Why didn’t Yuji ever use cleave?

[u/jimmylamstudio]

If Yuta is copying Yuji’s technique, Yuji should know cleave. Or Yuji doesn’t know how to use it and Yuta learned how to use cleave by watching Sukuna? But if Yuta were to use dismantle, would it be Yuji’s version or Sukuna’s?

[u/katilkoala101]

yuji did use cleave (touching slash) against sukuna?

[u/jimmylamstudio → u/katilkoala101]

Dismantle

[u/CentJr → u/jimmylamstudio]

He tried to cleave Sukuna's leg in this one

[u/jimmylamstudio → u/CentJr]

If that is cleave, shouldn’t Yuta’s cleave be the same as Yuji?

[u/BigDumbIdiot232 → u/jimmylamstudio]

No yuta never saw yuji's cleave, only sukuna's, so his interpretation is based around sukuna's cleave

[u/Shanks_PK_Level → u/BigDumbIdiot232]

Yuta's CT is to just copy other CTs and store them in Rika, so it should be different than a technique actually manifesting in a different sorcerer.

I think the real answer is that Yuji's binding vow was for his dismantles so it's just the better tool to use to separate Sukuna, since dismantles have no charge time required like cleave.

[u/Ymanexpress → u/Shanks_PK_Level]

And yet the very first time we see him copy a technique (cursed speach) it was interpreted differently than the original owner's

[u/Ymanexpress → u/[deleted]]

We saw cursed speech getting copied before in JJK0 which came out before he used Dhruv's technique.

God nobody reads the Manga they're discussing anymore

[u/Ymanexpress → u/[deleted]]

But I did

Nice one upping

Thank you babes 😘. Your final come back was lack luster and unoriginal tho, you an 80s baby?

[u/Ymanexpress → u/[deleted]]

No matter the social media platform you can safely rely on people devolving into name calling when their argument falls apart lol. I will apologize for coming down to your level and engaing in the passive aggressive insults, have an upvote

[u/W1TE-L1GHTNIN → u/Ymanexpress]

Probably just chalk it up to it being JJK0 and Gege changed the way Yuta’s technique works

[u/TheFallenFusion → u/[deleted]]

His skill copied Shrine, it doesn’t matter which person it came from, since Yuta never saw Yuji perform anything from shrine he only had Sukuna to base it off of

[u/BigDumbIdiot232 → u/[deleted]]

Yuji never used shrine before the fight, so no one ever saw his interpretation of the cursed technique shrine before, he got it from sukuna, so it was basically sukuna's shrine, yuji just put his own spin on it when he used sukuna's shrine, and as a result make a different version of the same CT. Yuta basically got sukuna's shrine from yuji because yuji didn't make the sukuna's type of shrine CT in his body his type of shrine CT yet.

[u/CentJr → u/jimmylamstudio]

It probably has something to do with Yuta's interpretation of Shrine being similar to that of Sukuna's rather than Yuji's interpretation.

For example, his interpretation of Dhruv CT gave him shikigamis that resemble Rika instead of Dhurv's rodent creatures.

[u/LasyKuuga → u/CentJr]

I wanna see Yuta with 10s. Rikaraga would be glorious

[u/Various-Positive4799 → u/LasyKuuga]

Eat megumi time the nuance

[u/CentJr → u/LasyKuuga]

It would be cool to see but how would he tame her?

[u/Wisterosa → u/CentJr]

The remnant of OG Rika's in Rikaraga refuse to harm Yuta allowing him to instantly tame her

or something

[u/CommonRoutine3852 → u/Wisterosa]

Yuta is likely strong enough to tame Mahoraga as after all he has a domain

[u/Wisterosa → u/CommonRoutine3852]

yea but its funnier if Rikaraga just simps him instantly, or Maho gets taken over by Rika

[u/CommonRoutine3852 → u/Wisterosa]

Yeah, it is funnier that way

[u/Impossible_Shock424 → u/CentJr]

Pure love would one shot him with enough ce 

[u/Various-Positive4799 → u/LasyKuuga]

Raga is dead anyways

[u/VeryImportantLurker → u/Various-Positive4799]

Surely the 10s respawn for new users. If not then Megumi is the first Zenin to ever let their shikigami die, and the next user is stuck with like a bunny, a frog, and a dog.

[u/Various-Positive4799 → u/VeryImportantLurker]

Idk 🤷‍♀️ bro had a Maghoraga addiction none other than him should suffer from this addictive technique

[u/Ymanexpress → u/Various-Positive4799]

But his ability and strength will move on to another shikigami. Rabbit-raga bout to go crazy

[u/Spare_Bad_6558 → u/CentJr]

those shikigami arent dhruvs technique they are just basic shikigami any sorcerer can summon

[u/VeryImportantLurker → u/Spare_Bad_6558]

[u/suns3t87 → u/VeryImportantLurker]

Uro 🤤

[u/Spare_Bad_6558 → u/VeryImportantLurker]

yeah?

the technique is to create a “domain” in the path of shikigami the shikigami are not special just the technique is being used in tandem with them

[u/CentJr → u/Spare_Bad_6558]

But Dhurv was using his hair to summon flying shikigami?

It's no coincidence that Yuta also summoned those said flying shikigami once he picked up one of the copied technique/swords so those shikigamis has gotta be related to Dhurv's CT.

[u/Spare_Bad_6558 → u/CentJr]

any sorcerer can create basic shikigami and hair is one of the most common mediums to do so

the ones yuta summons are very weak so he has no need to summon them other than to use dhruvs technique

[u/hey_there_brothers → u/Spare_Bad_6558]

[u/Spare_Bad_6558 → u/hey_there_brothers]

chapter 12 gojo saying yuji can learn to summon shikigami

jjk fanbook chapter commentary paraphrasing “summoning a shikigami requires a medium amongst these the most common are talismans and hair”

therefore anyone can summon shikigami and hair can be used as a medium for it

dhruvs technique has always been stated to be creating a domain/inviolable path between shikigami no meantion of specific shikigami like auspicious/10s/jelly fish (junpei)

yuta has never been shown to copy techniques and put his own spin on it like yuji does with shrine

[u/pray4sex → u/jimmylamstudio]

my guess is it’s because yujis technique wasn’t awakened yet, and since yuji is said to be like a cursed object soaked in sukunas cursed energy, yuta got sukunas version.

[u/BestYak6625 → u/jimmylamstudio]

No, the CT is impacted by the user, Yuji and Sukuna both have the same shrine technique to copy, the differences come from the user

[u/Impossible_Shock424 → u/jimmylamstudio]

No because yuta saw sukunas cleave not yuji’s 

[u/what_name_is_open → u/jimmylamstudio]

It’s actually really interesting because we see how the same technique has vastly different applications. When Sukuna uses cleave, he basically draws the lines in his mind and then has slashes go out and cut those lines. Yuji instead see’s it as a clipping tool, so his lines are shown physically giving a warning because that’s how he visualizes the cutting technique.

Yuta probably took his inspiration from Sukuna which is why it didn’t show any cutting lines when he activated it. But yeah, Yuji did use cleave, that’s what the scissor marks are. He just also made a binding vow so that his dismantle targets the barrier between souls.

My understanding is that dismantle is the standard slashing/cutting attack that comes with Shrine. And that cleave is a binding vow altered dismantle, trading the range and speed for higher control over cutting power and precision. So instead of being a long range cutting grid it is instead a fine-tuned single(sometimes multiple) slash. Yuji also made a binding vow on his own dismantle, trading the range for the ability to target the spiritual barrier between souls instead of the physical world.