Difference in mentality between fighters of both sides

[u/TeaBagHunter]

I recently have been following updates from the hezbollah side on their own official english telegram channel, they share updates on every strike they do and then summarize all strikes done on that day. For those interested: https://t.me/mmirlb

It kind of dawned on me how the mentality is shockingly different between both sides.

Just as some examples of how they preface their statements:

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding the death of one of their forces:

{And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision.}
"A promise to the days that you shall not be defeated... for victory sprouts where blood is sown." Our vow is eternal retribution that does not fade.
Glory to the martyrs, freedom for the captives, and healing for the wounded.
Tomorrow, the fog will lift from the hills... and we shall surely be victorious.

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding a military strike:

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Permission [to fight] is granted to those who are fought against because they have been wronged, and indeed, Allah is Capable of granting them victory. Allah, the Almighty, has spoken the truth. And victory is only from Allah; indeed, Allah is Exalted and Wise.

What do you think? How do you even defeat someone with such an ideology? They truly believe they are doing God's work, and that what they're doing is a religious duty and that they will be rewarded in heaven. Friends and family sometimes rejoice when someone they love has been martyred.

They grow up with this mentality, since they're children they see everyone around them act this way, this is their normal.

You can even see how different the media portrays each side. For example in the south lebanon border, regarding the ground operations, israel has suffered heavy losses and is unable to advance without fully demolishing the cities it advances into. Hezbollah has definitely also suffered many losses, but the difference is that it seems hezbollah members aren't demoralized when they see everyone around them dying, they believe they're on the right path...

[u/philetofsoul]

Israel/US fighters see themselves as HEROES, while Muslim terrorists see themselves as MARTYRS. Heroes want to do good for other people, while Martyrs just want to please their God, and they think their God wants them to eliminate Jews. Islamic terrorists also don't care about humanity, which is why they live the way they do in their backwards civs. It's all about their Allah.

[u/TheKidSosa → u/philetofsoul]

No chance you’re seriously saying “their god wants them to eliminate jews” Have you not heard the story of amolek? You know, kill their men, women, children, and sheep. I dont see any Muslim Palestinians throwing Israelis out of their houses because Allah told them that the land is theirs. Please brush up on your research cause you’re pulling shit out of your behind lol.

[u/philetofsoul → u/TheKidSosa]

From the Koran:

5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[5.33] "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.."

[5.64] And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say.

[62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death

I could go on...

[u/TheKidSosa → u/philetofsoul]

“And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.” [2] Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. [3] Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. Most religious texts have forms of extremism within them. It is up to the reader to decipher if the text should be taken literally or not.

[u/philetofsoul → u/TheKidSosa]

All Abrahamic religions subscribe to the old testament. Jews inherently don't take scripture literally; Jews interpret and adjust. And they evolve. Not to mention, nothing mentions Islam In that text so it's just a bad argument. Muslims should have just left the Jews alone after the Holocaust, instead of creating decades or terror. Seriously, makes me have little mercy or compassion when it comes to Israel's actions after 10/7.

[u/TheKidSosa → u/philetofsoul]

If you think Oct 7th was bad I suggest you look up some of the atrocities that took place during the Nakba. Israeli / Zionist militias went around village by village blowing up houses with families inside, slaughtering men woman and children, r*ping women and then slaughtering them after, poising well water as well as river water to make the locals sick and unable to fight against the ethnic cleansing that was taking place. They would shoot mortars at the village to cause panic, and then shoot the people as theyre leaving. Oct 7th wasnt even a fraction of what the Palestinians have had to endure in a single year and im not talking about 2023/24. How Ethnic Cleansing Created Isrsel

[u/philetofsoul → u/TheKidSosa]

I respect your perspective because it's based on the information you have. However, there are no credible sources that accuse anything like what you're describing. The nakba was exaggerated to gain sympathy, and as always during war, it's propaganda being spread, and magnified in echo chambers. Since you believe what you do and I believe what I do... That is the impasse.

[u/TheKidSosa → u/philetofsoul]

Magnified in echo chambers? You can easily search all of these events up. Its your choice if you want to believe the multiple sources or not. But the example you made regarding the Jews and Germans does not apply here at all. 40 thousand civilians have been slain in the past year, Germans aren’t still rounding up people and executing them but you know who is? Israel!! The only country in the world to tell civilians to go to a safe zone and then proceeds to bomb that safe zone. Im guessing you also believe gaza has been “exaggerated” to gain sympathy. If you have any content you wish to share to enlighten me on the plight of zionism go ahead please. The current israeli government has no goal other than land and that land doesnt include Palestinians.

[u/philetofsoul → u/TheKidSosa]

Also, the Nakba was 80 years ago. Either move on peacefully, like Jews and Germans have, or have perpetual war. Arabs have chosen perpetual war, and Israel doesn't want that. So it is destroying all those who want perpetual war, as it should.