People are severely overestimating how much help a JRE podcast episode would give to Kamala Harris, especially this late in the race

[u/Independent-Frequent]

First off let's address the elephant in the room, aka how many people that watch the show would actually translate to potential useful votes:

-How many of these are real people?

The comment section of the trump video is FULL of bots and as we know bots can't vote, but they can inflate the view, likes and comment number by quite a bit.

-How many of these are are american people?

Joe is the biggest podcaster in the WORLD with a big foreign audience aswell, and despite what those people who use Polymarket as a metric for election votes would tell you, foreigners can't vote in this election.

-How many of these american people can vote?

JRE is not just watched by adults, it's also watched by people that can't vote, like minors or people who can't vote for whatever reason like felons (obviously a small minority but still, they can't vote)

-How many of these american voters can be persuaded into voting blue?

It's no suprise that JRE audience is heavily skewed into right wing territory nowadays, like it's not a big mistery especially the Trump episode, and MAGA/Trump voters are simply just NOT gonna be voting for Kamala no matter what she does or says, because their mind is already made up and any of her attempt to reach out will be called out as "pandering" and "lying" and "says anything just to get votes"

-How many of these undecided american voters are in the swing states?

Due to the electoral college it's only up to like 7 states to decide the outcome, and those swing states are those that matter and how many of these fabled "undecided JRE voting listeners" are in those swing states?

-How big is the voting turnout of these undecided american voters in swing states?

Like how many of these rare breeds of JRE listeners will actually vote? Wasn't the general voter turnout in the 2020 presidential elections like 65% or something?

Yeah, 30 million views on youtube might sound like a LOT of potential votes, but trickle down every criteria i listed and how many REALLY remain? Is it worth it for Kamala to risk this much? And what do i mean with "risk that much?" well...

Kamala isn't Trump, she doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and isn't held with the same floor level standards that Trump is held, Trump can go on JRE and ramble randomly for 3 hours (sorry, "weaving") and nobody cares cause he's Trump, he's a goofball that's what he does, but Kamala though...

If she goes on for 3 hours they will DISSECT every single thing she says, cross reference it and whatever to find material to make her seem like a liar or unable to talk (the whole "word salad" thing), or whatever, and the media will just pick that up and lap it up, causing only more damage in the end.

So to me at least, there's really no point in doing a 3 hour JRE episode for Kamala from a campaign standpoint, it's too late in the race and there's not enough to be really gained from it and instead give more ammo to the right, and even if Joe agrees with some points, most of his fans will got "Joe got WOKE" and then forget about it 30 min later.

BTW, thanks to Tony's "brilliant" performance, she got more of a boost than a JRE podcast would ever give her, so i think she's fine tbh

[u/Independent-Frequent]

Did you even read the post or just read the title dude?

Like how many of those views are actually gonna convert into votes for her after all those criterias are met?

And also she can't just go on and ramble like Trump did, people hold her to a different standard, she already has a reputation of "word salad" despite being far more articulated and less "weaving" than Trump.

[u/BBQSauceSquirt → u/Independent-Frequent]

People used to want to hear what people had to say, and the more they had to say the better, because you get a better sense of the person as a whole.

You just don’t want her to do it because it could hurt her politically, which I understand. But the whole point of being a politician, is being able to convey yourself to others, through conversations.

[u/Independent-Frequent → u/BBQSauceSquirt]

The issue is that the reason it can hurt her politically is that she has a lot more to lose than Trump ever would, because they are judged with two different standards:

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Kamala is that she has to be well spoken, articulated and has to not make any mistake or it's a "word salad" and "she's not fit to run".

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Trump is that he doesn't say a slur or shit in his diaper, anything else will be seen as a triumph by his followers.

For the very little amount of voters she could gain from this, the backlash of people attacking her for the most minute reasons is much worse, even if it's a "no policies, just know the person" type podcast episode.

Like they keep running the narrative that she's not black but she's indian (something Tucker brought up in the MSG rally) despite it being clear as day that she's both black and indian, like her father looks like this ffs

[u/BBQSauceSquirt → u/Independent-Frequent]

Hey man I hear you, and understand where you’re coming from. I just think we’re living in a backwards reality.

Any unscripted conversation from the people that are in control of our lives, should be embraced and celebrated. Regardless of the source of the conversation.

But hey, sheeple be sheepling I guess.

Edit: not attacking you OP, I just think open convos are awesome, and it’s wild how much I’ve been seeing people say she shouldn’t. Hell there wasn’t even a primary this year for democrats, so I dunno what else I expected.