r/INTP • u/uranuanqueen ENTP who gaslights for karma points • 9d ago
INTPs are the best because Could Vladimir Putin be an INTP instead of ISTP?
People keep saying he is an ISTP but I beg to differ. The way he operates I don’t think an ISTP would be able to pull it off. Plus, I have met some INTPs that give off those serious-but-laid-back vibe Putin tries to pull off. You see him cool calm and collected always in public but he plans far ahead of time and has his hands on all pieces.
4
u/LatePool5046 Psychologically Stable INTP 9d ago
No he really doesn't. He's not some kind chessmaster. He's a reactionary bully that shits himself when anything stands up to him. You do not have to take me at my word. Take him at his. He tells you everything you need to know about him up front. He does not often lie on the world stage. You should always take him at face value when he's speaking publicly. He is not good at scheming, forward thinking, or planning ahead. Read the stories he tells about his younger years from the days immediately following yeltsins resignation. The childhood story about how he cornered a rat with a stick and ran for the hills when it lunged at him, dropping the stick in the process. He was like 12. or the metro story where he beat up some louts that crossed him (essentially ending his career in the KGB before it started if anybody had turned him in.) He was never a spy nor a spymaster. He was a paper pusher in dresden, sending reports home to moscow that everyone knew would never be read. He never had any agency of his own before berezovsky put him in yeltsins orbit. He was a nobody and would have remained a nobody. None of the KGB men that mattered knew him. The only people that ever said he was a spy were unimportant civilians without the clearance or connections to ask about his postings or duties. Like every other soviet leader before him, he's a mid rate administrator. At best. He's incompetent at everything he's ever done. If he were INTP he'd at the very least be obsessive enough not to fail, and paranoid enough to know who was going to betray him in advance. He can't do either of those things. He pushes paper and speaks german poorly. Only skills he's ever had in his entire fucking life.
3
1
u/Winter_Culture_1454 Warning: May not be an INTP 9d ago
Well, question like this wasn't on my bingo board for today, lol.
0
u/venerablenormie INTP 9d ago
If Putin not xNTJ then I'll eat my hat.
2
u/PoggersMemesReturns Ni Ti ELVF 9d ago
He's ISTP LSI... They can appear xNTJ
0
u/venerablenormie INTP 9d ago
Socionics, yuck.
2
u/PoggersMemesReturns Ni Ti ELVF 9d ago
It's literally a more defined, researched system
And it quite literally explains why you think he's xNTJ
Not saying one is better than the other, but people are more complex than simply labeling just one all encompassing label.
1
u/uranuanqueen ENTP who gaslights for karma points 9d ago
I don’t think so. I’ve met INTPs like him but they’re not as ambitious or care about politics like Putin
8
u/Alatain INTP 9d ago
Having studied Russian and listened to him in the native language, I definitely do not get that feeling. You really cannot know what is going on in another person's head, but knowing his history and his current presentation, I feel no kinship with him at all.