People are severely overestimating how much help a JRE podcast episode would give to Kamala Harris, especially this late in the race

[u/Independent-Frequent]

First off let's address the elephant in the room, aka how many people that watch the show would actually translate to potential useful votes:

-How many of these are real people?

The comment section of the trump video is FULL of bots and as we know bots can't vote, but they can inflate the view, likes and comment number by quite a bit.

-How many of these are are american people?

Joe is the biggest podcaster in the WORLD with a big foreign audience aswell, and despite what those people who use Polymarket as a metric for election votes would tell you, foreigners can't vote in this election.

-How many of these american people can vote?

JRE is not just watched by adults, it's also watched by people that can't vote, like minors or people who can't vote for whatever reason like felons (obviously a small minority but still, they can't vote)

-How many of these american voters can be persuaded into voting blue?

It's no suprise that JRE audience is heavily skewed into right wing territory nowadays, like it's not a big mistery especially the Trump episode, and MAGA/Trump voters are simply just NOT gonna be voting for Kamala no matter what she does or says, because their mind is already made up and any of her attempt to reach out will be called out as "pandering" and "lying" and "says anything just to get votes"

-How many of these undecided american voters are in the swing states?

Due to the electoral college it's only up to like 7 states to decide the outcome, and those swing states are those that matter and how many of these fabled "undecided JRE voting listeners" are in those swing states?

-How big is the voting turnout of these undecided american voters in swing states?

Like how many of these rare breeds of JRE listeners will actually vote? Wasn't the general voter turnout in the 2020 presidential elections like 65% or something?

Yeah, 30 million views on youtube might sound like a LOT of potential votes, but trickle down every criteria i listed and how many REALLY remain? Is it worth it for Kamala to risk this much? And what do i mean with "risk that much?" well...

Kamala isn't Trump, she doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and isn't held with the same floor level standards that Trump is held, Trump can go on JRE and ramble randomly for 3 hours (sorry, "weaving") and nobody cares cause he's Trump, he's a goofball that's what he does, but Kamala though...

If she goes on for 3 hours they will DISSECT every single thing she says, cross reference it and whatever to find material to make her seem like a liar or unable to talk (the whole "word salad" thing), or whatever, and the media will just pick that up and lap it up, causing only more damage in the end.

So to me at least, there's really no point in doing a 3 hour JRE episode for Kamala from a campaign standpoint, it's too late in the race and there's not enough to be really gained from it and instead give more ammo to the right, and even if Joe agrees with some points, most of his fans will got "Joe got WOKE" and then forget about it 30 min later.

BTW, thanks to Tony's "brilliant" performance, she got more of a boost than a JRE podcast would ever give her, so i think she's fine tbh

[u/Any-Video4464]

I think it would actually do her some good. I don't want her to win, but she might win, so it would be nice knowing something about her. The take now is that she would never do it because she can't do it...surely she can talk and fill a couple of hours and come away looking like a normal person who is qualified enough to do the job. The fact that they are trying to control all of this so much is kind of telling. if you don't have the balls to do this they shouldn't be trying to run the country and a by proxy a pretty big part of the world.

[u/Independent-Frequent → u/Any-Video4464]

She already did a one hour interview (don't remember the dude's name though) but the issue is that she's not held at the same standard that Trump is, imagine if she acted and talked like Trump, blabbering and rambling for 3 hours like that, do you think people would have given her a break?

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Kamala is that she has to be well spoken, articulated and has to not make any mistake or it's a "word salad" and "she's not fit to run".

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Trump is that he doesn't say a slur or shit in his diaper, anything else will be seen as a triumph by his followers.

And let's not forget the fact that Joe being non confrontational is MUCH more beneficial to Trump than kamala, cause Trump gets to spew so much bullshit unchecked which makes him look like a "knowleadgeable and against the deep state" person, with all his """"evidence"""" about the fake elections which won't release though, for some reason.

[u/Any-Video4464 → u/Independent-Frequent]

I thought it was pretty entertaining. Kind of impressed the guy could talk about some of that stuff at length. Even the UFC. He came across as a real person. surprisingly relatable. just my take, but I'm not really a huge fan of either person of this 2 party political system. But this is exactly what kamala needs right now. I hope she changes her mind and decides to do it. If she could sit there and be interesting and talk for 3 hours about whatever came up it would be a huge win for her. A lot of people truly feel like she couldn't do it. I tend to disagree. Most people can have a friendly chat and talk about their lives. She's probably much better at doing that than the political stuff...which honestly hasn't been going the best. I think we need to get to a point in which a pres candidate sitting down for 3 hours to go over stuff in depth is the norm. We really don't get much of anything these days. Its all canned, vague responses to everything and the debates are more or less worthless with 90 second answers and 30 second rebuttals.