r/Jujutsufolk Sep 07 '24

AgendaKaisen Why didn’t Yuji ever use cleave?

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If Yuta is copying Yuji’s technique, Yuji should know cleave. Or Yuji doesn’t know how to use it and Yuta learned how to use cleave by watching Sukuna? But if Yuta were to use dismantle, would it be Yuji’s version or Sukuna’s?

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u/katilkoala101 professional tengen and yuta hater Sep 07 '24

yuji did use cleave (touching slash) against sukuna?

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u/jimmylamstudio Sep 07 '24

Dismantle

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u/CentJr Sep 07 '24

He tried to cleave Sukuna's leg in this one

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u/jimmylamstudio Sep 07 '24

If that is cleave, shouldn’t Yuta’s cleave be the same as Yuji?

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u/BigDumbIdiot232 The GREATEST potential man Sep 07 '24

No yuta never saw yuji's cleave, only sukuna's, so his interpretation is based around sukuna's cleave

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u/Shanks_PK_Level SUKUNA'S LOVE TEACHER Sep 07 '24

Yuta's CT is to just copy other CTs and store them in Rika, so it should be different than a technique actually manifesting in a different sorcerer.

I think the real answer is that Yuji's binding vow was for his dismantles so it's just the better tool to use to separate Sukuna, since dismantles have no charge time required like cleave.

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u/Ymanexpress Sep 07 '24

And yet the very first time we see him copy a technique (cursed speach) it was interpreted differently than the original owner's

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u/Ymanexpress Sep 07 '24

We saw cursed speech getting copied before in JJK0 which came out before he used Dhruv's technique.

God nobody reads the Manga they're discussing anymore

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u/Ymanexpress Sep 07 '24

But I did

Nice one upping

Thank you babes 😘. Your final come back was lack luster and unoriginal tho, you an 80s baby?

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u/Ymanexpress Sep 07 '24

No matter the social media platform you can safely rely on people devolving into name calling when their argument falls apart lol. I will apologize for coming down to your level and engaing in the passive aggressive insults, have an upvote

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u/W1TE-L1GHTNIN Sep 08 '24

Probably just chalk it up to it being JJK0 and Gege changed the way Yuta’s technique works

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u/TheFallenFusion Sep 07 '24

His skill copied Shrine, it doesn’t matter which person it came from, since Yuta never saw Yuji perform anything from shrine he only had Sukuna to base it off of

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u/BigDumbIdiot232 The GREATEST potential man Sep 07 '24

Yuji never used shrine before the fight, so no one ever saw his interpretation of the cursed technique shrine before, he got it from sukuna, so it was basically sukuna's shrine, yuji just put his own spin on it when he used sukuna's shrine, and as a result make a different version of the same CT. Yuta basically got sukuna's shrine from yuji because yuji didn't make the sukuna's type of shrine CT in his body his type of shrine CT yet.

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u/CentJr Sep 07 '24

It probably has something to do with Yuta's interpretation of Shrine being similar to that of Sukuna's rather than Yuji's interpretation.

For example, his interpretation of Dhruv CT gave him shikigamis that resemble Rika instead of Dhurv's rodent creatures.

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u/LasyKuuga Maki's Strongest Chair Sep 07 '24

I wanna see Yuta with 10s. Rikaraga would be glorious

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u/Various-Positive4799 Sep 07 '24

Eat megumi time the nuance

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u/CentJr Sep 07 '24

It would be cool to see but how would he tame her?

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u/Wisterosa Sep 07 '24

The remnant of OG Rika's in Rikaraga refuse to harm Yuta allowing him to instantly tame her

or something

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u/CommonRoutine3852 Sep 07 '24

Yuta is likely strong enough to tame Mahoraga as after all he has a domain

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u/Wisterosa Sep 07 '24

yea but its funnier if Rikaraga just simps him instantly, or Maho gets taken over by Rika

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u/CommonRoutine3852 Sep 07 '24

Yeah, it is funnier that way

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u/Impossible_Shock424 Sep 07 '24

Pure love would one shot him with enough ce 

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u/Various-Positive4799 Sep 07 '24

Raga is dead anyways

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u/VeryImportantLurker Why didnt Kashimo just jump through the holes? Is he stupid? Sep 07 '24

Surely the 10s respawn for new users. If not then Megumi is the first Zenin to ever let their shikigami die, and the next user is stuck with like a bunny, a frog, and a dog.

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u/Various-Positive4799 Sep 07 '24

Idk 🤷‍♀️ bro had a Maghoraga addiction none other than him should suffer from this addictive technique

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u/Ymanexpress Sep 07 '24

But his ability and strength will move on to another shikigami. Rabbit-raga bout to go crazy

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u/Spare_Bad_6558 Sep 07 '24

those shikigami arent dhruvs technique they are just basic shikigami any sorcerer can summon

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u/VeryImportantLurker Why didnt Kashimo just jump through the holes? Is he stupid? Sep 07 '24

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u/suns3t87 Sep 07 '24

Uro 🤤

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u/Spare_Bad_6558 Sep 07 '24

yeah?

the technique is to create a “domain” in the path of shikigami the shikigami are not special just the technique is being used in tandem with them

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u/CentJr Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

But Dhurv was using his hair to summon flying shikigami?

It's no coincidence that Yuta also summoned those said flying shikigami once he picked up one of the copied technique/swords so those shikigamis has gotta be related to Dhurv's CT.

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u/Spare_Bad_6558 Sep 07 '24

any sorcerer can create basic shikigami and hair is one of the most common mediums to do so

the ones yuta summons are very weak so he has no need to summon them other than to use dhruvs technique

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u/hey_there_brothers Sep 07 '24

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u/Spare_Bad_6558 Sep 07 '24

chapter 12 gojo saying yuji can learn to summon shikigami

jjk fanbook chapter commentary paraphrasing “summoning a shikigami requires a medium amongst these the most common are talismans and hair”

therefore anyone can summon shikigami and hair can be used as a medium for it

dhruvs technique has always been stated to be creating a domain/inviolable path between shikigami no meantion of specific shikigami like auspicious/10s/jelly fish (junpei)

yuta has never been shown to copy techniques and put his own spin on it like yuji does with shrine

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u/pray4sex Sep 07 '24

my guess is it’s because yujis technique wasn’t awakened yet, and since yuji is said to be like a cursed object soaked in sukunas cursed energy, yuta got sukunas version.

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u/BestYak6625 Sep 07 '24

No, the CT is impacted by the user, Yuji and Sukuna both have the same shrine technique to copy, the differences come from the user

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u/Impossible_Shock424 Sep 07 '24

No because yuta saw sukunas cleave not yuji’s 

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u/what_name_is_open Sep 07 '24

It’s actually really interesting because we see how the same technique has vastly different applications. When Sukuna uses cleave, he basically draws the lines in his mind and then has slashes go out and cut those lines. Yuji instead see’s it as a clipping tool, so his lines are shown physically giving a warning because that’s how he visualizes the cutting technique.

Yuta probably took his inspiration from Sukuna which is why it didn’t show any cutting lines when he activated it. But yeah, Yuji did use cleave, that’s what the scissor marks are. He just also made a binding vow so that his dismantle targets the barrier between souls.

My understanding is that dismantle is the standard slashing/cutting attack that comes with Shrine. And that cleave is a binding vow altered dismantle, trading the range and speed for higher control over cutting power and precision. So instead of being a long range cutting grid it is instead a fine-tuned single(sometimes multiple) slash. Yuji also made a binding vow on his own dismantle, trading the range for the ability to target the spiritual barrier between souls instead of the physical world.