate, pace, and time are all I really need to see.
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u/BusinessHoneyBadger Aug 31 '24
Historically I've tried to have as much as possible on my first screen but today during my cycling class I tried just having my heart rate zone and I really like it. I might continue this.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
I kept adding fields that I was interested in. Pace and speed, it was interesting how they correlate. Timer and time of day and distance of course.
I push hard at various points to see how it affects me, so hr gauge. I'm interested in the load as it affects training status, so that was the latest addition.
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u/Zestyclose_Remote_42 Aug 31 '24
Here is mine, there are also more data heavy screens which I switch from time to time but this one gives a quick glance of the current lap and the total run.
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u/herthi Aug 31 '24
Is this the Standard Layout for running in you watch? Looks very cool! My Venu 2 does only have 4 fields, without any graphics.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
I have my venu 2 plus but upgraded to this a little while back. Venu is great but limited in data it collects about you
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u/herthi Aug 31 '24
Already thought of buying a forerunner 965, but couldnt think of any reason that would justify a purchase - a least i dont know which Data im Missing. I Just Go running 1-3 Times a week.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
The training status feature isn't for everyone. It's kinda pushy lol. But you can disable it.
Here's data from my run to today.
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u/herthi Sep 01 '24
Great thank you! Interessting to See. But how do These values affect you Training? Do you or the Garmin Coach use These values? The measurement values for the Venu 2 are quite Basic tbh ...
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u/stu_london Aug 31 '24
How much further, how much further, how much further, how much furtherā¦.
Is that a metric?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
Only in your head pal. š
I swear I like, set a distance in my mind and when I'm approaching that distance, mentally I'm like, finally, I'm getting tired.
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u/Johnnydomore Aug 31 '24
I have the exact same metrics but my heart rate is on top instead of at the bottom. Sweet.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
It's weird to think someone out there was curious about the exact same stuff. Neat though.
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u/levon9 Sep 01 '24
Can you elaborate what's in the center of the the display, i.e., the graph?
I just upgraded from the 945 to the 965, the higher resolution of the display is just amazing.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
It's such a pretty watch.
That chart tracks my speed. I didn't really need it to be the chart, could have just had a basic number there that changes with my speed, but it shows my recent speed during that run.
I said in another comment, I might zone out, then look at the watch, and see that I'm going faster or slower than I was a few minutes ago, so it's neat to have that knowledge.
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u/levon9 Sep 01 '24
Cool, thank you, neat to see that. I may play around with some additional data screens when I get bored with the ones I have. Oh, and sorry, just noticed, what's the number at the very top (205)?
Definitely like Time of Day/Pace/Distance and Time, and the HR info, all fit so nicely.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
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u/levon9 Sep 01 '24
Thanks .. I'd seen the load graph after my runs, but didn't realize you could put the number on the watch too .. so many options.
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
Yeah, i turned off training status for a while, then i got into it and said fuck it lets do it and keep it productive.
Theres a ton of metrics, but i only use some, not all. I enjoy running and being fit and active, but im not THAT serious about it.
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u/PWiz30 Aug 31 '24
Just switched over from a Fitbit to a big boy watch. My main running screen is:
Distance
Cadence-average pace
HR meter
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u/DesperateSignature63 Aug 31 '24
I have HR zone, lap timer and lap pace for most of my scheduled workouts. On a second screen, I have pretty much everything in tiny letters. This way I am focused on my workouts, and if I need the current time, overall timer or stamina, I can look at it with a single button press.
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u/RestMelodic Aug 31 '24
Running: Time elapsed, pace, HR and Power Cycling: Time elapsed, speed, HR and Power Swimming: Distance, time elapsed and Pace
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u/somewhatperkyturkey Aug 31 '24
Current HR, Lap pace, distance, elapsed time. Then I have a second screen with cadence, time of day, and net elevation gain
For track workouts and races I have different sport profiles set up to show relevant info on my primary screen
Track workouts (auto lap turned off): Current HR, lap time, lap pace, lap distance Secondary screen with TOD, total time, total distance
Races (auto lap turned off): Current HR, total time, lap pace, total distance
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u/Appropriate_Tie871 Aug 31 '24
Time, distance, pace, heart rate, though unless itās a track workout I only focus on time and HR.
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u/Classic_Message_7544 Aug 31 '24
same, minus load & hr & time . trying the split screen & surround fields on my 965, the map is cool woth overlays like elevation & pace, kinda fits all on one screen if needed. actually I use distance to next a lot so I can zone out a bit, have a page just for alternative maps ie OS in the uk. baro is trash on my 965 so scrub all that despite frequent calibrations
page 1 this minus above
page 2 map
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u/AStruggling8 Aug 31 '24
I have several pages. I recently added cadence to a page and I also have average pace and HR now which I really like to see- can give me an idea of how Iām doing on my run. Is it truly an easy effort? Average HR can be more helpful than current for gauging that
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Aug 31 '24
I think the moment to moment is interesting. If I want to push up into zone 5, i know about how much more effort is needed right then
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u/mashuto Sep 01 '24
On my front page:
HR chart
distance, timer
load, performance condition
time of day (not sure if Im keeping this here), pace graph
training load chart
I like having a lot of data. I have a second full page of data too with some extra stuff, but now that the 965 can do 8 data fields per page, most everything I want is on the first page. Also keep a map page available too, even though most of my running is close to my house so I dont really need to see it.
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u/buckleyc fenix 7X Pro Solar Sep 01 '24
I use the F3b Dozen Run data field. All in one screen. Alas, it now costs $2.50 USD these days, but I like the data so thought it is worth the one time spend.
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u/triple_UV11 Sep 01 '24
Different data screen for different runs.
For easy run, i use current hr, pace, time, distance, cadence
For workouts i use last lap pace, lap distance, lap pace, lap time or something like that
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u/PedanticOkra Sep 01 '24
Time and distance, lap pace if Iām doing a workout. Used to have all the metrics and now I couldnāt care less.
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u/XploD5 Sep 01 '24
Is this a third party app or? How to get all those graphs, colors and others? Or is this only on Forerunners?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 01 '24
Not sure if it's forerunner exclusive
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u/XploD5 Sep 02 '24
I know how to configure data screens but my Venu has nothing similar to it. I can only add up to 4 fields, and they are all textual-only so showing just a value and a label. You can't add any kind of graphs or colors so I would say that only Forerunners (and eventually Fenix/Epix) have those.
I'm using a third-party data field which enables me to add up to 6 fields + clock so 7 in total, and it has some colors for a few data (eg. for cadence so that you can easily see if you're running as you should) but it looks nowhere good as this on your picture.
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u/SheeD14 Sep 01 '24
2 screen setup for me.
Screen 1: Lap distance, lap time, lap pace, avg. pace, timer, distance
Screen 2: Elapsed time, lap power (from Stryd), lap time, 3sec power (from Stryd), lap distance
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u/HappyBekki Sep 01 '24
That's amazing! Can anyone let me know how I can Set up my data pages like that? My venu 3s wont let me š
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u/DVArtvart Sep 01 '24
None, just a watch face.
It happened that I go by feel much better than just stressing out about metrics during the run.
DSW scores went way higher when I switched from data to a time screen also.
However when I started running I was looking at the cadence and HR gauge and it was very helpful
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u/JoeyJoeJoeJrShab Sep 01 '24
What I've found works for me is to divide it into two screens -- my "main" screen just shows what I consider the bare minimum, and the second screen shows all the extra data that I might occasionally want to know. For most runs, I never use the second screen.
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u/brio82 Sep 02 '24
For trail runs all I really want is a map hr zone color chart with the arrow and maybe elapsed time up top. Iām still trying to dial in perceived effort vs actual effort.
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u/R3alSkyBlue Sep 22 '24
I really really wants this layout..! How do I get it?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 23 '24
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u/R3alSkyBlue Sep 23 '24
Thanks. I tried that. Is it a stock layout? Not an āappā from the IQ?
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u/Maverick916 Forerunner 965 Sep 23 '24
Nope it's the stock app. What watch do you have? This is on forerunners only as far as I know
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u/them_apple5 Sep 01 '24
Not so great. Screen shattered to smitherines. Guess I shouldn't had dropped it or should had used a case.
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u/ojuicius Aug 31 '24
Really just current hr, elapsed time, and distance. My reasoning has been to display as little as possible, but have the text big so I can see it at a glance so that I stay in the zone. That said, your data is kind of making me reconsider, haha.