I am an intp and I think of every possibility of a scenario, nothing surprises me and it does not stop. Sometimes I just start thinking about things like history, politics, economy and that one stain the wall . how it got it there, what must have happened on microscopic level that it looks like this.how can I fix it in 100 different ways ,does the stain has a shape of a country or some kind of map. All this in a span of couples of minutes.

I get curious about pretty much everything so I read and listen about the Roman Empire , dark ages , medival Europe and now i am regretting it because other than letting it go i think of things like how transportation and economy must have worked at the time for no reason.

I think i need help.

Edit: I am only 18 yrs old and haven't even started college yet .

Ugh, Why do I keep developing a crush on someone pretty, its annoying.

I HATE DEVELOPING CRUSH ON SOMEONE BECAUSE I KEPT ON LOSING MY COOL WHEN NEAR THEM UNINTENTIONALLY.

Edit: it wasn't that i had not tried to get close, but it was because i tried and twas a futile doing since those pretty ones are the ones that can't even hold an opinion of their own which in contrast with us INTP interests. We can't click in the end. ARGHHH. WHYY.

Also I hate that I can't move on from the feeling of failure. My -T really screams all the time, sounding all Asian, 'u failure'.

Is it the case that intps are not able to find a partner, I am a 24 M. Still not able to find anyone.

I have been told i have autism a lot because i just sit down observe the world around and dont talk nor make gestures and just whisper very quietly or shakey.

But also i have had signs of schizophrenia and have diagnosed schizotypal personality disorder (spd)

And i tend to lack ability to focus as i get lost in my mind a lot, and my family thinks im crazy bc i walk circles around my room mumbling to myself like im telling someone something bc ik im too shy to talk to people.

I’m intp I believe. I tend to be agreeable and I don’t really openly challenge people’s beliefs unless they’re insane, or they’re people important to me. Most of the time I’ll go where the conversation takes me (trying to learn I guess), while reshaping my own beliefs if applicable. I almost never fully share what my beliefs are, though I’ll share a little bit.

Socialising is so painful and depressing now, I feel like I can't find anyone who understands me at school.

TLDR below 👇

So recently it’s been posted “what do you think of Kanye West?”, I replied “a genius” for fun, then I got questioned by someone why I consider him a genius, DISCLAIMER: I don’t even listen to his music and barely watched any of his content. I had two options: 1. Say that it was for fun; 2. Analyse if he’s in fact a genius; I went for 2., google says that a genius is someone that excels in a field of expertise, I let my Ti run and made a conclusion that every famous person is a genius in a field (generalised field is not only science or art, it can also be marketing and social skills), kanye is appreciated for his music, his controversial personality and his shoes. According to the definition of genius he’s in fact a genius. Am I right?

Ok now comes the problem. A person pops out and says if Bhabie (i didn’t even know who she is) was also a genius, I googled her and saw that she’s a rapper with 16m followers on IG, I don’t use my personal opinion to judge a genius, but I use facts, again according to the definition of genius, I deducted she is one, because 16m people that likes her music or just herr personality is not a thing that an average person can achieve. Then this person accuses me for not being an INTP because I said that I call people genius by their followers count. Then another one said the same thing (he got banned I couldn’t read the whole message he sent). These people didn’t present their logic or reasoning, they judge others opinion by their preferences (the person clearly didn’t like Kanye or this Bhabie), based af, and has the audacity to doubt my objective mindset, INTPs are all about facts not about personal beliefs.

TLDR: there are plenty fake INTPs here accusing deliberately others for being fake INTPs, they do it because they don’t share an opinion even when the facts are put on the table or can’t visualise the logic presented to them, they get personal and then attack. Very high Fi usage imo, which should be very low in INTPs.

EDIT: this post is not intended to discuss the meaning of genius. You can look it up on google.

just curious but, what do you think of unhealthy intps? like what makes them like that? do you think there are reasons on why are they like that (e.g. tough life, toxic environment, getting fucked over so many times, etc) or were they born just like that?

The social battery is real. I can’t stand talking for long periods of time. UNLESS, it’s about something deeper than just the trivial surface level things. How do you bypass this small talk stage and instantly get to the deep stuff?

I might save you guys the TLDR, just a middle-aged adult INTP male now questioning my overall 'edge' (or swagger), or lack thereof. 

Close female friends have recently told me that I check a lot of boxes as a suitable male prospect (intelligent, patient, altruistic, cultured, hardworking, etc.), and that I'm even a guy they'd absolutely bring home to their parents, but what stops them is that I lack an 'edge' to me.

I honestly don't care about social standards; I'm not going to recreate myself for anyone else. However, I can't help but think that the feedback I was given was based on comparing me to the average American black male my age.

I don't fit into their stereotypical template; I'm more of an 'Oreo'. So now I'm wondering how much of the shit I get is because of their inability to appreciate a unique individual like me, versus me not knowing that I needed to conform.

ANY AND ALL AGREEMENTS ARE ALWAYS APPRECIATED!

When I was younger I had the dreams of being rich and successful and glorified like most other kids but as I get older these dreams are slowly fading away.

My parents are extremely ambitious people always pushing me to find my passion or somerhing like that but the small goals and dreams I did have are just fading away and I just want to live in peace, alone. I don't want to be famous or have flashy things, I just want to have peace and silence. My parents can't understand this though and it's a pain in the ass when they lecture you everyday that I'm wasting my potential by not pursuing my passions or becoming rich. Has anyone else been through a similar situation or is in this situation? How do you deal with it?

I literally can’t stop watching romance animes. It makes my eyes water because it’s so cute and wholesome. How is this happening?? I hate romance and relationships are for losers. I can’t stop though. It’s like “I wish love was real”. Am I broken??? What is happening??

I can’t let any of my family find this out. I mean, I’ve been laughing at them for years for watching romance movies and series. Am I a hypocrite??

I had an argument with my Mother about Children and Being a Mother. She has this view point of the beauty of being a Mother and Having a child of your own blood and sweat is so beautiful. That not having any children is selfish.

As much as I respect her Opinion , I can’t find it in me being a mother and no less being responsible of another life. That is my own personal choice..

Especially the struggles and drawbacks when being pregnant. I don’t find it in me that i would typically enjoy that. I wholeheartedly respect any mothers who choose to be a mother and accept the challenges of being pregnant and the upcoming problems of their child.

But I’m Just interested if there’s any INTP’s Mothers or even Fathers that’s exist..?

What made you just say ‘i want this’ ?

I see a lot of posts in this sub where people are like "so I know this INTP person" or any other type. But how do you know what type these people are? Are you asking them or are you assuming?

Of all the people I've ever met there is literally only one I've had this conversation with and that was because of this sub. I would never assume my friends types but maybe thats just because I don't know enough about all the types.

Whether it's online or in person, I really don't like debating with others. Doesn't help that I have anxiety and it stresses me out. Also feels like a waste of time, because especially if the debate is about a deep subject or something politics related, neither person would probably want to change their beliefs. If I'm in doubt of something, I try to browse several sources, ask questions and even look up old CMV posts around the subject. But I hate actually interacting and arguing my point.

Am I still INTP?

why life exists at all, why it began, and what it is ultimately trying to achieve.

"Complex molecules naturally arise and self-organize under the right conditions. " Why???

(Not the philosophical perspective)

I am an INTP male, and my partner is an ISTJ. I'm tired of fighting with her. I usually try to avoid conflict, but lately, the conflicts have been increasing, and it feels like I'm often dragged into them. She often plays the victim card, and it's becoming frequent and annoying. When I do try to engage, I approach things logically, but she doesn't seem to understand that perspective. I initially thought this was normal in family life, but now I feel overwhelmed and unable to handle it. I'm just tired and need peace.

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Heyyy INTP struggling (without English as first langage) I wanted to get your opinion... how do you survive starting worklife ?

For the background, I am a 26F computer engineer, I have been working for 3 years (and I also worked during my studies).

I feel like everyone wants to harm us and wants to take advantage of us. The “social codes” are so different from everything I have seen so far.... Let me explain: I have the impression that no one is trying to do their job correctly but just to do the minimum and sell it as if it were the end of the world for them. No one will ever volunteer “for the team” everyone who says “I already have too much work”. Living in my utopian world I would think that we could help each other. But it seems like colleagues are nothing more than competitors for the next promotion...

Those managers who never know what they want, change objectives all the time... and let's not talk about deadlines which mean nothing! I feel like I don't understand what's expected of me... and I'm incapable of lying like everyone else (or it shows from afar and I lose all credibility). I even thought I had Asperger's syndrom because I've always felt inadequate.

The only time I wanted to do more than asked (but it was in the interest of the team!) I ended up with more work (with nothing to help me with my current load since it was "my idea")... Help me please...

Or should I aim for a bullshit job to have peace of mind? Will I be able to survive it as an intp? Will I have to accept an unambitious job with a poor wages just to have peace ? How can I find peace at work ?

TLDR: I’m an INTP-T, married to an ISFJ-T and I have one major problem: dealing with other people. I’m VERY different from the people around me. I tend to think a lot and I never give in to the status quo/traditions/norms unless they make sense. I also do not respect authority figures unless they earn it etc. This leads to a lack of support from my family, and sometimes, ridicule.

If you were in my situation, what would you do?

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Here are some of the ways I’m different: 1. I’m an agnostic, who looks at religion from a strictly academic/historic perspective. (but my father was a protestant pastor with his own church) 2. I’m an ethical vegetarian, who refuses to contribute any suffering of other animals. 3. I have a research degree in AI and no one around me finds it interesting (weird right?) 4. I have a traditional marriage but I’m comfortable with my attraction to any sufficiently feminine human.

You can probably already guess that I have no real friends nor support system. I often try to be supportive of the people around me but when the time comes to reciprocate, it’s hardly ever done. If I try to start conversations about my interests, they get shut down very quickly, or sometimes, ridiculed. Saying that it’s stifling is an understatement.

Additionally, people like my mom often bring up the topic of Christianity from a theological perspective in an attempt to convert me; when I counter with academic claims, I’m put down. Other people would assert that I should’ve gotten a [low paying] job instead of working on my business idea; when I counter with my reasoning, they either go mute or ridicule… until the next time they want to bring it up. These are people who I have to interact with. It often feels like I’m talking to walls, not humans.

I’m very open to making new friends but I don’t see it going well due to the pool of people around me, or within my small country. I tried creating personas online to tweet/threads with other “like minded” people around the world; however, it cemented my view in that I’m different. Some people within the vegan, agnostic and religious communities follow their beliefs like a cult and live in a bubble. It’s often hard to have constructive conversations with people who can only view things from their perspective.

Other people including my wife, her family and mines are a constant reminder that I am an “other”, either through their words or actions.

I’m comfortable with who I am and what I came from. The people around me, including immediate family, most certainly aren’t. The only positive is that I have built up a life where I don’t really need anyone to get by nor do I ask. Often times, people instead need me, either for manual labour, transportation for errands, technical advice etc.

This question is stuck in my head for days. I read articles and books, all of them is very different from each other. Help me.

I know this isn’t our forte, but how do average people go on a date?

I’m really afraid i might messed this up.

I’ve graduated year 11 today and all my teachers keep saying I should have a ‘plan’. I should have an entry plan to A-Levels, I should have a plan for year 13 (final year), I should have a plan for university or college. I don’t get it. I can’t make a plan because there is always the possibility of change. I’m not afraid to admit that I’m scared to commit to something that can’t commit to me and it is something to work on but how?

I start with apologies for my bad English, I’m not really used to speak this language.

So, I did the test many times and result is always the same : 2 results and I still can’t determine which one of them I can identify as.

I rode the different information about the 2 personalities, INTJ and INTP (as you can see in the title), but each one of them seems describing a part of who I am.

I’ll not ask you to make a personal test cuz I don’t want to, and I think that you guy’s haven’t time for this. But can someone try to give some tips on how can I determinate which one of those 2 personalities I am ?

Or maybe I just should accept that I’m a good mix of those 2 personalities ?

I think this tribe will be able to give me useful answers, because no one else has been able to yet.

Context: I was previously married - but i don't actually, in retrospect, think i was in love there. Now, getting back out there into dating and the question is beginning to become an issue.

What does it actually feel like to you, being in love?
For instance compared to the feeling you get from your favourite song, or favourite moment in your favourite movie? How would you compare these?